Thanks! I probably will do this.

I'm really glad Callie is doing so well. :)

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I want my Yorkies on healthy food and I honestly tried Blue Buffalo. I am not kidding, my boys had runny stools and I took them off of it. I had a gut feeling that blue buffalo was not as good as it is cracked up to be. Just speaking from experience as to what it did to my dogs. I f any company lies about their products they should be put out of business. Our dogs are precious and this should not happen. If it is true may they lose business and close doors.

Many company's lie about there stuff or just don't list certain ingredients. I have seen several treat packages that say made in The USA and then I flip it over and it say made in China in tiny print. The rules for dog food are not where they should be.

Update:The test results from each sides expert is in, this is a summery of what it contains:

Purina has produced their test results on Blue Buffalo pet food. Blue Buffalo has hired their own expert to refute it. The Pet Food Fight continues.
Purina hired their expert – James V. Makowski Ph.D. in February 2014. Dr. Makowski charges $250.00 an hour.

Not to be outdone, Blue Buffalo hired their expert Vinayak P. Dravid, Ph.D to refute Dr. Makowski’s findings. Dr. Dravid charges $300.00 an hour.
Purina’s Dr. Makowski provided his “Curriculum Vitae” – 8 pages in length.
Blue Buffalo raised with Dr. Dravid’s “Curriculum Vitae” at a whopping 66 pages.

Purina’s Dr. Makowski stated he was hired by Nestle Purina to analyze several Purina pet foods and several Blue Buffalo Pet Foods, but he “was not provided with any reasons, hypotheses, expectations, suspicions, or goals associated with my analysis.”
Blue Buffalos Dr. Dravid knew exactly why he was hired, “to provide a preliminary opinion about the scientific adequacy and reliability of the conclusions set forth in the Expert Report of James V. Makowski…”
Purina’s expert provided detailed explanation of his testing procedures and findings. Dr. Makowski stated he found “small fragments of egg shell, raw feather and leg scale” – which would indicate by-products.

Blue Buffalo’s expert seems to tear down every aspect of Purina’s report calling Purina’s science “rudimentary”, “inappropriate methodology” and found that Purina’s expert lab is actually located in a residence.
Even if you don’t speak ‘science’ (I don’t speak science) – when you read Purina’s report and Blue Buffalo’s rebuttal, it appears Blue Buffalo’s expert has the upper hand. Did Purina base a massive lawsuit on this evidence alone? Or do they have more cards up their sleeve they are not disclosing yet?

These two companies are dueling for market share. What a shame they aren’t fighting to see who can feed more shelter pets – or who can use the highest quality ingredients in their pet foods. Nope – this fight is simply about money. That’s the real crime.

These are the legal documents, they are pretty lengthy:

Learn the Truth Behind Purina's Junk Science

Preliminary Report, Independent Testing by Windsor Laboratories

Actually Purina does donate a TON of money to shelters and they have for years!

Shelter Pet Adoption - Rally to Rescue® - Purina® Pro Plan®

Hello all! Happy New Years. I recently read about this Blue Buffalo lawsuit. Interestingly enough, Bailey refused to eat the stuff when we first got him and BB was recommended. We couldn't figure out why, but now, perhaps we understand Bailey is a smart little guy. He is in love with the Fromm White Fish and Potato food. He went from finicky eater to licking the bowl after it's gone.

Hope all are doing well!

In the vein of money and ads and marketing....

Being a night person, I sleep late and stay up VERY late, not usually getting down until 2am or later. I am sooooooo over all the ads of the starving abused dogs and cats and horses featured by the ASPCA, running 2+minute ads, on an average of every 2 hours, on multiple stations, all night long. The money they are spending on this TV advertising bombardment , and you KNOW it is millions and millions of dollars.....could be spent on directly caring for the animals!!! They could run several ads on TV, on a couple of stations, then use the rest of the tons of money they are blowing on generating more money to be used on ADVERTISING and not caring for the animals, they could use it to upgrade facilities....provide food for their facilities.....provide pet food to Meals on Wheels, who feed our SENIOR citizens, who often have pets that they feed THEIR meals to because they can not afford dog/cat food.....the millions of dollars they spend over-saturating public TV with ads designed to get them MORE money to use on MORE ads......misappropriation of funds I think.....

There are publications that provide income recieved versus output of those resources and where that money ACTUALLY is spent within the organization....what percent is actually spent on animal care and what is spent on management, payroll, stationary, travel expenses for management, etc.......

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: I agree 100%

You can find that information at: GuideStar nonprofit reports and Forms 990 for donors, grantmakers, and businesses

Not sure why the update was not posted here:

Purina fires back at Blue Buffalo for back-peddling on by-products - Poisoned Pets | A look inside the pet food industry

Purina was right. Blue admitted it. It took Purina to hreak down the composition of Boue's food just as it took MSU to figure out Blue was causing illness with excessive vitamin D.

Mine was on BB and then months later started eating grass like no tomorrow, which wasn't normal for him. I got worried and was thinking about what is going on with him when I met someone who told me her friend had issues with BB and her Vet told her to take her dog off of BB immediately and long story short...I decided to switch. I switched to Purina One Smartblend, but now I'm having issues with him vomiting. Once in a blue moon he vomits if he eats grass but this is rare especially when he vomited 2 days in a row. Thinking it is the food perhaps and now undecided what to feed him since he's been on more foods than I can count~!

Personaly I would not support Purina they are the makers of the chicken jerky that was linked to hundreds or dogs deaths. It took them years to pull and now it's back. Not something I would want to support by buying there products.

Kibble is highly processed and can be difficult to digest for some dogs. You may want to consider one of the alternative foods available.

Maybe your right, cause when he vomited the first time it wasn't digested and the kibbles were blown up. It's not for a small dog as some are noted on the packages of dry kibbles. Also, I didn't know that about Purina either.

Oh NO! I switched to BB over a year ago. I will follow this closely.
What are the experts out there in YT land using, 'cause I need to switch his food then??

If your dog is doing well on Blue Buffalo, there is no need to switch. Our Bella didn't have any problems with it, although we did eventually switch over to Wellness Core Grain Free for small breeds. She is doing the same on Wellness as she did on Blue Buffalo.

I have been giving Max and Sasha the Blue Bits (training treats) from day one. They both love it and we have never had a problem. I don't use their food.

According to the package blue bits are:

"made with the finest natural ingredients, have no chicken (or poultry) by product meals and are corn, wheat and soy free."

That is why I chose this treat. Should I not believe them?

Good to know... thanks! I haven't noticed him not doing well on BB but, having said that, what problems should I be looking for?

Look for things like diarrhea or constipation, vomiting, low energy level, lack of appetite, and signs of allergy like excessive scratching and biting of the legs or other body parts. If your dog is healthy, playful, and has normal stools and a healthy appetite, he's probably doing fine. Of course, at any signs of illness, consult a vet.

The reason we switched from Blue Buffalo to Wellness Core Grain Free Small Breed is because we thought it might make Bella's eyes less watery. We haven't noticed any difference, but since she loves the Wellness Core, we haven't switched her back to Blue Buffalo.

Thanks for sharing that... sure good to know. Phew, my Bailey is doing well. I monitor his daily 'routines' to see of any change. So far, so good.

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I switched my dogs from blue buffalo to wellness. They had runny stool on bb. I just didn't feel that food was right.

Each dog is different. If you find a food that works for your dog, it's best to stay on it. Bella did well on Royal Canine, Blue Buffalo, and Wellness. Those are all good foods. Whichever works best for you.

I heard talk of bb using ingredients from China and to many of the life source bits have made dogs extremely sick. I would not use any of there products.

I remember than when a BB representative was posting on Yorkietalk, they were very cagey about the source of their ingredients. They would neither confirm nor deny a China origin, but swore that they tested their ingredients thoroughly, regardless of the source.

One thing that got me to change from BB is I bought a bag of BB that didn't have ANY lifesource bits in it. All of my other bags were fine. I've also heard of people getting bags that contained nothing but lifesource bits. It looks like they have issues with ingredient blending, or at least they did in the past. For those feeding BB, if the blend doesn't look right, take it back to the store for a refund. Hopefully BB has gotten their act together by now.

I just wish they would fix it so that the companies that stand to profit from using sub par ingredients in the first place weren't the ones in charge of ensuring pet food quality.


Seems like a Fox Hen house thing to me. WHat was the outcome of the lawsuit? I just posted a thread of suggested foods and BB was one of them. I'd hate to pst something inaccurate and will make changes if the suit was proven against BB. Anyone know?

I didn't know about the BB rep posting here but it concerns me about her being evasive about the origin of the ingredients. I'm glad I quit feeding it. we got a bag that was about 50/50 life source bits and kibble last summer. Daisy was having a lot of tummy upset. I was picking out life source bits by hand because it didn't look right. I called the company and the rep acted like it was no big deal, she said it happens when one of the chutes run out of either kibble or life source bits, then the bag fills up with the contents of the other chute. The rep admitted the the high number of life source bits were probably causing the tummy aches. Then we found out Daisy has some elevated liver enzymes but the vet can't determine the cause.

My vets don't recommend BB so I quit feeding it. Sorry if I posted this same info in this thread. I didn't go back and read the whole thing. But I was surprised to see BB on that recommended list of food.

Sorry, I misspoke. It was a Royal Canin representative who posted here. My memory is not as good as it should be :(. Here is the RC thread: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...questions.html

Thank you for the clarification. Speaking of memory not being as good as it used to be.....we won't even go there. Lol. I have the same problem, believe me.

My main problem with Blue Buffalo was the poor quality control. I am not happy with a company that will send food bags out that are mixed wrong. The rep said that the life source bits should be 7% or 8% of the bag. Their quality control is really lacking here if you ask me. They sent me a free bag of treats to compensate me. What about the pain my baby experienced with several days of tummy aches? And how do I know that the treat recipe was mixed correctly and it won't give my pooch a tummy ache? The rep stated that they are aware that the bags are mixed wrong when this happens. Her attitude was a flip.... "it happens". I guess they rely on the consumer to be their quality control. I returned the bag to petsmart and never bought it again. I am not happy with this company.

Oh, Castor and Pollux pulled that on me when I purchased a bag of food that was clearly not the right food. Well, actually mine was worse because they tried to tell me that the food was the same but the bag was different. No, the bag was the same and it was the wrong food...she got "flip" with me. I tossed it out. Not long after that, Merrick's bought them out and I totally refuse to give that company any business after viewing all of the recalls they have had. It was after that that I consulted with a vet nutritionist about what foods to use because I started getting really creeped out by all of these companies and the recalls.