pstinard | 05-04-2015 06:56 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom
(Post 4556139)
And is that backed by fourple-blind, longitudinal, repeatable to infinity, published everywhere studies that are agree upon by every approved scientist on the planet??? Or, not? (I'm not actually asking the question here, I'm just being facetious)
Look pstinard and megansmomma, this board is a FORUM, and it's owned by Admin -- who encourages and welcomes all opinions here, even those and especially those whose are not necessarily scientifically based -- because perhaps it's from those angles that we sometimes have the best discussions (where, in fact, science does often come to the forefront).
YorkieTalk is NOT a scientific community, so please do not make passive aggressive attempts or comments that insinuate posting anything other than science is all that's acceptable or valid here at YT. We are receiving an extremely disappointing amount of private messages from members who no longer even want to post here at YT for fear of being attacked if they're not posting something they can also back up with science. They are also fearful of posting anything whatsoever regarding holistic or natural treatments. This is unacceptable and we will not foster a community such as that. If you prefer a community that allows and encourages only scientific discourse, then this community may not feel right to you...that's up for you to decide.
YT encourages all members to feel welcome to post opinions, articles, and discussions of all kinds. If anyone cannot be/feel open to other avenues of treatment, vet care, or discussion -- then you may refrain from posting on said subject. Thank you. | I'm actually horrified by your post, and feel that it is an attempt to shut down discussion, especially with the comment that this forum is owned by Admin. I have NEVER attacked a poster for what they feed their dogs. I HAVE debated ideas and provided alternative points of view that are backed up by science. I will readily admit that the last chapter has not been written on canine nutrition.
I've reviewed the recent literature on weight loss in dogs as related to protein content. MOST of the articles subscribe to the concept that calories are calories, regardless of the source, and since carbohydrates have the same caloric content as proteins, the ratio doesn't matter so long as the dog's nutritional needs are being met with respect to adequate intake of essential amino acids. For those weight loss programs that include vigorous exercise, adequate protein intake is recommended to ensure that muscle mass is not lost. SOME articles suggest that higher protein diets reduce the dog's hunger during weight loss. Here is a quote from the 2014 American Association of Animal Hospitals Weight Management Guidelines for Dogs and Cats: http://jaaha.org/doi/full/10.5326/JAAHA-MS-6331 Therapeutic weight loss diets are formulated to contain more protein, vitamins, and minerals/calorie than OTC foods, ensuring adequate nutrient intake during caloric restriction. High protein may preserve muscle mass during weight loss and may improve satiety. As the effects of aging on protein digestibility are not well understood, senior pets may require closer monitoring of protein intake (and MCS) during weight loss. Therapeutic foods also may be lower in fat, higher in fiber, and/or higher in moisture to decrease caloric density. That allows clients to feed a greater volume of food with fewer calories. [emphasis mine]
Note that this higher protein content recommendation is for weight loss foods, not for standard feeding. The protein content recommendations for standard feeding are well-established, and have been reported previously in this thread. I'm truly sick of this thread, and feel that I have done my due diligence in reporting facts for the sake of Yorkshire Terrier health. It is well known that Yorkies have more than their fair share of liver and other health problems, so if I read some advice that *might* have an adverse impact on the liver, I point it out. Anyone can take it or leave it. |