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02-01-2007, 07:13 PM | #16 |
Kodi & Pixie 2 Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: NEBRASKA
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02-01-2007, 07:22 PM | #17 | |
Kodi & Pixie 2 Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: NEBRASKA
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good luck and I do hope you waite till next time. | |
02-01-2007, 09:24 PM | #18 | |
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I wish you and your pup the best of luck and trust that after taking some time to learn a few things you will do what you feel is in her best interest. You seem to love her very much so I trust you will care for her health first and foremost. | |
02-01-2007, 09:34 PM | #19 |
Love My Furbabies! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: somewhere
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| In my opinion you don't seem educated enough to be breeding just yet. Just the fact that you didn't even know that you should not breed the first heat, which is a cardinal rule of breeding shows your lack of knowledge on this subject. I know that you "love your dogs", but that isn't a good enough reason to breed, and I really don't think you're prepared whatsoever for what goes along w/it. Yorkiedaze's post was VERY informative and you didn't even comment on it. Anyhow, I'm hoping you'll reconsider and take time to re evaluate breeding until you know more about it. |
02-02-2007, 11:59 AM | #20 |
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| I am no breeder nor can offer any advice other than say good luck and 'hope' you are prepared. I would follow Yorkierose's and Yorkiedaze's advice........ BUT. I too, get the impression it's going in one ear and out the other... I truly wish you lots of luck
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02-02-2007, 12:23 PM | #21 | |
Little Boogers Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: virginia beach, va
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i totally agree. i have studied breeding for two years before attempting it. and believe me, i felt i still did not know enough. do you know what to do when they tie? if the bitch is upset and crying, what to do during the tie? signs of problems in labor? these are just a tiny bit of the numerous amount of information you will need to know. we have seen too many people here on yt loose the mother or the babies b/c they didn't know the signs. please learn all you can. best thing thing to do is get a mentor. all the reading in the world cannot prepare you for the whelping.
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02-02-2007, 12:32 PM | #22 | |
Its all about the yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jersey
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Shes going to breed her dog no matter what anyone says. Its amazing how many people breed with no knowledge of breeding whatsoever. I have a feeling we will be seeing a post soon. My dog is pregnant and due tomorrow what do I do? Why do people wait until the very last minute to do their research? These things should be researched extensively BEFORE one breeds. You dont come to a fourm when your dog is in season and ask questions then. You are not going to learn all the important stuff just days before you decide to breed your dog. I wish people would stop and consider their dogs before they consider making puppies. Do you seriously want to put your dog at any kind of risk just to make some cute puppies? YOUR BITCH CAN DIE IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING!
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02-02-2007, 12:42 PM | #23 | |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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As Yorkie Rose says, the bitch is going to end up pregnant this time around.....Why she would put her dog in that kind of agony in the same room.... I know what it's like around here when one of my girls is in Season. My boys are bonkers.....off food, not sleeping, they only have one thing on their mind. I completely seperate them in seperate rooms and crates....\ Amazing: She's heard that they bleed for 10 days........
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02-04-2007, 09:30 AM | #24 |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nebraska
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| Sorry, but I have to agree with what everyone else is saying. I breed my Germ. Shep. but waited until she was 2 years old. I wanted her to be completely done growing/maturing. My stud was three by then. I still breed her every other heat cycle. She took this past year off though, so I will be looking for her summer heat cycle and breed her one more time. The stud no longer lives with us though. |
02-04-2007, 12:49 PM | #25 |
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| Just found a few of your posts that were interesting... "She's Peggy Sorenson from Verdin, Illinois, we just bought a 6 week old Yorkie from her today, but I'm not sure if shes completely healthy. Has anyone heard of her?" your first one you were talking about your little girl and apparantly you bought her when she was 6 weeks old? I don't know ANY reputable breeder that will sell a pup at 6 weeks so your little girl is probably from backyard breeder or a puppy mill and will most likely have all kinds of problems. People that let their pups go at that age are just looking for money and not for quality so I would not be suprised if your girl has numerous health problems and by breeding her you are just going to cause other pups to have numerous health problems and possibly kill both your mother and your pups. Secondly... "We have two yorkies and the female is younger (5months) than the male(6months), but a little bigger. We feed them in the same bowl but she seems to eat all the food while he sits and watches her, we do feed him seperatly afterward but what can we do about this we would like them to be able to share the same bowl at the same time." You stated that your male is older and bigger than your female. I'm not even a breeder and I know that the male is suppose to be a good bit smaller than the female. If you breed close in size you risk the chance of the mother needing a c-section or even dying because the pups are too big for her to give birth to. If you breed with one that is BIGGER than your female the chances that your little girl will have problems are extremely high! I really doubt your going to listen to any of the advice given to you, bu wanted to state those two things so that when you do breed and have a whole mess of problems and who knows what else.... You can't say, well, I didn't know any better, because from everything everyone has said on here, you do know better. The choice now lies in your hands, to decide whether you really do love your dogs or whether you are looking to make a quick buck. If you choose the latter keep in mind, if things go wrong, not only will you not make a quick buck, you'll probably be in a crazy amount of debt...vet bills are not cheap. |
02-04-2007, 01:24 PM | #26 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Iowa
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| I am not a breeder and have little to no knowledge about it. But I would say people are here to get advice not have past posts thrown in their face! Giving her knowledge as to why she shouldnt breed is the right thing to do. Lecture her and make her feel unwelcome is wrong! Nobody on here HAD ALL THE ANSWERS when they first got their yorkie.... Dont get me wrong she sounds inexperienced but getting harsh with her is RUDE and for a place to come and get help you pretty much told her dont ask for it because she didnt know an answer to one question..... No wonder when I sit and read this forum you see the same old people....Because u attack everyone else!
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02-04-2007, 01:31 PM | #27 |
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| I wasn't trying to attack her at all, she stared out this posting looking for information and I had not met her before so I didn't have a clue about her baby that she wanted to breed. I was actually looking through her old post to see if I could figure out her girls weight in hopes to give her some facts about breeding certain weights. If you read my previous post on this thread I certainly did not try to lecture her, only to educate her with what little I know. I'm not a breeder but have read a lot about yorkies and only wish her the best for her little one. I certainly didn't have all the answers when I first got my yorkie but I read and researched about 6 months before I got mine learning all that I could, and that was just to be an owner not to breed. I've never attacked anyone on this thread, I've even stood up for people several times who have been attacked because I don't think that is how you should deal with people. If my post to her came off angry or harsh or like a "lecture" I apologize. It certainly was not meant that way. I was only meaning to inform and hopefully help her better understand the dangers of breeding her little girl. In the end it is her decision and she has the right to do whatever she wants to do and I completley respect that. But, I would hate for her to breed her little girl, to young, and to a bigger male, and not know the health history and then end up with so many problems. A friend of mine decided against everyones advice to breed to early and ended up killing her bitch. Perhaps that is why I am sensitive on this issue, I hate to see animals die because of someones mistake... Again, I apologize if anything from my post was taken with offense, I meant no harm by it, was only trying to be helpful and bring up a few facts that may cause her some problems if she does decide to breed. |
02-04-2007, 01:33 PM | #28 |
Love My Furbabies! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: somewhere
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| I don't see anyone's post as an attack. I think her previous posts were brought up just to illustrate why she shouldn't be breeding. It doesn't seem anyway that she took the advice to heart.. and that her mind was already made up to breed regardless of the opinions and wisdom of others. |
02-04-2007, 01:53 PM | #29 |
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| Thank You Yorkiedaze!! Thank you for posting your 35 steps to preparation! Those posts should be made into a sticky and kept for posterity. I appreciate the time and consideration you put into those posts. I know I will be keeping them. Thanks again for passing on your knowledge and experience!
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02-04-2007, 02:13 PM | #30 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Texas
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| Story of Warning!!! You must be very, very, very careful when she is in heat! This happened to me about 15 yrs. ago, and I have learned alot since : My AKC Chi came into heat when she was almost a yr. I allowed her to go in the back yard with our female Bull Terrier, who had been fixed before we got her ...so I had no experience with dogs in heat. She was wearing panties. I left them alone for no more than 5 min when I heard a terrible ruckus. I ran outside to find our Lab hurt and bleeding. The mutt next door, (gee, we had lived there for 5 yrs and I had never even heard this dog bark ... didnt even know it was there) had knocked down the redwood fence to get at her. It had mauled our BT, who was trying to protect the little Chi. And of course, by the time I got to her ... my little Chi was hung-up with that mutt. There was nothing I could do, it happened so fast. You cannot leave her unsupervised for 1 second unless she is locked in a kennel, seriously. Had to take the BT the vet for stitches ... $$$ Then had to wait a few a weeks to see if she was pregnant .... Of course, she was. Vet heavily suggested a doogie abortion ... said the other dog was too big. She would probably die from complications. So we did it, and with all the trauma went ahead and her fixed... $$$. It was much harder on her than just getting her fixed from the begining. The whole experience was very traumtic - and expensive, not to mention the cost of fixing the fence ...$$$, and fighting with the neighbors continued for years. You have to be completely diligent ... they will find a way to get together. You cannot be too careful. |
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