Thank you, I knew what I was getting into when I got her. She is a fighter and doing very well! The neurology team at UT have just started her on a new treatment which gives me hope!

Neuro
 

They have been ruled out as neurological issues... and as I have a daughter w/ epilepsy and many neurological problems... I am familar w/ them and that was my first thought. The vet is the one that told me it was the feeding... as soon as we changed that... boom... but ... if I am late or if she doesn't eat... it could still be a problem. Blood sugar (and believe it or not... my husband has cancer... my 14yr old has severe epilepsy... I have 2 w/ asthma besides myself and I have diabetes...) causes neurological side effects...like someone is drunk when their blood sugar is low. She is only 1 freaking pound... she has no reserves! She is also the first one I have had this small so I have had to learn on the job... but didn't want anyone else to have to...

look at #5 on first post
 

I mention the blood sugar issues there... and if you search blood sugar any where on here you will read about the neurological side effects. So please people... I am not going to push this dog on anyone... plenty of people will want her and if not... I get to keep here whether my husband wants a tiny or not... so I win either way...

I just don't appreciate someone insinuating that I am trying to sell a sick dog. For one thing I have mentioned numerous times to people I have a 1 month health guarantee for all congentital defects. If your vet finds one... produce the vet papers and I take them back... give your money back...no questions or condemnations ...

It's obvious that you love this little girl very much and are trying very hard to find her a home. What tests did they do to rule out the neurological problems and did they look for an open font? The open font aspect is very important. I'm sure your vet already told you, but don't rely on the nutrical too much. It only causes a short term spike in the blood sugar. Feeding multiple times a day as you are is the best way to maintain the blood sugar.

You are honest and up front about your baby ...
 

I think you were up front and honest about your baby's propensity for neurological problems or similar episodes (low blood sugar) .... and YES, it is obvious you love this little girl a LOT!

You said you were NOT going to send her off to a family with young children and you emphasized that the new owner MUST be well learned about "teeny tinies".

I really hope no one is trying to start trouble. And although I think little Yorkies are cute, it is a very serious responsibility to be the momma of one.

Good Luck finding the proper home for your baby ... I pray that things work out. Do not let one person make you feel sad.

Someone else on here is having a problem with a "tiny". They need special love and attention.

First, you're absolutely wrong about me. I was never trying to be rude and yes maybe I should have pm'd you but I felt the need to post. You can ask just about anyone on here and I don't think you will find one person to say I've ever been rude. I stay out of the drama and was very hesitate on posting anything about this. However, it wasn't just the neurological issues that you happened to mention that worried me, it was many other things. I will straight out tell you the truth now on why I didn't take your maltese. I simply do NOT trust you. You mentioned differen't things to me that raised a huge red flag. If anyone cares to hear about those things they can simply pm me and I will tell them. I won't bother to post on here and add to the drama. I truly hope that these babies are both very healthy and my gut feelings are all wrong.

I've been on YT now for some time with many of these people. Many of us have become quite close and its like one big family. I never said this girl of yours was sick and only felt the need to speak up because I do care very much about the people on this board. You can think whatever you want of me, but I only posted because I believed it was the right thing to do.

btw
 

Before you believe Dina that I am deceiving you.. ask yourself how she knows... she told you herself....because I told her... why would I tell her and not everyone. she was interested in my maltese... but said she might be interested in my tiny yorkie... it was one of the first things I told her on the phone. I wouldn't risk the dog's life for a sale. I love her... carry her everywhere... clean her poop... wipe her butt... she is like my baby for gosh sakes... so I am going to ... what... send her to someone... not tell them ... and let her die of low blood sugar?

Ok...rant over... I hope

Dina is the MOST devoted dog owner I have *ever* known, not to mention one of the sweetest, most kindhearted people you will ever meet!!!

She would never post something negative about a breeder or a dog unless she had a darn good reason and I know this for a fact. I also know she would never start drama, she stated her opinion fairly IMO and I respect her opinion.

I would have to agree with this...there MUST be another side to the story...:rolleyes:

trust
 

Dina might not have trusted me... I was dishonest...told her the maltese didn't use the piddle pads much... and he doesn't ... I take him out...he loves outside... but if he is inside and I don't take him out when he needs to go he always uses it. I thought she wanted one that would only go outside and some people are scared off if you try to piddle pad and crate train. My mistake... I like her a whoooole lot and really wanted her to get this dog. I have had to turn down so many people and she seemed to be perfect.

I have never had anyone not trust me... so I am stuck... I don't know... maybe I get over zealous when I actually find someone who I would hand pick to take my baby. I mean there is a girl on here... again the one from Mississippi... she can tell you... she has had to try to talk me into selling her this dog because she has a child. A childless person that adores there dog's like children... sue me for trying real hard.... I must be a bad person...lol.

The thing is... she made a big mistake not taking the maltese ... he is perfect...lol.

My husband just pointed out he thinks I point out too many negatives... I tell every little thing about their poop...color ...texture... and I over ... OVER emphasis problems so no one can say I didn't say it. As a matter of fact even this blood sugar thing... it has only happened about 5 tms is 5 months... maybe only 4... but they are tramatic for me... so I am sure to over emphasis them!

How many people do you find that work non stop on potty training their babies... well I do... why? not because I love to clean the poop off them... instead of pulling out a drop tray... because then the people I sell to are less frustrated by their new puppy and everyone has a better experience.

I am not mad at Dina... I just wish she would have pm'ed me... and if my answers didn't satisfy her... then she could have posted here... but I would have sent her person after person I had told about her need to eat often and on time ...here...

Please... if you don't want a tiny... that is much more delicate that even a 2 or 3 lber....don't buy this one... don't email me about it... unless you just want to see pics for fun... that is fine...not a problem.

Ok, for the last time I was never trying to say you were a liar and I only felt the need to bring this up so others on here would know. You have to understand that you are new on here and I am not. I consider these people my extended family and I didn't want to see anyone hurt. My only hopes were that you could explain this more to everyone because your answers to me made no sense over the phone. I was only interested in the maltese because I have been looking for a male baby. However, I did say "as a joke" if I saw her that I'd end up wanting her also. Perhaps you did not realize I was kidding. I did not mention all the reasons that made me not want your maltese. I simply stated about the neurological issues with the girl and that was it. There were quite a few other things that you said that plain out scared me and they were my reasons for backing off. You say you were honest and telliing me these things about her and perhaps that was somewhat true but there was a lot more to the story than just that. Again, I hope both babies are very happy and healthy and find wonderful homes.

I really hope that this thread doesn't get closed, because this little girl needs a home.

Dina is a wonderful person and she loves her dogs like her children. She wasn't trying to offend anyone, I PROMISE you that. We've just had a lot of people on here who sell their dogs, then something goes horribly wrong. She wasn't trying to say that you were dishonest or anything, she was just trying to stop the possibility of something that might have happened.

I think you sound like you love this little girl very much, and I know you will find her an excellent home. I wish you the best of luck.

I believe that
 

"Dina is the MOST devoted dog owner I have *ever* known, not to mention one of the sweetest, most kindhearted people you will ever meet!!!

She would never post something negative about a breeder or a dog unless she had a darn good reason and I know this for a fact. I also know she would never start drama, she stated her opinion fairly IMO and I respect her opinion."

Someone wrote that... and I believe I said that myself. If I didn't give a crap or was a bad person... why would I want my dog to go to that kind of owner? It wasn't fairly... the moderater even ask you to pm if you have a problem and try to resolve it... doing that... I might have solved her issues w/o calling my character into question. This is not the time in my life I can handle stuff like this. I am a mother of 4 w/ a dying husband... I don't need this drama.

I do see now why people like wolfie say this place is crazy attacking... if feels that way tonight. And the funny thing is I was thinking about posting about how great this site is... I am on a boston terrier and min. schnauzer rescue site so I can help transport.... and on a maltese site...and none were this good.... I was going to aske if anyone new of a maltese site that was... but well.... I guess I don't have such happy feelings anymore! I don't have to be on here to sell dogs. I don't even sell on here... but since I'm not sure is the lady that is suppose to get GiGi is going to or not... I thought I would post it here preimptively because I met Dina and I thought... this is the kind of owner I would want for my dogs. But I do think some people get so wrapped up in their dogs maybe they forget how to treat people... w/ respect.

I'm gone
 

Ok... dina ... you get what you want... I am off this web site... as soon as I figure out how to cancel my membership. You still imply that I told you things about casper that sent up a red flag... good luck... he is perfect ... the only thing you could even think I was dishonest on was the piddle pad thing... and that was not totally dishonest. There is nothing else...no health issues... no nothing wrong w/ him... I was talking to you like a friend... and I was thinking you would be a wonderful one to have up here in this hell hole of a city where people are mostly unfriendly.... but but.... there is nothing wrong w/ casper... and you might as well tell everyone what you thought was because your implications make it much much worse than what ever bad you think there is. He is a boy... period... I can't find anyone to take boys... I sold 5 lately for very very reduced prices... people didn't want boys.... then people did... and they were sold... but no one wanted a boy maltese... they all wanted girl maltese... I am not giving him away... period. Maybe you got confused about some other story I told you.... I don't know... I was chatting w/ someone who I thought was nice

I refuse to keep going back and forth on here about this. You made the comment that I could have contacted the moderator first instead of getting on here and doing this. Well, I actually did message the ADM and was told there wasn't much they could do and if I wanted to post a comment that would be up to me. I have nothing else to say about this matter.

oh drama drama drama...:thinking:

I wish you wouldn't leave, because we aren't bad people here. Unfortuantly, like I said, we've had a lot of scammers come on who fail to mention health problems. I know that those weren't your intentions, as does everyone else, and that you mentioned her health problems in your first post. You were very honest about her, which is admirable, considering that's not something that's easy to find in a person. Dina was just trying to help.

The board kind of has mood swings so to speak, and people get touchy with some subjects. You did nothing wrong, and no one said anything with intentions of bashing you.

I really hope you decide to stick around and give us another shot.

I don't know why you are getting so upset if you feel that you are upfront and everything is how you say it is.

This is an open forum. Dina spoke with you this weekend about your dogs for sale, and was stating her opinion on how she felt about what was said during her conversation w/you.

I would do the same, if I felt there was something wrong.

If you are confident in your dogs for sale, I don't see why you would leave..

I would like to know more. Especially wether or not she has an open font. Would you mind answering that? You can answer in a PM if you prefer.

I might be able to help you find her a home, but I need to know more about her medical history and what tests she has had done first.

no... again you misquote
 

No... again you misquote me... I said the moderator or administrator says to pm people you have issues w/... I did not say pm the moderator. I just feel there are probably several things I said that you misunderstood. That is the only thing I can come up w/ because for the life of me... I can't figure out what you could have thought I was being dishonest on. I skipped my kids flu shots to try to get you pics to keep my word... was ready to drive an hour to meet you 1/2 way ...just so you could look at them... and then you would have seen them for yourselves.

My husband is a lawyer... if I have a health quarantee contract ... it is valid... unlike a lot of them. What would you have to be worried about. I don't know... but this is making me sick to my stomach

open font
 

No... she does not have an open font... sorry...got worked up and didn't answer that directly... there is nothing wrong w/ this dog. She is just a runt. Her sister was sold to my best friend's mom... 3 houses down... and her brother... they are more than double her size...lol. Actually that lady bought her too... but her sister attacked her... was crazy w/ her... so she traded her for the brother... and he keeps the crazy girl in check...lol. Anyway... I am trying to calm down...

For the person that asked why I am getting upset... well ... I was at first... but then I was going to let it go... then she just keeps implying I am not trustworthy.... or am hiding problems about these dogs. Whatever... it is christmas season... anyone who sells dogs knows that I won't have trouble selling them. And I will hold onto casper till then... even though people want him ... he has to go to a home w/ no babies.. and I am not lowering my price...haven't found the person that fits both those bills yet. GiGi... I am really really wanting her to go to an experienced home. The person who has first dibs... is trading me a temperpedic mattress for her.... and 3500 mattress... and I am still scared to give her to her... and told my hubby I kinda hope she backs out....
So when I found this site...read posts... I just thought God answered my prayers... w/ dina too....
She can think what she wants... and apparently that means telling you guys things that you should be able to judge for yourselves... guess it's the mama in her... I just sooo enjoyed posting here this weekend... w/ everything going on in my life it was such a release or relief from my reality... I could concentrate on what I loved w/ o worrying about other things....
I'm sorry... I shouldn't have tried to post a sale...then I could have just enjoyed the site w/o my character being called into question... and no matter what she says... that is what she continues to do by saying... "oh... there were so many things that I won't go into"....

Thank you Megan......:)

Thanks kristen...:)

I never saw that Dina was rude to you or necessarily calling your character into question. She had gotten a comment from you this weekend and asked you about it so that she, as well as other considering buying your dogs, could see the answer. A reputable breeder has nothing to hide and will answer any questions potential buyers have..they don't get defensive and feel like they are being attacked when a question of health or ethics comes up. You should be happy to answer any questions that anyone has about your dogs. She had gotten a bad feeling from you for some reason and wanted it clarified. She shouldn't have had to PM you because what she asked was something that everyone should know. It was only with your pushing did she finally say she just didn't trust you and she must have had a good reason for that. Maybe you have nothing to hide but something just didn't sit right with her. I know I have a VERY narrow view on what a reputable breeder actually is and maybe Dina does too and maybe you just didn't meet her criteria for some reason.

Also, a one month guarantee on congenital defects is nothing...you might as well not even have a guarantee. A lot of genetic problems aren't diagnosed to one year or even two years of age. My Lacy has Luxating Patella that wasn't diagnosed until she was two years old. If you really stand behind the health of your babies, I would increase that health guarantee. I know I wouldn't buy a puppy with a one month guarantee.

Anyway, good luck with your sale.

That may be true
 

Hmmm... as I am not a breeder...my friend is... that I can't be a disreputable breeder...lol. I was very open about that fact. She had already been told the answer to the question... maybe she didn't understand the answer. But that would have been fine... but she did imply other things. Look... maybe a reputable person wouldn't get upset... and that is what you think... but that is bull crap. It has to do w/ the personality of the person whether they get upset and someone that really cares about how they are perceived... and maybe by 35 I should have outgrown that...lol... but I haven't. I have so much stuff going on in my life...sometimes it is the little things that send me to tears and hysteria...like my 5yr old cutting her hair yesterday... I almost had a nervous breakdown..lol. Anyway... I was just hurt because I liked her... I was open and honest about all the dog's faults... all dogs have faults... so it hurt me when she implied other than that...

I am happy to answer any and all questions... but once we are dealing on pms... deal on pms until you don't have an issue resolved... it just lamblasted me that is all. Like I have said... I go overboard to tell people negatives because I don't want to have to give their money back and I don't ever want one of my dogs to end up in a shelter.

So... I really don't know this... people give guarantees for years? I didn't know that...really... and I thought knee problems were diagnosed from birth because I know breeders that put dogs down for that... which is insane!! don't breed their parents but don't put the puppy down...

Anyway... this is the reason I am here ... to find out stuff like that. And when people can inform you in a nice way... this site is great. I just have seen people get attacked because they have had differing opinions on when dogs should be picked up... stuff like that... state your opinion... but don't jump someone (not that I think Dina jumped me... surprised me...but not attacked).

hellp
 

can someone tell me how to get this site from stop sending emails telling me when someone has replied to this thread... or any other. I am not leaving the site... if I have a problem... there is too many knowledgable people that love yorkies to give that up... but I just don't want to feel the need to respond to all these people. I tried to take back my for sale tiny but it went to the moderator so it is still there. Anyway... if I could just make it where I have to come here to look and I don't have 5million emails about who is responding to what I might be able to get some sleep

So, are you a broker then? I'm confused.

Click on User CP (on the left side right next to FAQ, Members list, Calendar...). You can choose options under that

Yes, reputable breeders offer much longer genetic guarantees. A year is okay I guess but I prefer a lifetime guarantee against genetic issues. Reputable breeders health test all of their dogs and know their lines so that there should be no genetic issues at all in any puppies born. And if any do happen to come up, the breeder eliminates those dogs from their lines (not by putting down but by spaying/neutering). Knee problems can take months to a year or a little more to show up. Puppies bones have a lot of growing to do...growth plates don't fuse until almost 12 months of age in most dogs.

ok...ya'll were right
 

Those of you who said I was defensive... you were right. I was. I have had that problem since a teen. I thought I was over it... I went outside.. had a smoke...stood in the freezing rain... realized I was being defensive and that is a vicious cycle.

Let me tell you about me... not that I am trying to sell anyone here anymore. My parents have a friend...she is the vice pres. of the poultry company he is the president of...we have been friends for 20yrs. We have always got our maltese from her. Well... my mom bought my 5yr old a yorkie for her 5th birthday... although she was only 4 1/2... I want to be totally honest. So... after we got back to Virginia (where I live w/ my husband who is a Jag in the army) I had many people offer me money for her. I was offered 3000 for her... but she is my baby (opps and my daughter's , she constantly reminds me)... so I would say no... tell them where I got her. Well... my friend only deals w/ local people who refer local people... blah blah.. word of mouth and brokers (she started this business due to trying to buy one 25yrs ago...from a horrible puppy mill... and wants to make sure healthy puppies are out there ... she had contact w/ usda due to the chicken business... and a good friend who was her horses' vet and he helped her a lot). Well... anyway... here is why I started buying from here... she wouldn't sell to people up here... she doesn't ship or like dealing w/ picky customers w/ a million questions... which I btw like to educate and answer questions... I even loan out my yorkie books...to ea. person who buys a puppy from me) So... about 4yrs ago I had to quit my job. My husband was diagnosed w/ stage 4 malignant melanoma (in an area that never sees the sun for what its worth). I was having to drive him to radiation.. chemo... pet scans... cat scans... mri s... anyway my parents were having to loan me money to bring the grand babies to see them. One person asked me to get them a puppy... so I did. I charged a fee for the travel and trouble. Christy said she could sell me some when I came down which she would give me a reduced price on (although never a reduced price during christmas season).... which I could sell to people up here. This would at least take the burden of not being able to travel w/o my parents money off me. So... as people would ask about my dog... I put them on a list and said I would call them if I could get one like they wanted. That is what I did.... and word of mouth spread. I by no means sell very many... I could probably count on my fingers and toes the amount in the last 2 yrs....the most I had at a time was 7 this summer and 3 were presolds and she offered me an excellent deal on 4 little boys that I couldn't pass up. I came up here... got scared I couldn't sell them because I placed an ad in the post w/ only girl calls (1st time I've ever placed an ad besides a flyer at our local safeway) and so I marked them way down... made enough on the 4 extra to pay for my trip to get the presolds ... and had 300 left over... so I didn't make a lot ( I drive a gas guzzling expedition). I basically sell about 2-3 every 3-4 months. Mostly to people who want my dog or now to people who have met other people I have sold to. My husband since that first cancer at 33 yrs old has had a second... an undiferentiated carcinoma that ate the bones on the left side of his face (which now has a titanium implant to hold the skin up).... and the end of last yr he was diagnosed w/ Ewings Sarcoma (which is usually a children's bone cancer and extremely fatal to adults)... and had to have his left femur removed (all his cancers until now are on the left...wierd) and has a titanium femur. He was in chemo for 10months and quit because it was killing him (it was suppose to be 14months). Two months later... just the other day actually he was diagnosed w/ a forth cancer ... this time it is in the lymph nodes that drain from the liver. He has a biopsy Tueday but they are sure it is the Ewings again... if it is.. it is sadly almost a death sentence (except for the fact that I believe he is a walking miracle and the grace of God can pull us through this). But this time I am at my wits end... I don't know how much more he can take... my kids can take... or I can take... I feel like I am dying with him. My children are all freaking out in there own ways... it is just too much. So... I tell you I am sorry w/ a truly heavy heart.... I am tired... snippy... and really .... just trying to find the best homes for the 2 smallest dogs I've ever had. I am as honest as I can be... it is just I am so distracted... and tired that I am sure I am not myself when people talk to me. I don't have a lot of friends in the are... only 3 actually and none real close... when I talked to dina I thought wow... this is how I can make friends here. I am a southerner and No. Va is just way different than my way of life...and w/ 4 kids and everything we have gone through since living here... it doesn't leave time to make lasting friendships. I don't do this to make "no" money. That would be ridiculous. These babies are more work than my 2yr old! I do it to pay for the trips home... to put my kids in sports and just to make enough extra to do things we otherwise couldn't do w/o me working. I don't know who is familar w/ the D.C. area... but even though my husband is a Major... we in no way make enough money to live here w/o some money from me. I probably won't do this much longer. If he does die and I move home.. I will have to work...I'll have family to help w/ the kids... so I won't need to supplement my income. When I get these puppies... they are brought into a loving home... socialized w/ my children (who...don't worry are watched every second the dogs are out)... and since I have to crate them more that I ever do my dog (who is the least potty trained dog because of this...lol) the are potty trained... or at least almost all of them I get... before I sell them. She doesn't sell them to me until they are 12 wks... so unless I have a preorder...they are usually 16-20wks before I sell them...sometimes...like w/ these two more (although the girl I got really late...so I have only had her about a month and 1/2). If I was looking for a quick buck... I would find a better way than this. It is great... I love the dogs... it allows me to have them w/o keeping them and my husband is at his keeping do limit (I have a 14yr old min. schnauzer, a 4yr old Boston and Chloe ... my Yorkie... my husband's 12yr old lab ... think I told someone 14 but he was 12 passed away a couple of months ago... destroying my husband at a real bad time!)

I don't tell you this to get sympathy... I just want everyone to know why I sort of went off on a defensive tangent... although it is truly no excuse... and so everyone would TOTALLY understand where I get my dogs and who I deal w/ and why.

Thanks for your listening ear... Dina I'm sorry and sorry for the others who had to read it....

Nikole