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03-18-2010, 08:51 AM | #1 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lubbock, Texas
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| Be on alert at dog shows Have permission to crosspost.> *******permission to cross post***** > > Heads up everyone - especially folks going to the Louisville,KY shows > > I was at the Franklin,TN shows this weekend - just got home a few hours ago > - the points below were related to me either by the witness or the show > chair > - whom I know. So this is legit and all I know at this point > > 1. it was a good friend of mine who was set up with me and a few other > Berner folks who saw the two people letting a golden out of his crate - > fortunately the owner of the golden was coming back down the aisle - yelled > - the dog hit the floor- the people vanished - Later it was attempted again > in another part of the building but did not succeed. The sheriffs caught one > of the people but not the other, - 2. Ground/chopped windshield safety glass > was thrown around some of the rings and had to be cleaned up - it is a dirt > floor so it got slightly imbedded but did not harm any dogs before it was > removed. > 3. Someone got into a large area of grooming on the floor of the building > either early one morning or late at night and threw equipment and tools all > over the place - making it a mess and difficult if not impossible to find > your stuff. > 4. A woman with a PETA t-shirt was twice escorted from the building - > causing a ruckus as she did so - 5. They locked all but one door to the > building 30 minutes after BIS on Saturday night and had sheriffs there = > > the KC's giving the shows were very concerned and careful and all of us in > the grooming setups worked together to watch dogs and situations. It was > kinda scary - these folks are crazy but determined There were sheriffs > everywhere by the end of the show > > Be very careful - > Best to all > Murray Johnston > Briarcliff Bernese > Birmingham,AL
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03-18-2010, 08:57 AM | #2 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA
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| WOW...that sounds so scary....hopefully that's an icolated incident and it's not a trend!! Keep safe!!
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03-18-2010, 10:36 AM | #3 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | If a police report can be provided to us, as well as proof that wearing a t-shirt confirms a person's place of employment (or if this person's place of employment can otherwise be proven), then this thread will be re-opened. Also, places like this usually have video surveillance, so the spreading of glass etc should also be available via footage...?
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03-18-2010, 05:25 PM | #4 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Update: For those PMing me asking if this can be re-opened, the answer is no. Here is an example as to why: I've also received PMs from YT members asking if they can post threads that say "I've heard there are people wearing YTCA / AKC / Sporting Dog Alliance T-SHIRTS - and that these people are poisoning dogs at shows/ dog events!!". So, can they post those threads? No. Because 1) whether or not they "heard" this happened does not mean it is true and 2) just because someone is wearing a t-shirt advertising an organization, does not mean that the organization on the t-shirt has sanctioned, whatsoever, the actions of the person wearing the t-shirt. YT is not the place for tit-for-tat threads - no matter the organization. Threads like this are only going to be extremely problematic. If you have heard a rumor that may warrant posting some kind of warning to dog owners, then do so. But there is no need to charge any group with responsibility unless there is proof, such as a police report. Simply put, we're not going to allow YT members who have a dislike for Group A, to post unsubstantiated rumors about the heinous acts they "hear" Group A is doing. Because if we allow that to run amok, then we must also allow all threads regarding unsubstantiated rumors about Group B, C, D, etc, no matter how outlandish. {and yes, I've had requests asking if someone can post that the YTCA is poisoning dogs, bc it's along the same lines as the perpetually re-cycled "anti-freeze" post from last week...so...think about it, we're just not going to allow that kind of quid-pro-quo to take-off here at YT} In a nutshell, if some kind of warning really needs to be posted - then post the basics regarding the story/rumor that was passed along. Such as "We are hearing rumors there may be people doing this ____ at dog shows. Please be aware of this and take the necessary precautions to protect your dogs. If I can find additional proof via newspaper reports, or police reports, I will be sure and follow up." That would the be the appropriate way to post a true concern regarding a rumor. {as an aside, but related, it has also been circulated that these "rumors" are often re-circulated at dog shows, and through dog websites merely to generate more anti-animal welfare feelings, which in the end - just hurts all animals, imo}
__________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann | Pfeiffer | Marcel Verdel Purcell | Wylie | Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° |
03-18-2010, 07:24 PM | #5 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Second update, this is important. Compare this to the "rumor" being circulated - *VERY* different. And this is exactly why it's not okay to just post a rumor here, and incriminate this or that group. A very helpful YT member took it upon herself to email the Dog Show from which this rumor originated. Here was the response from the specific kennel club who sanctioned this particular show: Hi [YT member name removed at request], I have a rebuttal to all of those claims from the NKC Show chair that I plan on posting on the website in short order. I will say that according to our Show Chair, Brenda Weiss, there were no identifiable PETA people at the show and there were no people there wearing PETA t-shirts. As for the dog being released, there was a dog who got out of his crate and there two men seen nearby. However, no one saw what happened and the men had disappeared before they could be interviewed by club members and local sheriffs. No other attempts were made, to our knowledge, to let dogs out of their crates. There was some broken "safety glass," found scattered near two rings. No one knows how it got there, but it was immediately cleaned up and no dogs or people were injured. There were no police reports filed, nor were there any video cameras present. No claims about PETA activity can be substantiated at this time. Please see the website (will probably take another day for it to get updated) for the full statement from our show chair. Thanks, [name removed at request of YT member]
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