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Old 07-13-2006, 03:17 PM   #61
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This post has really confused me, lol.

I normally feed Royal Canin as well, but I think it makes my yorkies itch... so would Canidae: All Life Stages be a better alternative?

If so, I know this might be a stupid question, but if I get that does it mean both my puppy and adult dog could eat the same kind?
Yes, all life stages means that both puppies and adults may eat the same food. Makes it easy, doesn't it?
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This post has really confused me, lol.

I normally feed Royal Canin as well, but I think it makes my yorkies itch... so would Canidae: All Life Stages be a better alternative?

If so, I know this might be a stupid question, but if I get that does it mean both my puppy and adult dog could eat the same kind?
You betcha! You kill 2 birds with one stone. Thanks Canidae! (laughs)
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I just received a bag of Royal Canin 33 (puppy). Tonight I set out 3 little plates for Kona. 1-Innova Puppy 2-Merrick's Puppy Plate and 3-Royal Canin 33. Kona gobbled up the RC first then the Merrick's and then Innova. She likes all 3 but I think she like the RC the best, or it was something new so she was excited about that.
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Reese is not only overweight and basically inactive (at 4 years old next month) but she has a very sensitive stomach and seems to throw up every few days. She is not throwing up undigested food but bile.. sometimes clear and sometimes foamy. I am concerned about her doing damage to her organs since this has become pretty regular since I had changed her food to Wellness lite formular. It did not happen for several months but now it seems as if she is vomiting almost daily, two times daily.
Not to get you nervous, but are you sure this is because of the type of food she eats and not something wrong with her esophagus? Maybe its something you should discuss with your vet at the next visit.
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I just received a bag of Royal Canin 33 (puppy). Tonight I set out 3 little plates for Kona. 1-Innova Puppy 2-Merrick's Puppy Plate and 3-Royal Canin 33. Kona gobbled up the RC first then the Merrick's and then Innova. She likes all 3 but I think she like the RC the best, or it was something new so she was excited about that.
A lot of dogs (in my opinion) like RC. Maybe it's their hotdogs and hamburgers of dog food! LOLOL But remember, what's best for them (and humans) doesn't always taste the best.
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When I purchased Sadie, the breeder told me that Eukaneba was one of the best foods and that I should continue feeding her that.

As I began to do research, I realized that Royal Canine was much better and switched her over. Ever since the switch Sadie has been itching a lot. At first, I thought it may be dry skin or flees. I took extra care and the itching has not stopped. It isn't til not that I'm realizing that maybe she's allergic to corn!
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When I purchased Sadie, the breeder told me that Eukaneba was one of the best foods and that I should continue feeding her that.

As I began to do research, I realized that Royal Canine was much better and switched her over. Ever since the switch Sadie has been itching a lot. At first, I thought it may be dry skin or flees. I took extra care and the itching has not stopped. It isn't til not that I'm realizing that maybe she's allergic to corn!
She probably is. A lot of our furbabies are. I wonder why they still put it in the YT food?
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WoW! This is a relaly good post. Thanks to everyone for your input. I've been thinking about changing Sadie's food but have been so confused on picking a new food. I didn't realize so many yorkie owners were going through the same thing.

I just called a pet store near my home and they carry canidae! Yay! I will be picking some up tonight
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My vet is insisting on putting Reese on Hills prescription RD dry food. She said that it is healthier than Wellness and most other store available foods. When I read the ingredients online they seem to be horrible.

I had always been told or so I thought that any dog food with the first ingredient being corn meal is terrible. Of course that is the first ingredient. Also it seems filled with by products which wellness and others aren't.

Can someone please tell me other than greed, which I hope my vet isn't, would they advise this prescription only food. Secondly the nurse who works there told me that IAMs is just as good, weight reduction and is half the price.

Please help me figure this out and let me know if the hills RD prescription seems so much better than others, if even.

HILLS RD
Ingredients
Corn meal, peanut hulls 28.2% (a source of fiber), chicken by-product meal, soybean meal, soybean mill run, chicken liver flavor, dried egg product, vegetable oil, taurine, L-carnitine, preserved with BHT, BHA and ethoxyquin, minerals (salt, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), beta-carotene, vitamins (choline chloride, vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (a source of vitamin C), niacin, thiamine mononitrate, calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement).

Metabolizable Energy¹ (Caloric Content)
Dry 2699 kcal/kg (220 kcal/per cup ² )
¹Measurement of Usable Energy in a food, which differs substantially from gross caloric content.
² An eight fluid oz. measuring cup of Canine r/d® contains 2.9 oz. by weight.

Average Nutrient Contents
Nutrient
Nutrient Guarantee
% As Fed1
% Dry Matter2
% As Fed, Caloric Basis3
g/100 kcal
Protein 20.0 min 22.8 25.1 8.4
Fat 5.5 min 7.9 8.7 2.9
Carbohydrate (NFE) 34.5 37.9 12.8
Crude Fiber 26.0 max 21.1 23.2 7.8
mg/100 kcal3
Calcium 0.50 min 0.60 0.66 222
Phosphorus 0.35 min 0.49 0.54 182
Sodium 0.27 0.30 100
Potassium 0.73 0.80 270
Magnesium 0.122 0.134 45
Carnitine 200 ppm min 279 ppm 307 ppm 10


¹Differs from label guarantees which are either maximums or minimums.
²The nutrient in the product after moisture is removed. It is used to make direct comparisons of nutrient profiles of products with differing moisture contents.
³Nutrient intake for every 100 kilocalories consumed.



IAMs store bought weight reduction
Ingredients
Ingredients
Corn Meal, Chicken By-Product Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Fish Meal, Chicken, Dried Beet Pulp (Sugar Removed), Chicken Fat (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Ground Whole Grain Barley, Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Egg Product, Brewers Dried Yeast, Potassium Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Salt, Flax Meal, Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Source of Vitamin B1), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (Source of Vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), DL-Methionine, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), Fish Oil (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Choline Chloride, L-Carnitine, Rosemary Extract

Caloric Distribution
Protein 22%...Fat 27%...Carbohydrate 51%

Guaranteed Analysis

Nutrient (percent)
Crude Protein not less than 20.0%
Crude Fat not less than 10.0%
Crude Fat not more than 12.5%
Crude Fiber not more than 5.0%
Moisture not more than 10.0%
L-Carnitine not less than 30 mg/kg*
Omega-6 Fatty Acids not less than 2.00%*
Omega-3 Fatty Acids not less than 0.20%*


* Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profile.

Animal feeding tests using AAFCO procedures substantiate that Iams® Weight Control Formula provides complete and balanced nutrition for Maintenance.

Manufactured under U.S. Patent No. 5,616,569 and 5,932,258; other US and foreign patents pending.


Feeding Guidelines

Weight (lbs) Weight Maintenance (cups/day) Weight Loss (cups/day)
3 1/3 1/3
10 3/4 2/3
20 1 1/4 1 1/4
30 1 2/3 1 1/2
40 2 1 3/4
50 2 1/3 2


These guideline amounts are a starting point and your pet may need more food depending on age, activity and temperament. In order to reach optimal body condition, you may need to adjust food intake. This represents the total recommended volume of food per day. You should divide the total recommended feeding amount by the number of times you feed your pet per day to get the actual portion size per feeding.

Thanks once again for your help.
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I used to give my yorkies Royal Canine and they itched quite a bit.. since changing to Canidae, they have both stopped itching quite a bit. Also, Canidae is much cheaper than Royal Canine and I like being able to feed both my puppy and adult the same food.
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My vet is insisting on putting Reese on Hills prescription RD dry food. She said that it is healthier than Wellness and most other store available foods. When I read the ingredients online they seem to be horrible.

I had always been told or so I thought that any dog food with the first ingredient being corn meal is terrible. Of course that is the first ingredient. Also it seems filled with by products which wellness and others aren't.

Can someone please tell me other than greed, which I hope my vet isn't, would they advise this prescription only food. Secondly the nurse who works there told me that IAMs is just as good, weight reduction and is half the price.

Please help me figure this out and let me know if the hills RD prescription seems so much better than others, if even.

HILLS RD
Ingredients
Corn meal, peanut hulls 28.2% (a source of fiber), chicken by-product meal, soybean meal, soybean mill run, chicken liver flavor, dried egg product, vegetable oil, taurine, L-carnitine, preserved with BHT, BHA and ethoxyquin, minerals (salt, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), beta-carotene, vitamins (choline chloride, vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (a source of vitamin C), niacin, thiamine mononitrate, calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement).

Metabolizable Energy¹ (Caloric Content)
Dry 2699 kcal/kg (220 kcal/per cup ² )
¹Measurement of Usable Energy in a food, which differs substantially from gross caloric content.
² An eight fluid oz. measuring cup of Canine r/d® contains 2.9 oz. by weight.

Average Nutrient Contents
Nutrient
Nutrient Guarantee
% As Fed1
% Dry Matter2
% As Fed, Caloric Basis3
g/100 kcal
Protein 20.0 min 22.8 25.1 8.4
Fat 5.5 min 7.9 8.7 2.9
Carbohydrate (NFE) 34.5 37.9 12.8
Crude Fiber 26.0 max 21.1 23.2 7.8
mg/100 kcal3
Calcium 0.50 min 0.60 0.66 222
Phosphorus 0.35 min 0.49 0.54 182
Sodium 0.27 0.30 100
Potassium 0.73 0.80 270
Magnesium 0.122 0.134 45
Carnitine 200 ppm min 279 ppm 307 ppm 10


¹Differs from label guarantees which are either maximums or minimums.
²The nutrient in the product after moisture is removed. It is used to make direct comparisons of nutrient profiles of products with differing moisture contents.
³Nutrient intake for every 100 kilocalories consumed.



IAMs store bought weight reduction
Ingredients
Ingredients
Corn Meal, Chicken By-Product Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Fish Meal, Chicken, Dried Beet Pulp (Sugar Removed), Chicken Fat (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Ground Whole Grain Barley, Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Egg Product, Brewers Dried Yeast, Potassium Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Salt, Flax Meal, Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate (Source of Vitamin B1), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (Source of Vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), DL-Methionine, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), Fish Oil (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Choline Chloride, L-Carnitine, Rosemary Extract

Caloric Distribution
Protein 22%...Fat 27%...Carbohydrate 51%

Guaranteed Analysis

Nutrient (percent)
Crude Protein not less than 20.0%
Crude Fat not less than 10.0%
Crude Fat not more than 12.5%
Crude Fiber not more than 5.0%
Moisture not more than 10.0%
L-Carnitine not less than 30 mg/kg*
Omega-6 Fatty Acids not less than 2.00%*
Omega-3 Fatty Acids not less than 0.20%*


* Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profile.

Animal feeding tests using AAFCO procedures substantiate that Iams® Weight Control Formula provides complete and balanced nutrition for Maintenance.

Manufactured under U.S. Patent No. 5,616,569 and 5,932,258; other US and foreign patents pending.


Feeding Guidelines

Weight (lbs) Weight Maintenance (cups/day) Weight Loss (cups/day)
3 1/3 1/3
10 3/4 2/3
20 1 1/4 1 1/4
30 1 2/3 1 1/2
40 2 1 3/4
50 2 1/3 2


These guideline amounts are a starting point and your pet may need more food depending on age, activity and temperament. In order to reach optimal body condition, you may need to adjust food intake. This represents the total recommended volume of food per day. You should divide the total recommended feeding amount by the number of times you feed your pet per day to get the actual portion size per feeding.

Thanks once again for your help.
For some reason, and I don't know why....vets SWEAR by Science Diet! It truly is the #1 recommened by vets. There must be some secret Vet Science Diet society that we don't know about. Which...you made me think of a good thread. Thanks!
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I don't understand what the big fuss is about. All these costly dog foods have the same type of first ingredient, Some sort of MEAL! RC has the first product in their food as Chicken meal, Canidae also chicken meal, Hills RD Corn Meal, IAMs also Corn Meal. I know most of you will not agree with me and that is fine. But I'm putting my two cents again. I feed my three Purina one with chicken and rice and the first ingredient is Chicken, Not a meal! Yes it does have corn so if you dog or dogs are sensitive to corn this is not the food for them. I fed my westie Purina One and he lived for 15 years and never had any problems.
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The first ingredient in Meeko's Eukanuba is CHICKEN. I was looking at a bag of that new Purina Beneful and its first one is Yellow Corn Meal.
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I am new to yorkietalk, I have been searching around here for a while now and decided to join, as I want to get a yorkie very badly, I just can't have one yet. I have learned so much about this exciting breed of dog.

Anyway I have been researching about this dog food stuff and I think the Canidae brand sounds very good, it is rated high and is a good price, I just have one concern. Lacy'sMom had posted a link on what a yorkie needs in their diet (http://home.att.net/~wdcusick/YorkshireTerrier.html) and it stressed that yorkies shouldn't have vitamin C in their diet because of kidney and liver damage and the Canidae brand has Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) (min.) 50.00 mg/kg. Is this enough go cause damage to a yorkie?
The Inova brand does not have vitamin C and seems to be a very good choice. Any thoughts?
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is there any veggies in Canidae? all I seen were some fruit but not a lot.
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