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Yorki3Lover223 · 08-06-2007, 03:51 PM

hello YTer's. my two babies will be getting their teeth cleaned next week at banfield pet hospital. i asked them what method they use to sedate their animals, and they said a drug called euthasol (they inject it threw needle). i don't know anything about this drug and wondering if anyone on here had experience with euthasol? was it a good experience or bad? please share. thanx you guys =)

Yorkieluv · 08-06-2007, 04:00 PM

I would not allow them to use any type of injectable anesthetics on your yorkies, ESPECIALLY not Euthasol...It is dangerous....Small dogs should only receive gas anesthetics like isoflourine or sevoflourine...This is just my opinion, but I believe most will agree.

Yorkieluv · 08-06-2007, 04:01 PM

Do a google search for Euthasol...You will see the information that comes up

Yorki3Lover223 · 08-06-2007, 04:08 PM

yes, i did google it. i read that they use euthasol and some other drug to euthanize pets =( it's scarey. i also read that it is commonly used as a sedative in the vets. i'll ask if they can you those gases you mentioned. will they have those gases available? i don't really care about cost. i just want my babies to wake up healthy.

Cyndiw13 · 08-06-2007, 04:09 PM

Please don't let them use it on your babies! I checked on yahoo and they use it to euthanize animals.

Cyndi

Yorkieluv · 08-06-2007, 04:11 PM

They really should have those gases. Tell them that you want either isoflourine or sevoflourine. If they do not have those, I wouldn't take the risk. Go to a vet that has experience with small dogs...
Again, that's just my opinion...Many people have lost their dogs to injectable anesthetics...They can't wake up as easily from it because it's in their blood...With gas anesthesia, they literally are waking up as soon as they take the tube out...

drawlins27 · 08-06-2007, 04:43 PM

Are you sure you heard correctly? If so, that is crazy. You need to ask for Isoflurane.

In veterinary medicine,
Pentobarbital is used as an anaesthetic and is dubbed Sagatal; it can also be used in veterinary euthanasia, usually when mixed with other drugs in injectable solutions, branded as Euthasol, Euthatal, Beuthanasia-D and Fatal Plus to name but a few.

Also read this for more info:
http://www.shooterdog.com/alexfaq3.htm#SURG

DO NOT ALLOW YOUR VET TO USE ANY KIND OF BARBITUATES TO ANESTHESIZE YOUR TOY DOG. MOST PARTICULARLY NOT PENTABARB. Many toy dogs have died needlessly because of UNINFORMED VETS WHO ARE DECADES BEHIND IN USE OF ANESTHETICS FOR TOY DOGS. If your vet thinks Isoflurane is too expensive and refuses to use it, then FIND ANOTHER VET THAT will use it. It could and probably will save your dog's life.

SophieRose · 08-06-2007, 04:58 PM

Personally, I would seek a vet other than Banfield to treat my animals. Just my opinion, however, they are the HMO's of vet medicine. Charlie was seen by Banfield several times before I adopted him, and they didn't even diagnose his demodex or thyroid condition; plus, I would never let them anesthetize my pet. Charlie had a dental procedure in July by our regular vet, and then referred to a dental specialist to remove his bottom canines due to the possibility of breaking his jaw. Having the best available for your yorkie's teeth is so important. Good luck.

Patti · 08-06-2007, 05:02 PM

I would not take the chance and find a vet who uses the safer gases.

Yorki3Lover223 · 08-06-2007, 07:24 PM

thank you all for your opinions. i do agree that vets shouldn't be using any sedatives that are threw needle on toy breeds. if banfield doesn't use isoflurane, i will take my babies somewhere else. i wouldn't want to take a chance. thank you all again.

Civit · 11-10-2009, 09:52 AM

Euthasol is approved for euthanasia only and in 15years in the veterinary field I have never heard of it being used off label for sedation....it would be far too dangerous. It contains phenobarbitol which IS a sedative but it also contains a paralytic that is designed to stop heart and lung function. Was this the vet telling you what they used? Or an assistant (Banfield does not make good use of lisenced or certified techs, so limited trained assistant may not have known correctly)

As for injectables in Yorkies, I have sedated, literally hundreds of toy breeds with injectables with no issues. I would reccomend Ket/Val or even better Propofol. If this is for dental they will use these to get them under enough to place a endotracheal tube in to deliver gas anesthetics.

Gas alone has the chance of causing a reaction, due to irritation of the airway, I have actually seen this happen more than once.

08-06-2007, 03:51 PM	#1
Yorki3Lover223 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2006 Location: california Posts: 64	euthasol? hello YTer's. my two babies will be getting their teeth cleaned next week at banfield pet hospital. i asked them what method they use to sedate their animals, and they said a drug called euthasol (they inject it threw needle). i don't know anything about this drug and wondering if anyone on here had experience with euthasol? was it a good experience or bad? please share. thanx you guys =)

08-06-2007, 04:00 PM	#2
Yorkieluv Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 7,178	I would not allow them to use any type of injectable anesthetics on your yorkies, ESPECIALLY not Euthasol...It is dangerous....Small dogs should only receive gas anesthetics like isoflourine or sevoflourine...This is just my opinion, but I believe most will agree. __________________ Miko 's his Mommy

08-06-2007, 04:01 PM	#3
Yorkieluv Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 7,178	Do a google search for Euthasol...You will see the information that comes up __________________ Miko 's his Mommy

08-06-2007, 04:09 PM	#5
Cyndiw13 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 54	Please don't let them use it on your babies! I checked on yahoo and they use it to euthanize animals. Cyndi Last edited by Cyndiw13; 08-06-2007 at 04:13 PM.

08-06-2007, 04:11 PM	#6
Yorkieluv Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 7,178	They really should have those gases. Tell them that you want either isoflourine or sevoflourine. If they do not have those, I wouldn't take the risk. Go to a vet that has experience with small dogs... Again, that's just my opinion...Many people have lost their dogs to injectable anesthetics...They can't wake up as easily from it because it's in their blood...With gas anesthesia, they literally are waking up as soon as they take the tube out... __________________ Miko 's his Mommy

08-06-2007, 04:08 PM	#4
Yorki3Lover223 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2006 Location: california Posts: 64	yes, i did google it. i read that they use euthasol and some other drug to euthanize pets =( it's scarey. i also read that it is commonly used as a sedative in the vets. i'll ask if they can you those gases you mentioned. will they have those gases available? i don't really care about cost. i just want my babies to wake up healthy.

08-06-2007, 04:43 PM	#7
drawlins27 Mommy's Lil' Miracle Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mufreesboro, TN Posts: 1,028	Are you sure you heard correctly? If so, that is crazy. You need to ask for Isoflurane. In veterinary medicine, Pentobarbital is used as an anaesthetic and is dubbed Sagatal; it can also be used in veterinary euthanasia, usually when mixed with other drugs in injectable solutions, branded as Euthasol, Euthatal, Beuthanasia-D and Fatal Plus to name but a few. Also read this for more info: http://www.shooterdog.com/alexfaq3.htm#SURG DO NOT ALLOW YOUR VET TO USE ANY KIND OF BARBITUATES TO ANESTHESIZE YOUR TOY DOG. MOST PARTICULARLY NOT PENTABARB. Many toy dogs have died needlessly because of UNINFORMED VETS WHO ARE DECADES BEHIND IN USE OF ANESTHETICS FOR TOY DOGS. If your vet thinks Isoflurane is too expensive and refuses to use it, then FIND ANOTHER VET THAT will use it. It could and probably will save your dog's life. __________________ I LOVE my little Furbutts!

08-06-2007, 04:58 PM	#8
SophieRose Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Petaluma Posts: 2,217	Personally, I would seek a vet other than Banfield to treat my animals. Just my opinion, however, they are the HMO's of vet medicine. Charlie was seen by Banfield several times before I adopted him, and they didn't even diagnose his demodex or thyroid condition; plus, I would never let them anesthetize my pet. Charlie had a dental procedure in July by our regular vet, and then referred to a dental specialist to remove his bottom canines due to the possibility of breaking his jaw. Having the best available for your yorkie's teeth is so important. Good luck. __________________ Peace and Light, Deborah My Sweet Sophie 1994-2007Welcome, Charlie Barley 4.14.07 & Sofia Bella 9.13.08 http://www.dogster.com/dogs/535291 Last edited by SophieRose; 08-06-2007 at 05:02 PM.

08-06-2007, 05:02 PM	#9
Patti Donating YT 30K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 35,509 Blog Entries: 6	I would not take the chance and find a vet who uses the safer gases. __________________ Cali Pixie Roxie : RIP Nikki; RIP Maya;RIP my sweet Dixie girl 1/17/08 http://callipuppyscastle.bravehost.com/index.html

08-06-2007, 07:24 PM	#10
Yorki3Lover223 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2006 Location: california Posts: 64	thank you all for your opinions. i do agree that vets shouldn't be using any sedatives that are threw needle on toy breeds. if banfield doesn't use isoflurane, i will take my babies somewhere else. i wouldn't want to take a chance. thank you all again.

11-10-2009, 09:52 AM	#11
Civit YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Camas, WA Posts: 1	Euthasol is approved for euthanasia only and in 15years in the veterinary field I have never heard of it being used off label for sedation....it would be far too dangerous. It contains phenobarbitol which IS a sedative but it also contains a paralytic that is designed to stop heart and lung function. Was this the vet telling you what they used? Or an assistant (Banfield does not make good use of lisenced or certified techs, so limited trained assistant may not have known correctly) As for injectables in Yorkies, I have sedated, literally hundreds of toy breeds with injectables with no issues. I would reccomend Ket/Val or even better Propofol. If this is for dental they will use these to get them under enough to place a endotracheal tube in to deliver gas anesthetics. Gas alone has the chance of causing a reaction, due to irritation of the airway, I have actually seen this happen more than once.