...even if she does have to say so herself
...and judgemental
...and

I rest my case.....:rolleyes:

I told you before, I've know a lot of breeders in my life, none of them ever offered more than a year on a contract..I went to see if you had a website...which humm, you didn't..I would have loved to have read your contract..:)

:D And, you don't speak your mind?? Sorry...everyone has their own opinions..I have as much right to voice mine as you do yours...

This has gotten real childish.... When will this be closed?

HHa
 

Well if anyone has a point she does. I have looked on a million (of course exaggeration) sites today and no one offered that. I don't have a problem w/ it and neither does HHA... I think she was just pointing they must be few and far between. She has been very nice to me. People on here really do make too many personal attacks.

Maybe you haven't looked at the right breeders then... Also, there are some great reputable show breeders on here that don't have their own websites.

My Fair Lacy
 

I just said I wouldn't answer you. I believe you were just asking in hopes you could stir up trouble. I have answered that question to many people today.... all on PMs... and they are all still PMing me. I won't answer to you because you are just out to justify any attack on me. I am not going to get defensive about you and I have better things to do than fight w/ some women that must not have got their fill of the catty girl fights in highschool. I am just stating.... I am not going to talk to you... answer your questions as I don't believe them to be sincere questions... I believe them to be goads.... you are trying to get the pot stirring. If you had asked it any other time... I might have believed you sincere and answered you. But ... just as you have the right to believe what you want about me... I have the right believe what I want about you. If you want to PM me in a sincere question answer me... I would be glad to answer. I will not continue to let people stir the pot and try to upset me here. AND it is just a matter of principle... you don't care... you just what to find a reason to make Dina right and me wrong and a reason to keep people going and going and going. I talk only to ones that care. There is someone that wants me to give her this dog and let her get it care... if it needed it... I would do that. However... it doesn't... but I don't have any problem w/ people w/ differing views as long as they have the best interest of my dogs at heart... and are not trying to rile me up....

I'm not attacking you, but knowing what I know now, I would never buy from a broker. Too many unanswered questions, too many potential problems. I don't respect breeders that sell their dogs to brokers, and they wouldn't be my choice of where to buy a puppy.

I'm not calling your character into question -- I just don't think this is the best way to buy a puppy. I hope you find your girl a home since that's the most important thing regardless and I hope the new owner is extremely informed.

Now, I just went to shooterdog.com, and I've been reading and reading, and the longest on congenital defects I've seen is 2 years...hummm...! And these are ALL very good reputable breeders!
She came on here trying to find a good home for this baby, and if I wasn't so far from her, I would take her in a heartbeat...! not to dress up and show off, but to love, as that's what that little girl needs....this is all I'm writing on here..I will e-mail Meg or pm her...now, I have to get back to my dogs...they need their attention!!

Maybe Admin Needs To Close This Thread
 

Okay I wasn't going to jump in but I guess I will.
5 months 1 lb, huge warning bells.
I would never consider selling a puppy that size at that age and this one if I were the breeder I would not be selling it at all. It is far too likely that there is something very wrong and that is why this puppy is this tiny. BTW, a 5 month old especially that small, needs to eat oftener than twice a day. Anorexia a common in health problem puppies and documented as a common symptom in LS puppies.
I don't think the weight has anything to do with how much it is eating, something is wrong. This puppy in my opinion, is severely undersized.
There are issues that can be wrong that CANNOT BE TESTED FOR. What are they?
Embryonic or immature kidneys. Neurological problems that may not show up even with a specialist. Other liver issues that a test may not show up, may need an exploratory perhaps liver biopsy which likely cannot be done given the size of this puppy.
Growth hormone issues and those are just off the top of my head.
My bet is also hydrocephalic and I would definitely look for an open fontanel. If it is hydrocephalic, an open fontanel is better because it will help pressure from building up.
This puppy should not be sold. It should be kept by the breeder, wait and see, run tests, do the spaying with your Vet when it would be safe if ever.
If this puppy is sold, my bet would be the Vet bills could very well be astronomical as time goes by.
I think there is something everyone should realize especially in any puppy that isn't quite the norm.
From conception to birth, the dams system is what keeps it going and growing. ONce it is born, its own system now has to support it, it does not have the help of the moms physiology anymore to do that. Over time, which can be days weeks months often the puppies system, if there is a problem, will keep compensating to sustain life. Over time, eventually the probelm will manifest as the body can no long keep compensating.
JMHO and yes I am a show exhibitor/breeder with absolutely nothing for sale until I have no idea when. My website totally revamped should you choose to visit and read lots of info on yorkies is www.loribenyorkys.com

Okay I wasn't going to jump in but I guess I will.
5 months 1 lb, huge warning bells.
I would never consider selling a puppy that size at that age and this one if I were the breeder I would not be selling it at all. It is far too likely that there is something very wrong and that is why this puppy is this tiny. BTW, a 5 month old especially that small, needs to eat oftener than twice a day. Anorexia a common in health problem puppies and documented as a common symptom in LS puppies.
I don't think the weight has anything to do with how much it is eating, something is wrong. This puppy in my opinion, is severely undersized.
There are issues that can be wrong that CANNOT BE TESTED FOR. What are they?
Embryonic or immature kidneys. Neurological problems that may not show up even with a specialist. Other liver issues that a test may not show up, may need an exploratory perhaps liver biopsy which likely cannot be done given the size of this puppy.
Growth hormone issues and those are just off the top of my head.
My bet is also hydrocephalic and I would definitely look for an open fontanel. If it is hydrocephalic, an open fontanel is better because it will help pressure from building up.
This puppy should not be sold. It should be kept by the breeder, wait and see, run tests, do the spaying with your Vet when it would be safe if ever.
If this puppy is sold, my bet would be the Vet bills could very well be astronomical as time goes by.
I think there is something everyone should realize especially in any puppy that isn't quite the norm.
From conception to birth, the dams system is what keeps it going and growing. ONce it is born, its own system now has to support it, it does not have the help of the moms physiology anymore to do that. Over time, which can be days weeks months often the puppies system, if there is a problem, will keep compensating to sustain life. Over time, eventually the probelm will manifest as the body can no long keep compensating.
JMHO and yes I am a show exhibitor/breeder with absolutely nothing for sale until I have no idea when. My website totally revamped should you choose to visit and read lots of info on yorkies is www.loribenyorkys.com

Yeah and all those that dress our dogs don't give them a shred of attention right? :rolleyes:

whoops didn't mean to post twice
 

I thought it didn't go through frist time, guess it did. :D

Not sure if you are talking about me here or not but there may be a misunderstanding. I didn't say I wanted you to give her to me. You said that you were going to talk to your vet about getting a BAT done. I said if the BAT shows a problem, then I would be willing to take her and get her the help she needs but we would have to discuss price as the medical care she needs would be very costly. Meaning that I wouldn't pay full price, not that you should give her to me.

You're doing the right thing by getting the BAT done. The failure to thrive, lack of appetite, distended abdomen, and mental impairment worries potential buyers. And I'm sure that your vet told you that liver shunts cause low blood sugar which you have been very forthcoming about.

You know about these things, you've mentioned them to various people so you aren't hiding it and you know that a BAT has to be done which you are going to do. You're doing what any responsible person would do :thumbup: Another sign that you care about her well being. When you have the BAT results, you can give them to any potential owner as further proof that you aren't hiding anything.

I think she made that comment to show that the reason she would take the puppy is to love it and not to just have it for her size and the ability to dress her up.... She didn't make any comments about other people dressing their dogs...

That has been happening to me a lot too :p

She has in numerous other threads.... It isn't like me to jump in and be sarcastic, but when you continue to read the same negative comments it gets a bit difficult.

negative comments came from both ends... so both of you have to realize each others anger/thoughts...

I think it will be fair to leave this thread for the interested buyer to ask questions to the op , I see a lot of people with different views and valid questions but not looking into buying at all.

Yorkiegirl83
 

I agree. Thank you for saying it in such a nice way. My breeder is a farm girl who happens to be the vice pres of the company my dad is the pres. of. When she started this she was a lowly human resources officer. Anyway... her mother in law lives nxt door to her... she stay at home... takes care of the dogs during the day... Christy comes home... takes care of dogs... horses... after a long day at work. She makes excellent money as the vp of a major company...she does this for the love of the breed and of puppies she has had their great grand parents. I am trying to get her to sell on the internet so that she doesn't do that... but for now she is too tired to deal w/ people like some of these on here. She cries when she puts down any dog. She holds them til they are gone. Each dog is loved... their personality is recognized and they are not just left in cages all day. They live on a farm... they have built cover play areas.... different areas for puppies and adults...male and females... it is amazing. She is able to do this because she has had her in-laws right there. Under any other circumstance she couldn't breed. Someone is always w/ her dogs.... they are NEVER alone! She got into the business to try to put puppy mills out of business. If a pet store can get one through a broker from her... and it is healthy... and the same price as a puppy mill... they do... so little by little her work hurts the mills. I don't know what difference it makes if a breeder deals w/ a broker or not as long as the breeder follows through... knows they are taken care of... and she is a good responsible breeder. But if I had my rathers... I wouldn't do it that way. Since I know her... I know how it is.... and I know how great she is. The only way I could prove it to you all is by references... meeting my dogs... that kind of thing... which most of you can't do... I welcome any that can. And anyone near arkansas.... let me know... I will take you to the kennel next time I am down there.... fine by me. This facts are why I go out of my way to be more honest than most... I tell you everything ... good and bad... which may lose me sales... but means better homes for the babies.

Anyway thanks for the nice way you approached your concerns

Bye to this thread
 

no I wasn't
 

I was actually talking about someone that asked me to give her to them...

but I am not sure what you are talking about here:
The failure to thrive, lack of appetite, distended abdomen, and mental impairment worries potential buyers.

She thrives great... she is just small. She has a huge appetite for her size. She hasn't had a distended abdomen... except after she gulps water... which I was concerned about so I took her to the vet... they said it is like a baby that gets too much air and prescribed a water bottle vs bowl.... and it only happened when she was fighting for water (they all seem to want to eat and drink out of one... even though they have a food and water bowl each...lol). Mental impairment isn't exactly accurate... but I will have to let that go... because blood sugar does react that way.

I called the vet she saw in Arkansas today. He said once she passed 8ounces she was making it.... she was eating and fine. There were no problems that would have him run test preimptively... her size happens now and then... just like "teapots".... it is rare... but does not mean they all have problems. This put my mind at ease to know the original vet didn't feel there was a problem. I know my vet here adored her... he has maltese. He didn't recommend any testing... but I will still call him.

Thanks Miley's mom and Lorraine
 

Lorraine... you seem very knowledgable...thank you for jumping in in a nice way. I talked to the vet today and he did warn me that small as well as very large yorkies can health problems. He however said that they can be fine and just small or just large. I don't know... this is why I am as honest as I can be. The breeder did want to keep her but I talked her out of it... I guess I wish I hadn't. My mom also wants it... maybe that is the way I'll go. I think everyone one here who buys a teeny tiny realizes that there could be potential health issues!

Nikole

Hha
 

I don't think she was cuting anyone.... she just knows there are people in the world that want one this size just to be arm candy... like paris hilton...

You told me she wasn't eating well. I gave your info to a couple of people I thought might be interested. They said that things like swollen belly, retarded, not growing were mentioned? I thought it was just proof that you were being honest with them and not trying to hide anything.

No, she's made rude comments on several threads (sometimes multiple times on the same thread) about people dressing their dogs..even calling it rediculous. So, no, she was definitely being rude with her comment