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10-19-2013, 10:06 PM | #16 | |
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10-20-2013, 06:41 AM | #17 | |
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Turbo and I would get along very well. I love salmon too. How does this test work? It would be interesting to send in swabs from my boys who have no allergies, as far as I know.
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10-20-2013, 03:26 PM | #18 | |||
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OC Raw Dog is a raw dog food company here in CA. I like that they don't use too much bone or produce in their premade raw food. It looks very fresh (bloody juices & all), mine all love it. Quote:
I do trust this test since it's scientifically proven, it measures the antibody of the certain foods in the pet's saliva. High antibody = intolerance or sensitivity to that certain food(s). Quote:
I answered part of your question above. It's not swabs, but a string that you insert into the side of the pet's mouth & collect the saliva.
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11-01-2013, 04:34 AM | #19 |
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| Jenny, Thanks for posting all of this!! I'm finally getting Momo to the vet today for her allergies/yeast/whatever it is issues. But I think I'm going to try the Nutriscan test for her too. Thanks
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11-01-2013, 05:22 AM | #20 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member | Very interesting. I am curious. Galen did not poop as much with the California Natural or the CC. But he does poop more with the Sierra. Hmmmm
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11-05-2013, 09:17 AM | #21 | |
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I don't think a test needs to tell you what your dog can and can't eat when an elimination diet is free! I honestly feel that the best test of food intolerance and/or sensitivity is to try it on the dog. I have a dog with BOTH allergies and food insensitivity. When the allergy occurs, it goes like this: dog eats lamb, 20 minutes elapse, dog is covered in hives over more than 50% of her body and needs immediate benadryl and observation while I decide if I need a vet (usually we are good on benadryl). A food intolerance has been more vague....there are subtle symptoms ranging from dry heaving, to vomiting bile, to lose stools, to bloody stools (colitis), and occasionally itchiness. Egg is a very good protein, but if your egg is not pastured then there could be soy in the egg and the dog could be sensitive to soy. If you see "vegetarian feed" on an egg, it usually means the chickens are eating soy or grains. Cage free is another marketing play -- cage free does not mean pastured. I think you'd do well with home cooking - you could try one protein source and one carbohydrate source at a time until you determine what the dog is intolerant to. You would have no contamination of other ingredients that you potentially have in dog food that is mass produced and often made in a facility that co-packs and shares equipment. You could select how clean you want this food to be, and whether you want to buy it as fresh as you can from local sources if they are available to you. It is more expensive than a kibble diet, but can be cost effective when weighed against the # of vet visits you are making and the amount of aggravation you have with this problem. I obviously recommend and have reviewed here many times PetDiets - VNC putting your pet's health first .. for more than 20 yrs! -- this is a veterinary nutritionist who is highly sought after and a leader in the field of canine nutrition. She has an answer to every question I have ever asked her based on real science and her 20+ years of clinical experience in major top veterinary hospitals in the country. I wonder what she thinks of the nutriscan test. Maybe someone can pop on her "ask the nutritionist" portion of her website and ask her! She will answer, and if it is indeed something worthwhile, I will eat my above skepticism. Jenny, as always, good luck with the kids
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11-05-2013, 11:55 AM | #22 |
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| Thanks Cathy, I appreciate your input. I plan on homecooking (one of these days!) & will use petdiets/ BalanceIT. I've spent a great deal of time on that site & printed out a few recipes too. Just need to do it! I'm glad I did the nutriscan test for Turbo. He never had hives or obvious signs of allergic symptoms, he just throws up or has strange poopies. Sometimes he would throw up 2 days later & I would've never known that it was the chicken all along. I thought it was beef or pumpkin...it probably didn't help that I was giving him all sorts of different foods, made it harder to pin point what he was reacting to. I don't plan on repeating the test in 6 months to a year, unless he develops more intolerance, but I'll try to avoid that by switching up proteins. I read through the nutriscan site thoroughly b4 I made my decision. In their FAQs page, it explains how they measure the antibody: Q. How does this test differ from other food “allergy” tests on serum or feces? A. Food allergy tests measure antibodies to IgG and IgE in serum or feces. These are typically more acute allergic reactions to foods, whereas NutriScan measures IgA and IgM antibodies on the bowel’s mucosal surface, and thus more directly correlates to symptoms of bowel (GI tract) disease.
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11-05-2013, 12:12 PM | #23 |
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| Yes I read that too. Then I asked about it, and well, I didn't go for it.
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11-05-2013, 12:41 PM | #24 | |
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11-05-2013, 12:51 PM | #25 | |
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11-05-2013, 12:52 PM | #26 |
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| I forgot to welcome you to YT! Let's see some pics of your furkid!!
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12-03-2013, 09:20 AM | #28 |
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| Update Just thought I'd give a little update on Turbo...since removing all offending food(s) from his diet (according to the NutriScan Test), he has not thrown up once! He also had hard boiled egg whites a couple of x's & has not yakked that up either. I am now feeding him 2 x's a day as opposed to 3 x's a day. I am rotating pork, salmon, duck & lamb (mostly Party Animal canned food & ZiwiPeak air dried lamb- he's had venison b4 & it gave him soft poopies bc he's sensitive to it, wish they made more variety of different proteins). They get Pro Bloom probiotics w/digestive enzymes everyday, Beams from the honest kitchen once a week b4 bath time & unsalted sardines from Trader Joe's once or twice a week for the omega 3's. His hair is silky shiny soft, no more gagging or reverse sneezing or whatever it is he does like something is stuck in his throat, no more lip smacking & his poopies are a normal amount, very firm & formed. So far very good! Dr Dodds answers all my questions via email & still keeps in touch, just gave her an update on Turbo too. I am so happy that Turbo is doing so well!
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12-03-2013, 09:26 AM | #29 |
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| Oh yeah & he can eat pumpkin! Now I can give him foods w/pumpkin in it, I've been avoiding it bc I thought he was intolerant of pumpkin. Since eliminating boiled chicken breast from his diet (they used to get it as treats), no more throw ups.
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10-02-2014, 09:39 AM | #30 |
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| Almost One Year Update Wow how time flies when in good company w/Yorkies! Turbo is doing exceptionally well. Since last update, they're eating 100% premade raw food. Proteins are: Duck, Pheasant & Rabbit. I rotate the protein for every bag. Since Turbo has not thrown up or has shown any signs of food intolerance/ sensitivity, I will not get him tested again. If he shows any signs, I will not hesitate to get him tested via NutriScan.
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