All the RC talk...

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Harrysmum

What will you feed instead, Nancy? RC is Harry's go-to kibble, and now I'm not sure.... Sally + Harry x

I was choosing between Wellness toy breed Toy Breed Complete Health Adult Deboned Chicken, Brown Rice & Peas Recipe

and Wellness small breed Small Breed Complete Health Adult Turkey & Oatmeal Recipe and both have proteins as the first three ingredients. Toy breed is 30% crude protein and small breed is 28%.

I decided on Nature's Logic CANINE DRY KIBBLE - CHICKEN - Nature's LogicNature's Logic and there are many things I love about this food. Its a all life stage food and the boys are getting up in age, it's high protein, 38% crude protein, the carbohydrates come from millet and here are some of the benefits of millet:

1. Millet is alkaline and it digests easily.

2. The Hunzas – who live in a remote area of the Himalayan foothills and are known for their excellent health and longevity – enjoy millet as a staple in their diet.

3. Millet will hydrate your colon to keep you from being constipated.

4. Millet acts as a prebiotic feeding microflora in your inner ecosystem.

5. The serotonin in millet is calming to your moods.

6. Millet is a smart carb with lots of fiber and low simple sugars. Because of this it has a relatively low glycemic index and has been shown to produce lower blood sugar levels than wheat or rice. (Kamari and Sumathi, 2002)

7. Magnesium in millet can help reduce the effects of migraines and heart attacks.

8. Niacin (vitamin B3) in millet can help lower cholesterol.

9. Millet consumption decreases triglycerides and C-reactive protein. Scientists in Seoul, South Korea concluded that millet may be useful in preventing cardiovascular disease. Nutrition Research. April 2010; 30(4):290-6.

10. All millet varieties show high antioxidant activity. A team of biochemists analyzed the antioxidant activity; all varieties showed high antioxidant activity. Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, 9 June 2010; 58(11):6706-14.

11. Millet is gluten-free and non-allergenic. A great grain for sensitive individuals.

12. Millet’s high protein content (15 percent) makes is a substantial addition to a vegetarian diet. 12 Health Benefits of Millet | Care2 Healthy Living

Lol, I did some research on millet last night, I think I better buy some millet for me! All I knew about it before was that it was easy to digest. Those are the two main ingredients, it contains other things because they don't use synthetic vitamins and their vitamins and minerals are added through foods. The boys had no problem switching and I did a sudden food switch, there was no tummy upsets at all and this tells me that there food is easy to digest. Oh and the company has passed the AAFCO feeding trials and this is very important to me. Another plus is it's cheaper than Royal Canin!

[MarkFromSea]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

A couple of points on these ingredients. First they used chicken instead of chicken meal, this allows them to put chicken first because chicken is wet and weights much more then dehydrated chicken or chicken meal. When you see chicken first, look for chicken meal second. The other problem I have is their grain is Brewers' rice. Here's the definition of brewers rice.


Lastly, the have done something called ingredient splitting, so that the protein can be higher up the list than it should be. You can break down all food into three ingredients, protein fat and carbohydrates. Look at all the sources of carbohydrates in this food, brewers rice, rice, and oatmeal. Crude protein of this is only 25 percent, and old RC was 28.

Absolutely right! Unless I'm missing something. I hadn't looked at these more generic, multi breed, formulas before at RC so I don't know what they were. This was not the RC Yorkie 28 or the new RC Yorkie.

I do like the point of getting to the percentages... I suppose I'd have to go to RC's website for that and that is a very important step in selecting a nutritious diet for our pups regardless of the brand or formula that you choose.

In this posting, I was trying to point out something I was unaware of previously, the number of offerings RC has. By all means, don't even consider the breed specific RC Yorkie formula that is currently offered unless you are already using it and don't see a need to change of course, still a (clears throat) free country.

For the loyal or prospective RC customers, there are other options within the brand. I'm committed to my bag of Wellness Complete Health Toy Senior unless Gucci rejects it completely, at this point.

[Opium88]

that was the best one I found so far... determined to stay with RC, cause I tried Wellness, , Natural balance, natures recipe, Blue and Nutro and RC so far and they looked at me like i stole christmas with every single one except for RC. They carpet farmed, stalked the cats food, started eating the bark outside and just licked the wet food off that i tried to disguise the dry kibble with , but left the kibble. I tried wearing them out so theyd be exhausted and hungry and less picky. Nada. Nope. score Yorkies 5 Shawna 1. i scored once. With RC. So I am not looking forward to having to go through that again. lol.

[Opium88]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I was choosing between Wellness toy breed Toy Breed Complete Health Adult Deboned Chicken, Brown Rice & Peas Recipe

and Wellness small breed Small Breed Complete Health Adult Turkey & Oatmeal Recipe and both have proteins as the first three ingredients. Toy breed is 30% crude protein and small breed is 28%.

I decided on Nature's Logic CANINE DRY KIBBLE - CHICKEN - Nature's LogicNature's Logic and there are many things I love about this food. Its a all life stage food and the boys are getting up in age, it's high protein, 38% crude protein, the carbohydrates come from millet and here are some of the benefits of millet:



Lol, I did some research on millet last night, I think I better buy some millet for me! All I knew about it before was that it was easy to digest. Those are the two main ingredients, it contains other things because they don't use synthetic vitamins and their vitamins and minerals are added through foods. The boys had no problem switching and I did a sudden food switch, there was no tummy upsets at all and this tells me that there food is easy to digest. Oh and the company has passed the AAFCO feeding trials and this is very important to me. Another plus is it's cheaper than Royal Canin!

although maybe i might try this and see if they like it... Sounds worth a try at least.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by MarkFromSea

Absolutely right! Unless I'm missing something. I hadn't looked at these more generic, multi breed, formulas before at RC so I don't know what they were. This was not the RC Yorkie 28 or the new RC Yorkie.

I do like the point of getting to the percentages... I suppose I'd have to go to RC's website for that and that is a very important step in selecting a nutritious diet for our pups regardless of the brand or formula that you choose.

In this posting, I was trying to point out something I was unaware of previously, the number of offerings RC has. By all means, don't even consider the breed specific RC Yorkie formula that is currently offered unless you are already using it and don't see a need to change of course, still a (clears throat) free country.

For the loyal or prospective RC customers, there are other options within the brand. I'm committed to my bag of Wellness Complete Health Toy Senior unless Gucci rejects it completely, at this point.

There's an guaranteed analysis on every bag. You'll find crude protein, fat, fiber and moisture. I'm not seeing it at Chewy, but Petco has it under "ingredients" Petsmart also shows it. Royal Canin MINI Adult Dog Food - Adult Dry Dog Food from petco.com

[MarkFromSea]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I was choosing between Wellness toy breed Toy Breed Complete Health Adult Deboned Chicken, Brown Rice & Peas Recipe

and Wellness small breed Small Breed Complete Health Adult Turkey & Oatmeal Recipe and both have proteins as the first three ingredients. Toy breed is 30% crude protein and small breed is 28%.

I decided on Nature's Logic CANINE DRY KIBBLE - CHICKEN - Nature's LogicNature's Logic and there are many things I love about this food. Its a all life stage food and the boys are getting up in age, it's high protein, 38% crude protein, the carbohydrates come from millet and here are some of the benefits of millet:



Lol, I did some research on millet last night, I think I better buy some millet for me! All I knew about it before was that it was easy to digest. Those are the two main ingredients, it contains other things because they don't use synthetic vitamins and their vitamins and minerals are added through foods. The boys had no problem switching and I did a sudden food switch, there was no tummy upsets at all and this tells me that there food is easy to digest. Oh and the company has passed the AAFCO feeding trials and this is very important to me. Another plus is it's cheaper than Royal Canin!

I hope I remember to look this one up again when it comes time. I love it when someone does all the work for me! Years ago, I did a tiny bit o research on millet. Some states considered it a noxious weed because it grows so easy and is a prolific self seeder. (spreads easy)

[MarkFromSea]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

There's an guaranteed analysis on every bag. You'll find crude protein, fat, fiber and moisture. I'm not seeing it at Chewy, but Petco has it under "ingredients" Petsmart also shows it. Royal Canin MINI Adult Dog Food - Adult Dry Dog Food from petco.com

Thank You! That G.A. placement makes it much easier!

[MarkFromSea]

Originally Posted by Opium88

that was the best one I found so far... determined to stay with RC, cause I tried Wellness, , Natural balance, natures recipe, Blue and Nutro and RC so far and they looked at me like i stole christmas with every single one except for RC. They carpet farmed, stalked the cats food, started eating the bark outside and just licked the wet food off that i tried to disguise the dry kibble with , but left the kibble. I tried wearing them out so theyd be exhausted and hungry and less picky. Nada. Nope. score Yorkies 5 Shawna 1. i scored once. With RC. So I am not looking forward to having to go through that again. lol.

That's funny, score, yorkies 5, Shawna 1!

[Opium88]

Im witty when my tyrants are sleeping.... once they wake up Im just another baby talk babbling victim of cuteness... Ive got two hours of witty potential left to go before the awakening of the Yorkies... lol

[MarkFromSea]

Originally Posted by Opium88

Im witty when my tyrants are sleeping.... once they wake up Im just another baby talk babbling victim of cuteness... Ive got two hours of witty potential left to go before the awakening of the Yorkies... lol

Ha Ha! Where's the like button?

[Opium88]

Originally Posted by MarkFromSea

Ha Ha! Where's the like button?

That's the only thing this site is missing! Well, that and free bedpans with registration for new members who spend hours on here without getting up at all... Like me. My name is Shawna and I am an addict.

[BobbiB]

Originally Posted by MarkFromSea

There ya go! They split the rice but it's looking better!
Chicken meal, chicken, brown rice, brewers rice, chicken fat, corn gluten meal, dried egg powder, dried beet pulp (sugar removed), natural chicken flavor, dried brewers yeast, brewers rice flour, anchovy oil, soya oil, fructo-oligosaccharides (FOS), potassium chloride, flax seed, sodium tripolyphosphate, choline chloride, salt, Vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol acetate (source of vitamin E), L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), biotin, D-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), niacin supplement, vitamin A acetate, vitamin D3 supplement, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin B12 supplement, folic acid, riboflavin supplement (vitamin B2)], salmon meal, marigold extract (Tagetes erecta L.), Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], L-carnitine, preserved with natural mixed tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), rosemary extract, and citric acid.

I definitely liked these ingredients better, but is it a big deal that it is 8lbs to whatever the top limit was? I am quite certain Sheldon won't reach 8lbs. Hmmm...now I'm going to look around some more. Lol.

[Ellie May]

By-products may sound gross, but they are not automatically bad. I would feed the food unless your pup does not do well. It is not even close to an untested grocery store brand.

[MarkFromSea]

Originally Posted by Opium88

That's the only thing this site is missing! Well, that and free bedpans with registration for new members who spend hours on here without getting up at all... Like me. My name is Shawna and I am an addict.

Yep! LOL My name is Mark and I'm a yorkieholic! OR, a Gucciholic!

[MarkFromSea]

Originally Posted by BobbiB

I definitely liked these ingredients better, but is it a big deal that it is 8lbs to whatever the top limit was? I am quite certain Sheldon won't reach 8lbs. Hmmm...now I'm going to look around some more. Lol.

That, I don't know. Is it the kibble size or the formula, or both, that limits it to size of pup/adult/senior? I read in another forum about an adult eating kibble quickly and the kibble getting stuck above the stomach causing a blockage.... vet's advice for that dog was canned for the rest of it's life. All I could get out of that is, every dog is different... and... for me.... I'm emphasizing, leaning towards, the tiniest of kibble for my 5 pound senior. Even Fromm's grain free is too big for my dog, and that is small, smaller than Orijin by far. I'm ok with a filler that is fibre, gentle, because it's reccomended for us humans to keep things moving. I'm ok with a higher volume of poo associated with fillers or gentle fiber as long as it shows a normal shape and consistency, moisture. Most of the time, I can't even see Gucci's from 10' away, need to wear my glasses more often. LOL When he was consistently eating Nature's Choice? Nutro Toy Senior, he had good volume and consistency... but he quit eating it and here we are, searching for a replacement. I liked what I saw in Wellness Complete Health Toy Senior but I don't know if it'll be our long term choice. It's been a tough sell with my, our, little guy. We're doing the add a few chicken pieces and broth to keep his interest up, a bit of shredded cheddar cheese at times... it's frustrating at this point... I hand fed him the last of the Orijin the other day, I think THAT caused a MAJOR set back.... he wouldn't eat it out of his bowl the last couple weeks, but he did eat it out of my hand.... We're still walking 3 miles a day most days... I see a little less energy but he is eating less... If I can just get him to eat more,,,, I'm hoping his energy will pick back up. I'm thinking it's time to cook up a batch of salmon for him... I'm soooo confused! LOL Ideally, he'd eat his 1/2 cup of kibble and get his treats of chicken from his momma. Heading out for a walk, have a great day!