See , this is my point....if I was a breeder or a yorkie owner and wanted to find a good home for a dog it wouldnt be about money...but the quality of the person who cares for the pup.....a person that would sacrifice their lives for the dog, forgoing anything for the well being of pup...

I canot speak for anyone besides myself however
1. I would NEVER pay that much money for a dog that is not of breeding quality. Regaurdless of size. I find it very interesting that you, who is often lashing out at people for not breeding to breed standards has voiced so much in defense of this person.
2. Tinees of this size do have more problems than the average yorkie, yes some average yorkies have health issues, and some tinees are as strong as an ox, but for the most part all of us have been aware of more heath problems for dogs that are breed to small.
3. Unless any of us know this person directly we do not know her circumstance or why she is selling a yorkie for 8500. She may have the vet bills to show for him, however to me this would only indicate a larger reason to lower his price as someone could pay his vet bills better if they didnt have to shell out 7000 more than the average dog.
4. To look at the sizes of the parents as stated by her this dog was absolutly breed for size, something before you found shamefull
5. I can use my 4.5 lb yorkie and carry her with me everywhere, if they cannot lift four pounds I seriously doubt they could care for themselves, let alone a dog without someone else to help them. Meaning that this is a perfect size for service is also stupid. To use this little guy for service and carry him around everywhere would likey endanger his heath even more.

I also know that I would pay any expense for a vet nessasary for my animals. I have done so in the past and will continue to do so. To me you sound overly defensive and down right rude to people that are expressing only an oppinion. To say that only people who would spend 8500 dollars will get the care he needs is ludicurious, they are just as likey to say put him down as the owner who only paid 500, becasue at some point if they are going to cut their losses, nothing will deture them. For me, the price of care doesnt matter, I have always put it out, but I know several who paid far more for a dog, and a vet bill of 500 helped them to decided the dog wasnt worth the trouble and went ahead and put it to sleep, where another spent thousands on a mutt, because she loved her.

There are so many more things I would like to say about this post. At this point I think I have said my peace. For anyone else that will decide to post based on another member's copious posts defending this seller, please realize that this member revolves around the controversy attention she gains in threads like this.

Pls stop her by not continuing to quote her or respond to her baiting posts.
Thanks :thumbup:

For those questioning an open fontenalle, I found this online at http://www.gotoasheville.com/Article...rticles_4.html

5. Open fontanelle. Some puppies, especially breeds with very high, "domed" foreheads (like chihuahuas, pekingese, lhasa apsos, and yorkies), have an incomplete closure of the bones in their skull. This area, called an open fontanelle, is a soft spot in the center of the puppy's forehead. Some fontanelles close with time, or become smaller. Most cause no problems, but sometimes a large fontanelle indicates that the puppy is prone to developing hydrocephalus.


http://www.upei.ca/~cidd/Diseases/ne...rocephalus.htm
What does hydrocephalus mean to your dog & you?

Puppies with severe hydrocephalus often die at a very early age due to pressure from the increased fluid in the brain. In other less severely affected pups, the signs gradually become apparent over the first few months of life, and in some mild cases the condition is only diagnosed later in life.

The types of signs seen with this condition include unthriftiness (smaller than littermates, slow to grow), a domed skull (which gradually becomes more pronounced), abnormal movement behaviours (restlessness, aimless walking), problems with vision, and seizures. These pups are very slow to learn - it may be extremely difficult to housetrain them for example.

Generally the signs gradually worsen, although by 2 years of age they may stabilize. To minimize brain damage, the condition must be recognized and appropriate treatment begun early. However, affected animals will likely always be slow and have a limited ability to learn.

Purchasing a pup, for any cost, I would not want to purposely increase my chances of having to deal with the death of my pet due to hydrocephalus. Do you choose to live next to an asbestos plant knowing it causes cancer?

Wow !!! I take my hat off to you.
:good job:
Thanks for this information. As I did about my Lily's Emergency C-Section last week.
I knew what an open fontanelle is.
I didn't know what the side effects are. Poor puppy.
Sounds like there is a great possibility of high medical bills.

WOW!! You guys make some pretty outrageous assumptions sometimes!! Just to clarify....I NEVER PERSONALLY BID ON A YORKIE!!!! I knew of the bidding from the breeders telling me. The first was a teeny tiny "field mouse" the breeder had when I got Hefner last December. The dog was already sold when I went to look at Hefner and I wanted a male anyway. A teenager tried to get the breeder to sell it to her by offering her more and she was a good breeder and refused because she knew she couldn't care for her.

The second was a puppy that the breeder showed me when I was looking for Ava but she already had two people interested and she later told me when I talked to her what she decided to do which was to sell her to a previous customer/friend instead of the one who offered her the most money.

The last was a puppy advertised on Puppyfind and it was offered at $10,000 on Puppyfind but when I called she had been offered $12,000 but had decided to keep it instead.

Good luck in selling him! This breed is so cute! I know that I could never afford him, but somewhere someone will.

Uhmmm, I just want to say I think he is a doll. Is he still for sale? I would love to meet you and see him and his parents. If you have all his vet records and vets address and #. That would be great. You can e-mail me to talk and ask any ? you have for me. My e-mail

I have not read all the post so please don't flame me for being interested in this cute little guy...

And I found this: (A molera is another word for open fontanelle) here is the ink for anyone who wants to read the entire article: http://www.prouxchihuahuas.com/id15.html

Unfortunately, many lay people (and some Veterinarians not familiar with the Chihuahua) have tried to link the mere presence of a molera with the condition known as hydrocephalus. This has caused many new comers to the breed serious concern and undo worry. The truth is that a domed head with a molera present does not predispose the dog to this condition.
Along with the observations of devoted breeders over the years, there is adequate medical evidence to support this statement:

* In "Diseases of the Brain"(1989), Green & Braund stated that many clinically normal toy breeds may have open fontanelles without associated hydrocephalus.

* Drs. Walters and Rivers, Veterinarians at the University of Minnesota, concluded that there did not appear to be any relationship between the presence or size of a fontanelle and the condition of hydrocephalus.

* Dr. Alexander de Lahunta of Cornell University in New York, one of the top neurologist in this country, stated that it would be wrong to conclude that any opening is abnormal.

While it would be impossible to list all the medical documentation in this paper, these few included here are perfectly clear: the presence of a molera does not mean the dog has a medical problem.

This is more in line with what my experience has been with small dogs like chis and yorkies who have soft spots. I don't think this breeder would sell this dog if her vet thought the soft spot was a potential problem. JMHO

Tricia-i don't think anyone is going to flame you! :D you're right, he is cute. good luck!

Oh Tricia~ That would be so cool if you got him!! I think he is just so sweet and, despite what others have said, I think he looks well cared for...he just has a lot of coat. The fact that he is dark is not that unusual. There are lots of dark yorkies on here in fact. Good luck!! I :thumbup: hope she comes back and gets your message.

Tricia I agree He is adorable.

I am going to PM her also, I really do think he is cute. I hope he hasn't sold yet. I just showed my husband his pic and price. He almost cried ($$$$ :cry:)

I had a yorkie that was 2lbs 8 oz til she hit about 10 or 11 then she turned into a little butter ball. When she passed she was 3lbs 5oz. The vet joked alot about her being chunky the last couple years of her life. She did have several health issues when she was very young but by the time she was 2 1/2 she was fine. I realize the time, care, and money, but I can't help it he is so cute...