Prescription Hills D/D Salmon and Potato

[dwerten]

Does anyone feed their dog this and has it helped with allergies as it is a novel protein diet?

Also a word of advice the vet said any bag of food you should feed 1/2 of recommended as to not over feed as companies trying to get dogs to eat more so buy more food and becoming over weight

[RLC12345678]

How expensive is this food? Before you go with an expensive prescription diet, I would try Natural Balance Fish & Sweet Potato or Duck & Potato. I have been feeding these to my yorkie with allergies and it has done WONDERS! And it's only about $8-$10 for a 5lb bag which lasts a month.

[Yorkieluv]

Great advice!! I know several people who have switched to NB Duck and Potato who have dogs with allergies, and it has been a success...

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by RLC12345678

How expensive is this food? Before you go with an expensive prescription diet, I would try Natural Balance Fish & Sweet Potato or Duck & Potato. I have been feeding these to my yorkie with allergies and it has done WONDERS! And it's only about $8-$10 for a 5lb bag which lasts a month.

she has been on salmon and potato dd for about a year off and on

[MyFairLacy]

I wouldn't feed any food to my dog made by Hills, prescription or not.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

I wouldn't feed any food to my dog made by Hills, prescription or not.

I have seen your other postings but why do you dislike hills so much - i know other is science diet regular prescription - not too thrilled myself so had mine on ivd (royal canine) prescription but dexter got pancreatitis on ivd fish and potato - he itched like crazy on hills prescription ultra z/d the ultra allergy free dog food - yeah right - it had soy, corn and chicken in it I am just so frustrated with dd itching and tried so many things including raw natures variety - pulling my hair out - she goes to derm on wednesday and i am going to fax all the postings here for her to read tomorrow to go over as my gut is this dd food is not good for her but she needs to be on low protein and duck and potato is 21% protein and the salmon is only 18% and they do not think a vegetarian diet will be good for her with her allergies - ugh so frustrated

[Yorkieluv]

Do they know which ingredient she is allergic to?

[Yorkieluv]

How about Solid Gold Holistique Blendz? It's only 18% protein and oatmeal and fish are the main sources of protein...
Ingredients:
Oatmeal, Cracked Pearled Barley, Millet, Ocean Fish, Potatoes, Canola Oil, Tomato Pomace, Flaxseed, Natural Flavor, Salmon Oil (source of DHA), Choline Chloride, Taurine, Dried Chicory Root, Amaranth, Parsley Flakes, Spearmint, Almond Oil, Sesame Oil, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Kelp, Thyme, Blueberries, Cranberries, Apples, Lentils, Quinoa, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Thiamine Mononitrate, Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Calcium Panthothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin, Vitamin D Supplement, Folic Acid

Guaranteed Analysis %:
Protein 18
Moisture 10
Fat 6
Fiber 4

If you join the liver shunt/mvd group, they have recipes in the files section that are safe for dogs with liver issues...I know one of them could be beneficial to DD...5 ingredients and I don't know any dogs that are allergic to those particular ingredients...This is what I feed my liver compromised dog.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Yorkieluv

How about Solid Gold Holistique Blendz? It's only 18% protein and oatmeal and fish are the main sources of protein...
Ingredients:
Oatmeal, Cracked Pearled Barley, Millet, Ocean Fish, Potatoes, Canola Oil, Tomato Pomace, Flaxseed, Natural Flavor, Salmon Oil (source of DHA), Choline Chloride, Taurine, Dried Chicory Root, Amaranth, Parsley Flakes, Spearmint, Almond Oil, Sesame Oil, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Kelp, Thyme, Blueberries, Cranberries, Apples, Lentils, Quinoa, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Thiamine Mononitrate, Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Calcium Panthothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin, Vitamin D Supplement, Folic Acid

Guaranteed Analysis %:
Protein 18
Moisture 10
Fat 6
Fiber 4

If you join the liver shunt/mvd group, they have recipes in the files section that are safe for dogs with liver issues...I know one of them could be beneficial to DD...5 ingredients and I don't know any dogs that are allergic to those particular ingredients...This is what I feed my liver compromised dog.

thanks only thing is on her allergy test flaxseed and barley on it and they wanted to only have two ingredients such as salmon and potato - i will take to derm - how do i join the mvd/liver shunt group as that could be helpful

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Yorkieluv

Do they know which ingredient she is allergic to?

just about everything but i have been told blood cannot determine food allergies only environmental. the only thing with food is to determine is through and elimination diet - so frustrating

[RLC12345678]

Originally Posted by Yorkieluv

How about Solid Gold Holistique Blendz? It's only 18% protein and oatmeal and fish are the main sources of protein...
Ingredients:
Oatmeal, Cracked Pearled Barley, Millet, Ocean Fish, Potatoes, Canola Oil, Tomato Pomace, Flaxseed, Natural Flavor, Salmon Oil (source of DHA), Choline Chloride, Taurine, Dried Chicory Root, Amaranth, Parsley Flakes, Spearmint, Almond Oil, Sesame Oil, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Kelp, Thyme, Blueberries, Cranberries, Apples, Lentils, Quinoa, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Thiamine Mononitrate, Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Calcium Panthothenate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin, Vitamin D Supplement, Folic Acid

Guaranteed Analysis %:
Protein 18
Moisture 10
Fat 6
Fiber 4

If you join the liver shunt/mvd group, they have recipes in the files section that are safe for dogs with liver issues...I know one of them could be beneficial to DD...5 ingredients and I don't know any dogs that are allergic to those particular ingredients...This is what I feed my liver compromised dog.

barley is a no no for allergies!

[RLC12345678]

Originally Posted by dwerten

she has been on salmon and potato dd for about a year off and on

Try the Duck & Potato one if the fish flavor doesn't work.

[Patti]

Cali has been thru the allergy blood testing for food and environmental and didn't show an allergy to anything they tested for and the test was 300.00. So now she is on California Natural lamb and rice which is a novel protein and 1 carbohydrate and it's been over 5 weeks and she is still scratching all the time. I do not know what to do next as the derm said the elimination diet is the only way to find out if it is a food allergy. I still give her milk bones but I need to stop them too. Cali also has a mild MVD (liver shunt). I know how frustrated you are. I just want Cali to stop scratching all the time.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Patti

Cali has been thru the allergy blood testing for food and environmental and didn't show an allergy to anything they tested for and the test was 300.00. So now she is on California Natural lamb and rice which is a novel protein and 1 carbohydrate and it's been over 5 weeks and she is still scratching all the time. I do not know what to do next as the derm said the elimination diet is the only way to find out if it is a food allergy. I still give her milk bones but I need to stop them too. Cali also has a mild MVD (liver shunt). I know how frustrated you are. I just want Cali to stop scratching all the time.

yeah i am right there with u 2 1/2 years of this - ugh

we did the elimination diet so you should try that and STOP the milk bones as something in there could be causing it - what ingredients are in that ?

we did an elimination diet of pinto beans, safflower oil, and potato with a centrum vitamin but i didn't do the vitamin - she seemed much better but itched a little although she hated pinto beans we ended up having to put in almond butter from whole foods to get her to eat it but i did notice she was a bit better during that time.

then we put her back on the dd salmon and potato as dexter got sick as he ate some of her pinto beans and thought that made him get ibd attack so put her back on food he was on and she has seemed itchier

I could not keep her on the pinto beans forever though as not enough nutrition

soooo frustrating but i keep searching for the answer

she is on atopica now for 2 1/2 months so because she is still itching i am thinking it might be food more so now so will discuss with dermatologist

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by dwerten

I have seen your other postings but why do you dislike hills so much - i know other is science diet regular prescription - not too thrilled myself so had mine on ivd (royal canine) prescription but dexter got pancreatitis on ivd fish and potato - he itched like crazy on hills prescription ultra z/d the ultra allergy free dog food - yeah right - it had soy, corn and chicken in it

Although I think Science Diet (Hills) is better than some things (ie. Old Roy, Dog Chow, Cat Chow, etc.), I think there are so many more better foods. I consider it a grocery store brand and in no way a premium brand of pet food. It's loaded with corn, wheat, fillers, biproducts and other crap.

Their adult original dry dog food:
Chicken, Ground Whole Grain Corn, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Ground Whole Grain Wheat, Chicken By-Product Meal, Soybean Meal, Animal Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Corn Gluten Meal, Brewers Rice, Chicken Liver Flavor, Soybean Oil, Dried Egg Product, Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride, Iodized Salt, Calcium Carbonate, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), DL-Methionine, preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract.

I'm starting vet school in the fall, and I know Hills donates a ton of money to vet schools and The Veterinary Association. They also teach most of the nutrition classes and tell the students that their food is best. And there is not much about nutrition even taught eat vet school. Also, Hills along with other big companies like Purina, Iams, Eukanuba, etc give vets that sell their products huge kick-backs and a lot of free products. Being a vet student, I can get 80% off any Hills or Purina pet foods if I wanted to. No thanks - I would rather keep spending my money on premium foods for my pets. These companies do this to get vet students hooked on their foods so they recommend it to their clients later on. Pretty good marketing ploy huh? Here is an article I found that basically says what I already did.


An article from the Wallstreet journal:
http://www.simplyschnauzer.net/hills.html

A couple quotes from the article that I think are important:

"Borrowing a page from the pharmaceuticals companies, which routinely woo doctors to prescribe their drugs, Hill's has spent a generation cultivating its professional following. It spends hundreds of thousands of dollars a year funding university research and nutrition courses at every one of the 27 U.S. veterinary colleges. Once in practice, vets who sell Science Diet and other premium foods directly from their offices pocket profits of as much as 40%. "

"But the reliance on vet endorsements has its critics. "Consumers think they're getting a better product because veterinarians are recommending it," says Ann Martin, author of a new book, "Foods Pets Die For, " She notes that many pet doctors are "brainwashed into thinking they have to recommend these commercial foods," having been so heavily exposed to them in vet schools. "