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phfgkl 04-19-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson (Post 2584648)
I'm not saying that chocolates should be show dogs, but that doesn't mean they can't be bred. A lot of people I've met with have preferred the chocolate over the standard. I don't appreciate you saying the Jasper has a "fault." He's original, but you don't have to look down on him. He is beautiful, healthy, and spunky and I would rather go with a professional's advice than listen to someon else's opinion and criticism anout my Jasper. The ONLY other chocolate yorkie (which is NOT a biewer, by the way) that I have seen for sale lately is going for $3000 because she is bigger, so I don't think you could say they're common. If someone wanted a dog that would stand out and be oggled over, my chocolate yorkie is one of the better choices.

There are a lot of chocolate yorkies out there. I didn't say he's not cute, but, go to American Kennel Club - akc.org read up on chocolate yorkies. And your'e right, chocolate yorkies are not biewers, biewers are their own breed. They are more common than you'd realize. Chocolates are a fault and shouldn't be bred. So breeding them is not bettering the breed. I'm sorry, I don't think anyone doesn't think your dog isn't cute, but, not $4000 cute. Sorry!

txrosegirl 04-19-2009 11:17 AM

your baby is adorable and when people say "fault" they do not mean anything derogatory by it. it is just that the AKC and the YTCA has a standard for yorkies and this color mutation is indeed a "fault". but no one is saying your pup is not cute or a lesser yorkie than theirs. they are just pointing out he falls outside the standard and usually pups outside the standard are sold for less, not more

but my question is, i was curious as to why this pup is 6months old and only has 1 set of shots? :confused: if you plan on charging this amount, i think the pups should have all shots and be neutered before going to his forever home

i do wish you luck placing this baby. he is a cutie :)

mypreciouspups 04-19-2009 11:36 AM

I think choc yorkies are beautiful... would I pay that price for a pet.. NO I would not.. I breed and I could not even imagiine at this age that all the shots were not already given.. number one on a breeder doing this for the dollars.. spend the money on your babies.. and if you are serious and want a good home then set the price acordingly... and by the way yes there are people with that kind of money.. this does not make them the best parents.. I sell my puppies.. have one litter a year.. I have yet to cover my cost..as puppy, the home and new parents are number one..
Please Please do not insult us on this yorkie forum by placing an add like this..
Enough said!!!!!

anne

yorkie_mama22 04-19-2009 12:07 PM

He definitely is very adorable!! I have seen one for sale before around here and was not close to that price. That price is ridiculous! I see people sell TINY "TEACUP" standard yorkies for cheaper. Even if he is "rare" in color he still is not accepted by the AKC. I think any of us would be happy to own such a cutie but please don't take the comments offensive, everyone is stating the truth and the truth is you can't charge top dollar. It is also very misleading if you are calling him a rare yorkie because some uneducated person will sadly fall for your ad and perhaps be out FOUR THOUSAND HARD EARNED DOLLARS because they "believe" they have a super rare yorkie :(

phfgkl 04-19-2009 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson (Post 2584669)
For any information you might want to know about Chocolate yorkies, here is a site that might help with some disclaimers. Chocolate Yorkshire Terrier | Chocolate Yorkie | Yorkshire Terriers | Yorkies

This is from a lady that breeds the chocolate, she also breeds teacup yorkies, which is not a real good term to use, as there is no such thing.

Sugar's Mom 04-19-2009 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mypreciouspups (Post 2584926)
I think choc yorkies are beautiful... would I pay that price for a pet.. NO I would not.. I breed and I could not even imagiine at this age that all the shots were not already given.. number one on a breeder doing this for the dollars.. spend the money on your babies.. and if you are serious and want a good home then set the price acordingly... and by the way yes there are people with that kind of money.. this does not make them the best parents.. I sell my puppies.. have one litter a year.. I have yet to cover my cost..as puppy, the home and new parents are number one..
Please Please do not insult us on this yorkie forum by placing an add like this..
Enough said!!!!!

anne

i agree with you, Anne. Ads like this give us ethical, caring breeders a bad name because people think we are all the same. heck, I am fixing to breed my dark UKC champion and I was only going to ask a fraction of that for her babies even with the awesome pedigree she has. Do I like chocolates? yes, I do as far as thinking they are pretty but I would never bring one into my house as long as I am a breeder. I would hate for an accident to happen and me have a bunch of little chocolates running around. i feel that this person has just put herself in the same category as Jeff Dane. The big famous puppy miller that gets thousands and thousands of dollars playing on peole's heartstrings and putting dogs out there that he tells people are rare. And to the original poster, you may not want to hear our opinion, but there are some very very experienced breeders on here that have probably whelped more puppies than any of the people you mentioned. most vets don't have a clue about these kinds of puppies, or even the toy breed for that matter. some groomers don't know one breed from the other. Some call yorkies, silky's. Whole different breed. And any breeder that tells you to price this puppy that high is just as greedy as you are.

Yorkieville200 04-19-2009 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jefferson (Post 2584648)
I'm not saying that chocolates should be show dogs, but that doesn't mean they can't be bred. A lot of people I've met with have preferred the chocolate over the standard. I don't appreciate you saying the Jasper has a "fault." He's original, but you don't have to look down on him. He is beautiful, healthy, and spunky and I would rather go with a professional's advice than listen to someon else's opinion and criticism anout my Jasper. The ONLY other chocolate yorkie (which is NOT a biewer, by the way) that I have seen for sale lately is going for $3000 because she is bigger, so I don't think you could say they're common. If someone wanted a dog that would stand out and be oggled over, my chocolate yorkie is one of the better choices.


No one is looking down on your dog. You, yourself, admitted in post #5, he has a genetic defect. However, to say, "if someone wanted a dog that would stand out and be ogled over, my chocolate yorkie is one of the better choices".

You couldn't be more wrong! Oh, yes, he would stand out. People would assume he is a mix.

If you want to know the Yorkies that stand out, and people ogle over; they're the one's like my girls, that come from breeders that show and win.

I can't take them anywhere without half a dozen people gathering around to ooh and aww over them.

Showing in confirmation, is just that; confirming that your dogs are breed worthy.

He's cute. All puppies are cute, but he's not $4,000. cute. More like $400.00, if you're lucky.

And if you think having money means a person will provide a good home, think again. To many people $4,000. is like $400.00 to the average person, and I know for a fact, some very expensive Yorkies have been dumped in rescues when their owners tired of them.

YorkieGeorge 04-19-2009 01:40 PM

He is a cutie.wish you best looking for a good home for him:D

MinMuf1 04-19-2009 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mypreciouspups (Post 2584926)
I think choc yorkies are beautiful... would I pay that price for a pet.. NO I would not.. I breed and I could not even imagiine at this age that all the shots were not already given.. number one on a breeder doing this for the dollars.. spend the money on your babies.. and if you are serious and want a good home then set the price acordingly... and by the way yes there are people with that kind of money.. this does not make them the best parents.. I sell my puppies.. have one litter a year.. I have yet to cover my cost..as puppy, the home and new parents are number one..
Please Please do not insult us on this yorkie forum by placing an add like this..
Enough said!!!!!

anne

:yeahthat: If you just have to get rid of this little guy so badly, why didn't you contact the Breeder that you originally got him from rather than attempting re-homing yourself? I would hope that s/he had right of first contact written in their adoption contract prior to placing him with you...

phfgkl 04-19-2009 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MinMuf1 (Post 2585121)
:yeahthat: If you just have to get rid of this little guy so badly, why didn't you contact the Breeder that you originally got him from rather than attempting re-homing yourself? I would hope that s/he had right of first contact written in their adoption contract prior to placing him with you...

I assumed maybe this was one of her dogs pups. to the op, if you bought this little pup from someone else, I surely hope you didn't pay this kind of money for him.

Javathon 04-19-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson (Post 2584669)
For any information you might want to know about Chocolate yorkies, here is a site that might help with some disclaimers. Chocolate Yorkshire Terrier | Chocolate Yorkie | Yorkshire Terriers | Yorkies

Let me start by typing that I am a chocolate yorkie onwer. The first thing I read in that site was "Actually, the "Chocolate Yorkie" is an overload of red gold and is a mutation of our breed and should not be bred as it is a complete loss of pigment." I complete agree, my Sookie was just spayed. Now would I have payed 4,000 not in this life time. Specially not the way the economy is.

I got her for a fellow YTer. Knowing fully well she was not to AKC standards. I wanted a sister for my boy and I just felt that she needed a good home. I don't care for showing, or breeding.

I will tell you this, If attention is what your want she gets it. Al ot of people ask "what breed is she?" no one ever asks about him. I don't mind educating people and telling them all about her being the human equivalent to being albino. For some reason I don't think that's the attention you think your customers will get.

MinMuf1 04-19-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by phfgkl (Post 2585154)
I assumed maybe this was one of her dogs pups. to the op, if you bought this little pup from someone else, I surely hope you didn't pay this kind of money for him.

Oh gosh, you're right! :rolleyes: I went back and re-read the entire original post. Disturbing...But, I will keep my thoughts on this to myself for fear of being Suspended or possibly even Banned!

erickajm 04-19-2009 02:56 PM

yea.... ok
 
I can't imagine charging $4000 for one of my puppies much less paying that much! That is WAY overpriced. I think we would all love to get that much out of a puppy but in my opinion that is essentially robbing a person. Unfortunately, there will always be someone out there that has no clue and will pay that absurd price.

I am going to close now before I really get to ranting..

FlDebra 04-19-2009 02:58 PM

Some questions to the OP --

-- Where did you get this puppy? If from a breeder, their name or Kennel name. New owners need to know the history of a dog they are looking to buy.

-- How much did you pay for him?

-- Why do you have to get rid of him now? I know your dad said, but why now? You have had him for a while, right? If you live with your dad, he must have been okay with it at first?

-- Why only one set of shots? Normally puppies are getting their second set of shots at 12 weeks at least and then a 3rd set shortly thereafter.

-- What sort of health guarantee are you offering? Do you have a copy of the contract you will be signing with your prospective buyer? What requirements have you set for the prospective buyer besides the ability to pay $4000?

I have to be honest that I wonder if some people off-handedly told you your dog was worth so much more than you paid, and you thought maybe this was a chance to make some money. Especially when this is a time period often full of frustration over house-training. While I am not against making a profit.....I don't think that is any way to do business with pets. This may not be at all what is happening, but it does come to mind.

Breeders that do merit asking high prices for their puppies have put a lot of work, much personal investment, and years of dedication into their line. They offer not only the puppy you see before you but a lifetime of experience, knowledge and love for the breed.

For someone to just pop in and make their first post about selling a 6 month old Chocolate puppy for many times what he would be sold by a reputable breeder, is bound to illicit some questions. I almost typed, "don't take it personal," but decided that yes -- you should take it personal. Selling Yorkies, no matter what faults they may have, is a very personal experience. This really is not like coin collecting where you can accidently find an old dime with a misprint and then make a bundle on it. These babies deserve more respect than that.

gkathleenw 04-19-2009 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson (Post 2584636)
The reason I'm asking this much is because I have asked other breeders, groomers, and vets and they all tell me the same thing. I should be able to charge a lot for him. They average price suggested was $5000. I take wonderful care of Jasper and he deserves a good home, not one who will look down on him for his "genetic mutation." He is a sweet boy and he will make someone a wonderful lifetime friend.

no comment :mad:


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