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yorkiekist · 01-14-2008, 12:25 PM

Pinehaven: In my opinion, this judge was a complete idiot and maybe he was just "trying to prove some sort of point", but this was not just young dogs and most of the exhibitors were 30+ year breeders. He DQ'd one bitch for not being the correct gold/tan on the head. This bitch was a beautiful specimen of the breed and their was nothing wrond with her color. He also DQ'd a bitch that was the exact same beautiful dark steel blue as her cousin in the same class because she was too light in color. One got DQ'd for color, the other of the exact coloring did not.

He did not have them stacked on the table, he did not even look at them gait, nothing. So, evidentally, this man is COLORBLIND!! And since the others waiting for their time in the ring saw what was happening pulled their entries there was nothing to put up expect the black Yorkie. The AKC rep was called to the ring and said he would "talk" to this judge. Every exibitor mad that day, even the person whose dog won. But, thanks to the internet, he probably wont have any Yorkies to judge anymore. No one will waste their hard earned money under him. Same with the other 2 known judges DQ'ing for lighter blue. I have talked to a few well known Yorkie handlers/breedes and they say its not that bad, its just the few known judges you dont enter under.YTCA basically made the change to keep the unacceptable/incorrect colors like chocolate and parti and golden out of the ring.

yorkiekist · 01-14-2008, 12:33 PM

Hey Sugars Mom: Get that baby out in the ring!!!!!!!!!! There isnt that much DQ'ing going on, especially in puppies. Most judges will just not give out the ribbon, not DQ. There are only 3 that I have heard of so far that are being complete jack-a**ses about it.

Sugar's Mom · 01-14-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

Don't let them scare you. Danali is slow to break. She is still almost black down her topline and a deep blue coming up her shoulder and hip. She took her first point last month at 8 months old. Dark is really popular right now and you'll find that your gal would do better in the ring than a dog that is breaking early and on the light side like my Carly.
Mary Trimble finishes small dark dogs around here all the time as does Barbara Stratford. Small and dark is in!!!

AKC or UKC? I am showing her UKC and wouldn't put her in AKC right now due to her color is what I meant. When AKC stops DQ'ing puppies, we will for sure give it a try.

Sugar's Mom · 01-14-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Hey Sugars Mom: Get that baby out in the ring!!!!!!!!!! There isnt that much DQ'ing going on, especially in puppies. Most judges will just not give out the ribbon, not DQ. There are only 3 that I have heard of so far that are being complete jack-a**ses about it.

Would you pm me with those three names, please. Thank you.

Brooklynn · 01-14-2008, 01:04 PM

The judges that have DQ'ed with AKC so far that I know of are as follows:
Mr. Filburn - said will DQ puppies
Mrs. Rosliee Anderson (yorkie adult too light)
Mrs. Olmous-Oliver (not sure how it's spelled but she's called Mrs. OO) dog too light from what I was told but not sure.

Brooklynn · 01-14-2008, 01:07 PM

[QUOTE=Brooklynn;1672013]The judges that have DQ'ed with AKC so far that I know of are as follows:
Mr. Filburn - said will DQ puppies (not sure I'd show to him at all) probably not.
Mrs. Rosliee Anderson (yorkie adult too light) - I'd still show to her I like her.
Mrs. Olmous-Oliver (not sure how it's spelled but she's called Mrs. OO) dog too light from what I was told but not sure. (I'd probably still show to her but not a light dog)

It's on either Infodog.com or onofrio if you'll do a search on show results.

daisy mae06 · 01-14-2008, 01:12 PM

Sorry had to state the above fact.

As a Hair stylist I have to Say Coloring is TOTALLY wrong!! OMG terrible!!

It makes no sense to me. Are you not showing to show you have BOB not look how I colored the hair

I know that when I was a Helper for a Husky shower they did use powerd to Whiten the white areas.. ?? Not sure if this is the same.

Brooklynn · 01-14-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by daisy mae06

Sorry had to state the above fact.

As a Hair stylist I have to Say Coloring is TOTALLY wrong!! OMG terrible!!

It makes no sense to me. Are you not showing to show you have BOB not look how I colored the hair

I know that when I was a Helper for a Husky shower they did use powerd to Whiten the white areas.. ?? Not sure if this is the same.

Of course it's the same it's called "ENHANCING" anything to alter the color is the same whether it be powder or a liquid...again it's not about color for me it's all about health, structure and movement!

daisy mae06 · 01-14-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooklynn

Of course it's the same it's called "ENHANCING" anything to alter the color is the same whether it be powder or a liquid...again it's not about color for me it's all about health, structure and movement!

Thank you

I feel the same as you.

SwimMom · 01-14-2008, 01:46 PM

As a former hairstylist myself; I would never color/enhance my dog...and I would never wear make-up, an underwire bra, or pantyhose to make my jeans fit better...Oh, CRAP...shame on me!

PrestigeousYT · 01-14-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooklynn

The judges that have DQ'ed with AKC so far that I know of are as follows:
Mr. Filburn - said will DQ puppies
Mrs. Rosliee Anderson (yorkie adult too light)
Mrs. Olmous-Oliver (not sure how it's spelled but she's called Mrs. OO) dog too light from what I was told but not sure.

You did know about Usherwood didn't you?
It was bad.
William Usherwood DQd** 4 dogs** For both Thumbprints and being too light.

Janice Pardue - warned she will DQ thumbprint in adults.

Mrs. M. Rosalie Anderson - too light but did not DQ for thumbprints in Open.

Raymond V. Filburn Jr - DQ'd 1 too dark this was a 12 month old.

Nancy Smith Hafner - She Dqd a puppy for not being tan enough?

Deana
Prestigeous

JaLaYorkieGirl · 01-14-2008, 02:15 PM

I was not present at these shows...so this is secondhand information...

Mrs. Nancy S. Hafner DQ Puppy in the 6-9 Month Puppy Bitch class for the Head not tan enough on 10/20/2007.

Mr. William E. Usherwood...DQ 4 dogs everything from too light in the blue to too dark. Would have to look for the date...

Mr. Raymond Filburn - DQ a 12 month bitch (Open Class) for being "too dark" in the blue. Fellow exhibitors said that the dog had obviously broken blue. This dog took WB the next day

I have a light female that turned 1 at the end of December...prior to the addition of the DQ she received 2 points and one BOB over 4 adult dogs at 8 months old...I was so thrilled...since the DQ was added she has not been DQ...but looked over imo...she has lost to a bad topline and a crippled dog who was not that much darker than she is...but pro handled. I agree get the cake right first, then get the icing perfect! (Just wish the judges agreed with that too!!!) We all want that healthy and sound dog with the perfect head and coat...but that is why breeding is so chanllenging...lol...sooner or later it all comes together!

JaLaYorkieGirl · 01-14-2008, 02:15 PM

LOL Deana...you must have been typing at the same time as me...lol...too funny!

PrestigeousYT · 01-14-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JaLaYorkieGirl

LOL Deana...you must have been typing at the same time as me...lol...too funny!

The great minds saying come to mind on that on Jackie

Deana
Prestigeous

Ladyhawk · 01-14-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

AKC or UKC? I am showing her UKC and wouldn't put her in AKC right now due to her color is what I meant. When AKC stops DQ'ing puppies, we will for sure give it a try.

Small and dark seem to still be doing well with AKC right now, it's the silvery blues that are having a rough time.

01-14-2008, 01:04 PM	#35
Brooklynn Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 4,280	The judges that have DQ'ed with AKC so far that I know of are as follows: Mr. Filburn - said will DQ puppies Mrs. Rosliee Anderson (yorkie adult too light) Mrs. Olmous-Oliver (not sure how it's spelled but she's called Mrs. OO) dog too light from what I was told but not sure. __________________ Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers www.brooklynnyorkies.com

01-14-2008, 01:07 PM	#36
Brooklynn Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 4,280	[QUOTE=Brooklynn;1672013]The judges that have DQ'ed with AKC so far that I know of are as follows: Mr. Filburn - said will DQ puppies (not sure I'd show to him at all) probably not. Mrs. Rosliee Anderson (yorkie adult too light) - I'd still show to her I like her. Mrs. Olmous-Oliver (not sure how it's spelled but she's called Mrs. OO) dog too light from what I was told but not sure. (I'd probably still show to her but not a light dog) It's on either Infodog.com or onofrio if you'll do a search on show results. __________________ Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers www.brooklynnyorkies.com

01-14-2008, 01:12 PM	#37
daisy mae06 Kodi & Pixie 2 Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: NEBRASKA Posts: 14,766	You dye your Clothes You Color your Hair Sorry had to state the above fact. As a Hair stylist I have to Say Coloring is TOTALLY wrong!! OMG terrible!! It makes no sense to me. Are you not showing to show you have BOB not look how I colored the hair I know that when I was a Helper for a Husky shower they did use powerd to Whiten the white areas.. ?? Not sure if this is the same. __________________ OK Yorkie Rescue - http://okyorkierescue.org LorisCritterSitter.com

01-14-2008, 02:15 PM	#42
JaLaYorkieGirl YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,079	I was not present at these shows...so this is secondhand information... Mrs. Nancy S. Hafner DQ Puppy in the 6-9 Month Puppy Bitch class for the Head not tan enough on 10/20/2007. Mr. William E. Usherwood...DQ 4 dogs everything from too light in the blue to too dark. Would have to look for the date... Mr. Raymond Filburn - DQ a 12 month bitch (Open Class) for being "too dark" in the blue. Fellow exhibitors said that the dog had obviously broken blue. This dog took WB the next day I have a light female that turned 1 at the end of December...prior to the addition of the DQ she received 2 points and one BOB over 4 adult dogs at 8 months old...I was so thrilled...since the DQ was added she has not been DQ...but looked over imo...she has lost to a bad topline and a crippled dog who was not that much darker than she is...but pro handled. I agree get the cake right first, then get the icing perfect! (Just wish the judges agreed with that too!!!) We all want that healthy and sound dog with the perfect head and coat...but that is why breeding is so chanllenging...lol...sooner or later it all comes together! __________________ Jackie JaLa Yorkshire Terriers Last edited by JaLaYorkieGirl; 01-14-2008 at 02:16 PM.

01-14-2008, 02:15 PM	#43
JaLaYorkieGirl YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,079	LOL Deana...you must have been typing at the same time as me...lol...too funny! __________________ Jackie JaLa Yorkshire Terriers

01-14-2008, 12:25 PM	#31
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	Pinehaven: In my opinion, this judge was a complete idiot and maybe he was just "trying to prove some sort of point", but this was not just young dogs and most of the exhibitors were 30+ year breeders. He DQ'd one bitch for not being the correct gold/tan on the head. This bitch was a beautiful specimen of the breed and their was nothing wrond with her color. He also DQ'd a bitch that was the exact same beautiful dark steel blue as her cousin in the same class because she was too light in color. One got DQ'd for color, the other of the exact coloring did not. He did not have them stacked on the table, he did not even look at them gait, nothing. So, evidentally, this man is COLORBLIND!! And since the others waiting for their time in the ring saw what was happening pulled their entries there was nothing to put up expect the black Yorkie. The AKC rep was called to the ring and said he would "talk" to this judge. Every exibitor mad that day, even the person whose dog won. But, thanks to the internet, he probably wont have any Yorkies to judge anymore. No one will waste their hard earned money under him. Same with the other 2 known judges DQ'ing for lighter blue. I have talked to a few well known Yorkie handlers/breedes and they say its not that bad, its just the few known judges you dont enter under.YTCA basically made the change to keep the unacceptable/incorrect colors like chocolate and parti and golden out of the ring.

01-14-2008, 12:33 PM	#32
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	Hey Sugars Mom: Get that baby out in the ring!!!!!!!!!! There isnt that much DQ'ing going on, especially in puppies. Most judges will just not give out the ribbon, not DQ. There are only 3 that I have heard of so far that are being complete jack-a**ses about it.

01-14-2008, 01:46 PM	#40
SwimMom YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Dallas Metroplex Posts: 250	As a former hairstylist myself; I would never color/enhance my dog...and I would never wear make-up, an underwire bra, or pantyhose to make my jeans fit better...Oh, CRAP...shame on me!