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05-09-2013, 08:46 PM | #1 |
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| Patellas vs. Tracheas Hello, I'm not sure if I put this under the correct spot in the forum but it seemed appropriate since my concern is health related! I will be picking up my baby girl in a month and was curious on other peoples opinion on what I've been suggested. Apparently using a harness causes strain on the patellas which is worse than a collapsing trachea? Has anyone ever had problems using a harness? I'm not comfortable using a leash and at this point a harness either. |
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05-09-2013, 09:41 PM | #2 |
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05-09-2013, 10:43 PM | #3 |
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| I have never heard of a harness causing strain on patellas, but now that you mention it, if one is a puller (like Uni is), I would suppose that they would "put their back into it" and subsequently put stress on their knees. I think choking them is worse though. Ugh, this is a tough one.
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05-09-2013, 10:47 PM | #4 |
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| I don't see how using a harness would harm the patellas in any way. There is no way a leg problem could be worse than collapsed trachea. CT interferes with breathing and strains the heart and lungs. My boys have used harnesses for 4 - 5 years and they have healthy legs.
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05-10-2013, 07:09 AM | #6 |
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| The patella's is the back Knees and I don't see how a harness could hurt those. The trachea has to do with breathing so I would think that is most important to be careful about. I would never ever hook a leash to the collar it's just to risky. If for some reason they get luxating patella's from a harness which I think would be hard there is a surgery to fix that with collapsing trachea the surgery is still experimental and doesn't always work. Jumping would be worse for the patella's then a harness.
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| I forgot to mention...this is not only my first yorkie, but my first dog therefore I wasn't sure exactly which one would be worse and I'm still not actually. I've been told that a collapsing trachea is genetic. Thinking about it, if collars and leads caused this problem, wouldn't there be a lot of show dogs with collapsing tracheas? I guess dogs feel more free in a harness which causes them to start pulling. I definitely understand how this could potentially cause knee and shoulder problems I just wanted to know if anyone has ever had any experience with this. Quote:
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05-10-2013, 07:32 AM | #10 |
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| But it's on the back legs. I know this because my dog has luxating patella and had surgery to fix one of her knees.
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05-10-2013, 07:39 AM | #12 |
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| I'm sorry but I can't help but think your breeder is not a good breeder because good breeders of small dogs know never to use a collar for walking on a leash and your pup could very well end up with collapsing trachea later in life because of it. Dogs can be trained not to pull when using a harness and jumping is a much bigger problem for the knees then a harness. Collars also slip off very easy and if for some reason you would need to jerk your dog up because of a problem like a bigger aggressive dog you can do that with a harness but not with a collar.
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A dog and human can live without 4 limbs, but cannot live without an air passage. Plus, as I indicated above, CT puts stress on the heart and lungs. Quote:
If the theory is that a dog pulls only in a harness because it feels more free, then it would have to be acknowledged that the dog doesn't pull in a collar because the dog is being choked. Whether a dog is in a collar or harness, training is still required. Neither one magically makes a dog heel and walk properly. Show Yorkies do not wear a traditional collar. A lead with a wide swatch of material is used and the placement is a little different -- plus the dogs are highly trained. My Yorkies are larger -- 9 pounds -- but have the necks of a dog much tinier, less than 7 inches. No way am I going to put a collar & leash on a neck that delicate. I work hard to discourage pulling, but when the UPS truck goes by, and they snap at the ends of the leashes, I am thankful they are in harnesses. They also have pencil size legs and no signs of patella strain or damage after 4 and 5 years of harness use. Harnesses are also helpful in emergency situations. I can swing my small dogs into my arms and not worry that their necks are going to be injured. Patellas -- that has a lot to do with genetics, and activities like jumping from beds and couches and car seats. I am also not aware of many cases here on YT of front leg patella problems, which is where most of the pulling would be done. Dogs should and must be trained to walk properly whether it is in a harness or a collar. There is equal potentially to train.
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05-10-2013, 07:53 AM | #15 |
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| It's possible to have LP in the front legs, not common, is my understanding.
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