Does an undocked tail disqualify?

[Peabody]

If a Yorkie has a natural, undocked tail, is it disqualified from showing in AKC? Or, is it just a fault?

If I understand correctly, the AKC standard is "docked to a medium length," and the CKC standard is "usually docked to a medium length."

[bjh]

An undocked tail will not disqualify you in the AKC show ring but some judges may judge it as a fault. It seems I heard a while back of a dog with an undocked tail becoming an AKC champion but I can't be positive. I have never seen one in the show ring myself.

[Mardelin]

There is only one Disqualification in the Yorkie Standard: Color specifications.

Can you show a yorkie with an undocked tail; absolutely. However, AKC judges more often than not will not put it up.

[Peabody]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

There is only one Disqualification in the Yorkie Standard: Color specifications.

Can you show a yorkie with an undocked tail; absolutely. However, AKC judges more often than not will not put it up.

I'm glad to learn this. I really appreciate getting some good info. I think there is some confusion among people who don't show (like myself) about the AKC rules. And, since I would like to someday show, I'd like to learn the truth.

It raises new questions though:

1. What does it mean "will not put it up"? Do you mean won't let it win a position? Would the judge examine the dog and let her walk around for judging, or not even let her enter the ring?

2. What would be a disqualifying color?

Thank you so much!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Peabody

I'm glad to learn this. I really appreciate getting some good info. I think there is some confusion among people who don't show (like myself) about the AKC rules. And, since I would like to someday show, I'd like to learn the truth.

It raises new questions though:

1. What does it mean "will not put it up"? Do you mean won't let it win a position? Would the judge examine the dog and let her walk around for judging, or not even let her enter the ring?

2. What would be a disqualifying color?

Thank you so much!

1. What does it mean "will not put it up"? Do you mean won't let it win a position? Would the judge examine the dog and let her walk around for judging, or not even let her enter the ring?

When showing in an AKC show, within each breed there are several classes. Within these classes there are 4 placings (1, 2, 3,4) Within these classes the first place winners go on to compete for points that eventually contribute to a dog Championing.

A judge may find it difficult, because of his knowledge of the breed and standard to place a dog within the first place ribbons to go on and compete for those points.

Docking the tail to medium length, in my opinion does contribute to the overall balance of the dog.


Would the judge examine the dog and let her walk around for judging, or not even let her enter the ring?

Yes, it is a requirement within the US for a dog to gait around the ring. The judge is judging how well the dog meets the standard, not against the other dogs. They are judging the overall conformation of the dog; how well it is put together structurally, the coat, the attitude, how well it shows.

2. What would be a disqualifying color?


Colors
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Puppies are born black and tan and are normally darker in body color, showing an intermingling of black hair in the tan until they are matured. Color of hair on body and richness of tan on head and legs are of prime importance in adult dogs, to which the following color requirements apply: BLUE: Is a dark steel blue, not a silver blue and not mingled with fawn, bronzy or black hairs. TAN: All tan hair is darker at the roots than in the middle, shading to still lighter tan at the tips. There should be no sooty or black hair intermingled with any of the tan.
Color on Body
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The blue extends over the body from back of neck to root of tail. Hair on tail is a darker blue, especially at end of tail.
.
Head fall
.
A rich golden tan, deeper in color at sides of head, at ear roots and on the muzzle, with ears a deep rich tan. Tan color should not extend down on back of neck.
.
Chest and Legs
.
A bright, rich tan, not extending above the elbow on the forelegs nor above the stifle on the hind legs.


Disqualification
.
Any solid color or combination of colors other than blue and tan as described above. Any white markings other than a small white spot on the forechest that does not exceed 1 inch at its longest dimension.

[Peabody]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

1. What does it mean "will not put it up"? Do you mean won't let it win a position? Would the judge examine the dog and let her walk around for judging, or not even let her enter the ring?

When showing in an AKC show, within each breed there are several classes. Within these classes there are 4 placings (1, 2, 3,4) Within these classes the first place winners go on to compete for points that eventually contribute to a dog Championing.

A judge may find it difficult, because of his knowledge of the breed and standard to place a dog within the first place ribbons to go on and compete for those points.

Docking the tail to medium length, in my opinion does contribute to the overall balance of the dog.


Would the judge examine the dog and let her walk around for judging, or not even let her enter the ring?

Yes, it is a requirement within the US for a dog to gait around the ring. The judge is judging how well the dog meets the standard, not against the other dogs. They are judging the overall conformation of the dog; how well it is put together structurally, the coat, the attitude, how well it shows.

2. What would be a disqualifying color?


Colors
.
Puppies are born black and tan and are normally darker in body color, showing an intermingling of black hair in the tan until they are matured. Color of hair on body and richness of tan on head and legs are of prime importance in adult dogs, to which the following color requirements apply: BLUE: Is a dark steel blue, not a silver blue and not mingled with fawn, bronzy or black hairs. TAN: All tan hair is darker at the roots than in the middle, shading to still lighter tan at the tips. There should be no sooty or black hair intermingled with any of the tan.
Color on Body
.
The blue extends over the body from back of neck to root of tail. Hair on tail is a darker blue, especially at end of tail.
.
Head fall
.
A rich golden tan, deeper in color at sides of head, at ear roots and on the muzzle, with ears a deep rich tan. Tan color should not extend down on back of neck.
.
Chest and Legs
.
A bright, rich tan, not extending above the elbow on the forelegs nor above the stifle on the hind legs.


Disqualification
.
Any solid color or combination of colors other than blue and tan as described above. Any white markings other than a small white spot on the forechest that does not exceed 1 inch at its longest dimension.

The judging procedure sounds fair: my dog could compete and walk around the ring, but I couldn't expect to win since she wouldn't meet the standard.

Re color, that sounds difficult to achieve. At what age puppy can a person determine if it will have a disqualifying color? (I've seen white spots on chins, so I assume that would disqualify.) What about the other color requirements?
TX

[Brooklynn]

I've seen a yorkie being shown with a tail in NY. Not sure if the yorkie achieved it's championship or not. I think it placed in the ribbons one day but it didn't the last day.

Donna

I personally will show to the standard as close as I can and that means with a docked tail

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Peabody

The judging procedure sounds fair: my dog could compete and walk around the ring, but I couldn't expect to win since she wouldn't meet the standard.

Re color, that sounds difficult to achieve. At what age puppy can a person determine if it will have a disqualifying color? (I've seen white spots on chins, so I assume that would disqualify.) What about the other color requirements?
TX

DIRECTIVE;
The new Disqualification is an ADDITION to the Yorkshire Terrier
Breed Standard. It is there to disqualify Yorkshire Terriers with
colors OTHER THAN those as described in our Breed Standard. The
American Kennel Club is registering parti-colors, solid colors, and
chocolate and tan dogs as Yorkshire Terriers even though they do not
meet our Breed Standard as written. AKC will not deny registration on
color alone. These dogs have been shown at AKC matches and non-AKC
events. Immature dogs not having a totally clear tan or immature dogs
that are not yet totally blue are acceptable under our Breed Standard
and should NOT be disqualified. To do so would be a misinterpretation
of the Disqualification AND of the Breed Standard.
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The Yorkshire Terrier whose coat is of prime importance has a slow
metamorphosis from the black and tan puppy to the blue and tan adult.
Some of these dogs take three or more years for their coat to mature;
therefore our YTCA Members chose NOT to specify an age for color
maturity. Only dogs of solid color, unusual combination of colors,
and parti-colors should be disqualified.
.
In summary:
.
DISQUALIFY
„X Solid color dogs such as a solid color gold or solid color chocolate
„X A chocolate and tan dog or other unusual combination of colors
„X A white dog with black and tan markings (parti-color)
.
DO NOT DISQUALIFY
„X Puppies, Class dogs and young Champions whose tan has not yet
totally cleared. This is typically seen around the head area where
thumb prints may exist. Young Puppies may still have an intermingling
of black hair in the tan.
„X Puppies and young adults whose black body coat has not yet totally
turned to blue.
„X A dog that has a small white spot not to exceed 1 inch on the fore-
chest.
.
A Blueprint or Guide (Illustrated Discussion) as to what the Parent
Club considers to be the correct Yorkshire Terrier can be obtained by
contacting the club secretary. owen@kvnet.org

.

[bchgirl]

Here's a really good article written by a yorkshire terrier judge...

Judging the Yorkshire Terrier by Dr

[Peabody]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

Here's a really good article written by a yorkshire terrier judge...

Judging the Yorkshire Terrier by Dr

That's an excellent article! It's fascinating that the coat on the feet of a puppy is an indication of what the coat will be on an adult!
Thanks!

[Mommy2Lacey]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

Here's a really good article written by a yorkshire terrier judge...

Judging the Yorkshire Terrier by Dr

Thank you for sharing! Lots of info in this article. Going on what they said about the hair on a puppy's feet, my little Lacey bug will have a beautiful silky coat.