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Old 04-28-2014, 11:03 AM   #16
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If what has been told to you was told in confidence "ie never tell this practice" then of course you are honor bond to uphold the confidence.

But if not, then you share as you wish. I for one, even if it might mean my competitor could equalize an advantage I might have, will always share my knowledge, such as it is. There is so much to learn just watching handling from the ringside, of course that is not grooming, but it is a very important faucet of showing, that I have learnt and seen for myself some of the "tricks" of the trade.

For me good sportsmanship includes teaching those newbies to the ring and making them feel welcome. They are after all the future of our sport.
Gail, I agree 100%. I guess I didn't express myself plainly. Even though I am still just a beginner, I do try to help others as much as I can - without violating confidences.
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All part of why I don't show my own dogs--
When someone comes to me to admire my dogs and ask questions as I'm nervously preparing to enter the ring, I feel duty bound to to be a gracious ambassador for my breed, even if that means a compromised topknot.
Due to my limitations, I have to rely on professional handlers--
One day we may have shows that are judged by the spectators, and they may be very interesting!
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If what has been told to you was told in confidence "ie never tell this practice" then of course you are honor bond to uphold the confidence.

But if not, then you share as you wish. I for one, even if it might mean my competitor could equalize an advantage I might have, will always share my knowledge, such as it is. There is so much to learn just watching handling from the ringside, of course that is not grooming, but it is a very important faucet of showing, that I have learnt and seen for myself some of the "tricks" of the trade.

For me good sportsmanship includes teaching those newbies to the ring and making them feel welcome. They are after all the future of our sport.
I've been fortunate to have tips and techniques shared with me so I try to help others when I can. I actually don't keep anything I do a secret and am willing to share any products I use, and I know others in my area that are the same way. We try to help new people when we can. I know a lot of people try to keep what they do a secret and i guess thats their business. I'm confident enough in the dogs I'm showing that I don't feel like I need to keep things a secret to win...

Sometimes I am busy and pressed for time before a show, but I try to be nice and answer questions when asked.
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I've been fortunate to have tips and techniques shared with me so I try to help others when I can. I actually don't keep anything I do a secret and am willing to share any products I use, and I know others in my area that are the same way. We try to help new people when we can. I know a lot of people try to keep what they do a secret and i guess thats their business. I'm confident enough in the dogs I'm showing that I don't feel like I need to keep things a secret to win...

Sometimes I am busy and pressed for time before a show, but I try to be nice and answer questions when asked.



I have been fortunate enough to have chatted with Michele many times and have always found her to be nothing short of gracious and patient with my many questions. A kinder person you will not find.

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I've been fortunate to have tips and techniques shared with me so I try to help others when I can. I actually don't keep anything I do a secret and am willing to share any products I use, and I know others in my area that are the same way. We try to help new people when we can. I know a lot of people try to keep what they do a secret and i guess thats their business. I'm confident enough in the dogs I'm showing that I don't feel like I need to keep things a secret to win...

Sometimes I am busy and pressed for time before a show, but I try to be nice and answer questions when asked.
I always share tips and techniques when asked because as Gail said we need to share our knowledge! I share the products I use and see no reason to keep secrets on special products and as Michele said I'm confident in the yorkies I show! It really is a good idea for the spectators to wait until after we show to ask questions especially if an exhibitor has more than one dog to get ready. But I do talk and try to answer most questions when asked while grooming, I may not look at one in the eyes as I am grooming and if I'm in a hurry and feel I'm behind I will say can you come back after I show and I'll be happy to answer more questions!
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It seems I was the one in the wrong for approaching this woman before she went in the ring. I hope I see her again at another show. She really had 2 beautiful dogs.


One more question....is there a national specialty for Yorkies? A friend of mine was telling me she was going to a Sh** Zu** national specialty this weekend in St Louis. Where can I find out more ifo?
























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Yes there are National Specialties for Yorkie. www.ytca.org usually has them posted. They occur in different parts of the country at different times/months.
I love the NYC one held in early Feb.
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Yes there are National Specialties for Yorkie. www.ytca.org usually has them posted. They occur in different parts of the country at different times/months.
I love the NYC one held in early Feb.


Thank you so much Gemy. I'm so excited that a national specialty is being held not far from me in August.
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I may not be right about this, so check to be sure....there's a Yorkie Specialty being held by the St. Louis KC in Gary Summit, MO. August. 27 - 30, 2014. A list of shows is on the YTCA website. The Yorkshire Terrier Club of America
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Yes, the YTCA show is August 27-31 at the Purina Events Center, in Gray Summitt, MO.
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Yes, the YTCA show is August 27-31 at the Purina Events Center, in Gray Summitt, MO.


I am for sure planning on attending this. Have never been to anything at Purina Farms but always heard it is a very nice facility.
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If what has been told to you was told in confidence "ie never tell this practice" then of course you are honor bond to uphold the confidence.

But if not, then you share as you wish. I for one, even if it might mean my competitor could equalize an advantage I might have, will always share my knowledge, such as it is. There is so much to learn just watching handling from the ringside, of course that is not grooming, but it is a very important faucet of showing, that I have learnt and seen for myself some of the "tricks" of the trade.

For me good sportsmanship includes teaching those newbies to the ring and making them feel welcome. They are after all the future of our sport.
I never showed but I've watched my breeder get and stay at the top, her grooming was amazing. Although she couldn't help people before showing, she was never rude. She even made a video so everyone could see all the tricks she used to make her dogs look impeccable and it sold like hot cakes.

I totally agree here with gemy, new people are the future of the sport.
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Topknots are the hardest thing to get right. Often times too when new people that the dog doesn't know will move their head to watch them, new voice they hear, and then their head is not in the correct position to put up the topknot. There is just so much to do to get your dog ready for ring time. One doesn't want to be late for ring time. Sometimes by talking at this time, one can get distracted and get behind.

Yes, there are Specialties where you will see just Yorkies. This is where you will see some of the best and a lot more Yorkie entries. I know at the NY Specialty where my girl placed Select - there were 144 Yorkies. That was not this past Feb., but the year before (2013). We had a great time!
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Thank you so much Gemy. I'm so excited that a national specialty is being held not far from me in August.
I am just reading this posting about rude show people, as my computer has been down. I am a show person, and have to agree some of the show people do not welcome questions before going into the ring. I for one, will answer any questions you may have, along with allowing children to touch my yorkies anyplace but on the head, after the topknot is in. I also, inform the parents, if they want to come back after I show, they children may touch and hold my yorkie. I own a Grand Champion, that adores children and welcomes a nice time with them at the show. So continue going to shows, and seek out those of us that are kind and explain why we might not have time before entering the ring, but in a nice way. Hope you continue to go to shows and have fun along with learning many things about grooming and showing. Let me know if you have any questions I might be able to answer. Have a good day.
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