AKC Yorkie International, World Champion Line Pups
 

AKC Yorkshire Terrier International,World Champion Line Pups

Born: May 4th

Color: Blue & Gold

Available: Three Beautiful Males

Attribute:Great Temperament

Bonus:Mom and Dad on site

Cost:$1,800-2,000

Stock::Parquins
Mom: Parquins Zena Princess Warrior
Dad: Parquins Roman Soldier

Don't miss out, they are beautiful pups from prestiges International & World Champion lines... call 925-207-8212, or 925-207-8211

Please follow the Yorkies for Sale Post guidelines and post where you are located. Thank you.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5459

You say the breeder is Parquins...I am a bit shocked Raymond Antonucci would permit his breeding to be sold on a PET site. He told me if I used his studs people would be breaking my door down to buy the puppies.

925 area code is Contra Cost County & Alameda County California.

Parquins, telephone area code is 239.
Jessica

Got your response
 

We paid the price for full registration, and breeding rights of our puppies parents from Raymond thus allowing us the prerogative as such. Raymond has his established sphere. We have not developed ours as his. Thus, we are allowing full exposure and people to enjoy the Parquins puppies if they so choose.

Is there an offense about Pet sites? Are you saying that this site does not meet the quality standard for Parquins puppies? And if so, why not? And if not, maybe you can notify the administrators of this site of who you feel should be on this site and your justification for why so they may set such prequalification standards. But I really don't think they will because that could be construed as discrimination.

We actually have gotten alot of success stories from people who have sold their puppies from this site. We've talked to several people before considering putting our puppies on here.

Thank you for your response.

Parquins Studs
 

We've neglected to answer all of your response. It is true, people do knock down doors for Raymond's studs. They definitely knock down our door for our stud!

breeding
 

Welcome to YT...
What I was trying to convey is this...I am in Florida. Parquins is here also. I have talked with him a few times. Mr. Antonucci lead me to believe he never advertizes and has a long waiting list.
I saw the breeder in your ad listed as "Parquins" you are not him...and now it is cleared up. You have purchased your stock from Mr. Antonucci..you are actually the breeder.
I did not mean rushing to use YOUR studs in my post...he said anyone using his studs and got a litter of Parquin pups would never need to advertize, people would be waiting in line. I told him that was not my first interest when picking a stud. I see by your ad his statment is not true. He told me he did not sell his pups with full breeding rights. In fact he critized me for helping a few pet breeders with stud service etc. or selling to them.

I am probably going to get suspended for this but it is time to stand up..
Suddenly Yorkie Talk has become THE place to sell puppies. Breeder come here and are not up front about who they are, they are using "User Namers" so as to not be known as a "pet site puppy seller."
Once these pups are sold we never see them again...
I am sick of it..
Yorkie Talk is becoming another Yorkies Direct..except the owner of the site is not hawking his pups..he is allowing anyone and everyone to hawk theirs.
I do not advertize my pups here, but I feel it should be for contributing, regular posting members only...and you should have to give your full name in the ad. YT is one of the few who allow puppy selling and now I see why.
I have stated my opinion, no name calling, just the truth as I see it.

I'm 100% with you, YorkieRose. So happy you addressed this issue.
Jessica

I'm in agreement here with Pat - That ad was a little misleading - I had to read it 3 times...I wonder why 2 posts had to be deleted ?

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I don't think there is anything wrong with your trying to sell your pups on this site IF you infact legitimately are who you say you are and your puppies what you claim them to be then welcome!! Thing is most here have seen the shadey unscrupulous sellers who come through here with an empty member name, no posts and no real name or info, only phone numbers and empty promises occasionally breaking the hearts of some of the members when they find out they have been scammed.
I agree with YorkieRose, StewiesMom and Red98vett being hesitant and questioning a seller who isn't a regular member until a good amount of solid credentials is reached. It protects alot of us newbies here that wouldn't think to ask such questions and are taken by scams easier. Our older members have been there done that and I feel are looking out for our best interest.
I say if you are a true honest breeder of what you claim then welcome to YT!!! Otherwise be prepared to be dissected of erroneous posting/listing/contact/photo/reputation/address claims. Unfortunately fake photos, names, phone numbers ect. when it comes to the selling of puppies via internet is almost the norm. I for one would be excited to welcome a good standing, upscale breeder/seller that would be able to come on occasionally and offer great pups to great homes, It's a matter of gaining credentials like you said "Raymond has his established sphere. We have not developed ours as his. Thus, we are allowing full exposure and people to enjoy the Parquins puppies if they so choose."
As soon as people here know you're not scamming us and your puppies are the real deal, basically as soon as you're established you will be very welcome and most likely very popular LOL!!! You will see that members here are really sweet wonderful people who love their babies and would make you feel happy knowing your pups went to a great home. :jump28ib:

Well Pat, if you get suspended, just holler. There will be hundreds to bail you out. If there is anybody that we admire in their opinion, it's you. :thumbup:

I, too, agree with YorkieRose, StewiesMom, Red98vett Jessica, yorkiemomiee and Brenda.

I am sure this does not come as a surprise to anyone but I am in total agreement with Pat and the others. I noticed that the post # on the ad was number 1!!!!! That means the advertiser came on this forum only to make sales to people who LOVE this breed and want others to experience the joy in owning them. An ad, even SLIGHTLY less than exact, is never excusable, IMO.
I have checked several mags that I get and the last Ch. that Parquins features is in Dog Fancy and the year was 2002. That dog's name is Parquin's Royal Diamond. They list their phone area code as 239 which is not the same as in the ad.( As has already been pointed out, this ad is placed from CA.)
This is not to say that Parquin's is not still showing, I have no idea about that and I am sure they have other Ch. in their kennels. I just find it difficult to believe that such a well-known kennel would lend its name to pet quality puppies being bred and advertised in such a manner that appears to be their animals from their kennels. Again, JMO.
And, lastly, unless I have missed something as big as the name of the person placing the ad, they have not complied with the post by the adm to include their name in the ad as per policy. Nope, I just this minute checked and NO NAME other than the breeder which is falsely represented as Parquin's. Only if you read the subsequent posts will you see that the breeder is NOT Parquins but no inclusion of the actual breeder's name do I see. My dogs are from CH lines but do you think for one minute I would try to get over on a potential buyer by using their names as the "breeders". You bet your sweet hiney, I would NOT! that would be totally dishonest and and false advertising. I agree that you can use the kennel name if the owner has named the dog or bitch and included their name. HOWEVER, you cannot use their name as the breeder.
This could be the highest show ad site in the country--that is not my point. I have issues with advertising ANYWHERE in the manner thatyou have done on this forum. So, c'mon. Follow policies and include your name in your ad or take it down. We will back the adm anytime he upholds the policy and enforces it on purely objective terms.

Nice pups. That last one looks to have lots of personality! :)

Thank you for your response and your concerns, we are so happy to know that there are seasoned breeders/owners of the yorkie who care about the value of the breed. Though we are new, we sincerely care about our puppies. We thought since yorkie lovers come to this sight that our boys will find good loveable homes here versus other medias; newspapers, flyers. We felt that this was the safest way to place our boys. Apparentlly based your and other responses it isn't.

Do you suggest that we not sell our puppies here, if not what's a safer venue to sell them so they may get good homes?

Well Pat I agree! You go for it girl! I never have to advertis my babies! And that was miss leading ad! But my brain is little bit slow now days! Ha lily

If you are just getting started in the business, you might have to advertise them once to get your name going. I see nothing wrong with that. Once you've sold a litter and the word gets out, then, I can see where you might not have to advertise in the future.

Everyone has to start somewhere. I'm just glad that this person has been selective in her breeding lines.

But, Pat is correct. We see lots of people that join our site just to sell and not to contribute anything else. We love to get to know people and their babies. We are a yorkie lover community.

We are new at using this website and had difficulty correcting our postings. We also had alot of people asking questions that were not on the original ad that we thought could be addressed in the ad and save alot of calls. i.e pictures, color, stock from,date born etc.....we still haven't been able to figure out how to post pedigree....so after receiving several calls asking the same questions we realized that we needed to answer those basic questions on our postings but could not figure out how to edit. After being frustrated we created a new one. We asked the administrator to delete the original postings because we didn't know how. The other postings was a dot,dot,dot


Sorry about the confusion....

Thanks so much for the advise, and we are saddened to know there are scammers abusing the priviledges, and the deception that goes with the spirit of lies. We would never subject ourselves, our children, nor our puppies to that.

Perhaps you can also advise us on the safer means to sell our pups without potentially subjecting them to the wrong home? We would appreciate it.

Help with editing
 

Administrator:

Help, apparently we must have used the wrong verniage, our intent was to list the stock where we got the pups from who is Parquins since we got asked that question several times, from what we are hearing it should have read "stock" instead of Breeder. There was no misleading because below it we listed mom and dad. And never intended to mislead others to believe it came directly from Parquins but where we got mom and dad from.

Please help to let us know how to edit the word, we don't want to accidently press another post and offend others so they think that we are not being honest.

:mad:

I cannot speak for anyone else, so this is just MY OPINION> I have no problems with advertising on here. My problem is with the fact that the info in the ad is either mis-leading or not included.
ie: The breeder's name is NOT Parquin's unless they sold you an already bred bitch. You are the breeder if you own the bitch and/or sire. I believe your ad says they are on the premises(if I am wrong, correct me!)
AND, you have NOT included your name anywhere in the ad. We on this coast recognize Parquins as being from FL and the area code on this ad is a CA one.
As I said, I am speaking only for myself..

Thank you for the positive feeback and your advise also

Thanks for your response, yes we have mom and dad with us. They are ours. Our names our Levy & Darnella Barnes from California. We are ligitimate people, Levy is retired California Highway Patrol Police Officer, Darnella still working and both raising the children.

We are sorry, our intent is has never been to mislead anyone.

The puppies look oh-so adorable. But this whole breeder thing is confusing me!

Whispersmom says that if you have possession of the parents, than in fact you are the breeder. But, levyq is trying to explain that she posted "Breeder" instead of "stock". On the other hand, levyq says that she has the parents which would make her the breeder as Whispersmom says. So.. are you the breeder with the parents or .. not? :questione
I'm just trying to clarify it. This thread is confusing of sorts.

This is all new to us, and its confusing us also. We've received several responses that apparently says we are not. Yes, we do have the parents, that had the puppies. We are confused also and asked the administrator to clarify this for us since its been everyone's response to us. We definitely don't want to mislead anyone....

Mom and dad are with us that had the pups.

The stock they came from is the Parquins.

Thank you for your remarks about our puppies, we love them!

I am NOT a breeder......(thank-goodness)....but one of the great things I find about YorkieTalk is the ability to read and learn from breeders......

Perhaps, if someone came to yorkietalk ...joined the community......spent some TIME with us....allowed us to get to know them......get a feel for their breeding practices........AND LEARN SOMETHING in the process......then such a reaction could be avoided.

But, when one jumps in suddenly with 3 puppies for sale and the ad is somewhat questionable (????) it just feels like the fella running to the site of the latest 'news' trying to sell t-shirts.

Thank you for clearing those issues up. As you have probably guessed we are a passionate bunch and there have been many scams in the past few years. Makes us more cautious than ever we have been.

Posted on the wrong thread..ooopsie.
Sorry. :p

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Levyq
When people use my studs or have both parents from my breeding, I am happy to refer buyers. Long time breeders have the advantage over a new person. We usually have waiting lists. Personally, it is in the best interest of the pups to help place them.
I would contact Parquins and perhaps he will refer pet buyers..many do this in our Yorkie club all the time with people in your posistion.

I have been totally taken aback by the numbers of champion-sired and ch-line pups for sale here lately. We have a number of members who are hobby breeders, posting and contributing daily..I guess I want to see them get a fair shake..sorry.