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Ldyrev1 01-20-2013 11:08 AM
Is this food complete or do you need to supplement?
 
Hi, this is Princess Sophie's mommy. I just placed an order for the Canine Caviar to be using a week after she comes home? I know you have to change any dog to a new food gradually. My question is, is this dog food complete? Do you need to supplement with anything when using this food??

mimimomo 01-20-2013 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ldyrev1 (Post 4111244)
Hi, this is Princess Sophie's mommy. I just placed an order for the Canine Caviar to be using a week after she comes home? I know you have to change any dog to a new food gradually. My question is, is this dog food complete? Do you need to supplement with anything when using this food??
Which formula did you get? They do have a puppy formula but it's for Large Breed...some of their formulas are all life stages, Chicken & Pearl Millet/ Lamb & Pearl Millet. The grain free versions say it's good for large & giant breed puppies.
It is highly advised not to switch food on a young Puppy, their digestive system is still developing & any additional stress is too much for them to handle.

mimimomo 01-20-2013 01:45 PM
I have a problem w/Canine Caviar's 'Cancer Research Foundation'. They use carrageenan in their canned foods & it is scientifically proven to cause cancer in lab rats.:confused: I've posted this (about carrageenan in some canned dog foods) in several threads & nobody seemed to be interested or cared loll.
Of course, I emailed them this concern & they never replied...along w/all my numerous other emails that NEVER went answered.

Ldyrev1 01-20-2013 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4111401)
Which formula did you get? They do have a puppy formula but it's for Large Breed...some of their formulas are all life stages, Chicken & Pearl Millet/ Lamb & Pearl Millet. The grain free versions say it's good for large & giant breed puppies.
It is highly advised not to switch food on a young Puppy, their digestive system is still developing & any additional stress is too much for them to handle.
I bought the Canine Caviar Holistic Puppy Chicken Grain-Free Dry Dog Food. I thought it would be best since it is designed for puppies. Gosh I hope I did the right thing. I understand about changing food on such a young pup and even though the breeder is feeding Purina Puppy Chow (Ugh!!!), we are going to ween her from that after a few weeks. We certainly don't want to upset her more than necessary just moving her from one place to another.

RileyDC 01-20-2013 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 4111069)
I know, I think RC is ridiculously priced too. At over $7 per pound... CC in the small bags is over $5 per pound. I think both are good foods, for different reasons, just over priced.

I checked both Wylie Wagg and Whole Pet Central
today and these are their prices for Canine Caviar:

Open Sky: $17.99
Wild Ocean: $15.99
and
Wilderness: $16.99

I paid $17.84, today, after taxes, for a bag of Wilderness.
I wouldn't call that Over priced.

RileyDC 01-20-2013 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by my2boyz (Post 4111107)
They have a toll free number on their site Brit...why don't you give them a call and ask? Or, you can do a live chat from the chewy site and ask them.
That's what I ended up doing and was very satisfied.
Lovespandp - Deanna also called and got excellent service. I know she was very satisfied as well.

RileyDC 01-20-2013 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RileyDC (Post 4111706)
I checked both Wylie Wagg and Whole Pet Central
today and these are their prices for Canine Caviar:

Open Sky: $17.99
Wild Ocean: $15.99
and
Wilderness: $16.99

I paid $17.84, today, after taxes, for a bag of Wilderness.
I wouldn't call that Over priced.

Their grain inclusives were even cheaper...

I also checked the prices for the Acana I used to feed and
They were a few dollars more. Granted they are 5lb bags but
Riley doesn't even eat as much of the Canine Caviar... I'm
Assuming because the calories are higher ... So the bags have
Lasted longer.

It's been a win win for me..
Hoping he continues doing as well as he has and if so it
doesn't matter the price. I will continue paying any amount.

Britster 01-20-2013 07:39 PM
Dang!! Our store charged me $21.99 w/ tax for the 4lb Open Sky bag!! I got jipped...

Even so, Chewy.com has the 12lb bag for $39.99. It's still pricey. I'm not trying to argue that the food isn't good ... I'm just saying IMO it's over priced for what it is. The Acana Singles line was pricey too, I thought. I paid $19.99 for the 5lb bags of that. Acana Wild Prairie, you can get 15lbs for $35.99. I always thought that was a good deal (the 5.5lb bags were $15 ish til they made bags smallr and raised prices uhgh). Same thing with Petcurean - Pet Valu near me started carrying their foods and the Go! Grain-free was $24 with tax for a 6lb bag.

RileyDC 01-20-2013 09:58 PM
You sure did!! That's crazy!! :thumbdown

Unfortunately it's the stores and online companies that Overprice it!
Everybody trying to make a profit...

I've been impressed with Wylie Wagg... They no longer carry it
in their store but said they would order me whatever I needed. I get
Their monthly newsletter which has a $3.00 coupon at the bottom...
I have Always LOVED the people I have dealt with at Whole Pet Central.
They even carry the 1lb bags of CC in all formulas.

MY OSCAR 01-21-2013 01:36 AM
Hi, i too am going to jump on the Canine Caviar bandwagon ..:D
Oscar has the itchys all the time.. No skin problems just itching..
I have RX shampoo, just use plain water in the spray bottle when grooming.
He does not get a lot of treats..
He is on an L.I.D kibble..
Although he did very good on the CC when i first tried it about 6 months ago(1 pound sample bag) i did not buy it again after that first bag because it was impossible to find in the stores..
I found the 4 pound bag of Chicken grain free so i ordered it..
After he goes thru that and if it gets rid of his itchys I will order the bigger bag...
We should have it Wednesday, wish us luck..:)

RileyDC 01-21-2013 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ldyrev1 (Post 4111558)
I bought the Canine Caviar Holistic Puppy Chicken Grain-Free Dry Dog Food. I thought it would be best since it is designed for puppies. Gosh I hope I did the right thing. I understand about changing food on such a young pup and even though the breeder is feeding Purina Puppy Chow (Ugh!!!), we are going to ween her from that after a few weeks. We certainly don't want to upset her more than necessary just moving her from one place to another.
My BFF down in Richmond did the Same Thing with her brand new teeny tiny Pomeranian Puppy!! Had No Problems and keeps thanking me up and down for telling her about the food! She said even her 2 Cats were eating it so she went and bought them their own formula of it!! :thumbup: :)

RileyDC 01-21-2013 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by my2boyz (Post 4111121)
Here's a page I found on the Dogaware site with information about the requirements of phosphorus and protein in dogs...it may be helpful on both sides of the coin:

Phosphorus and Protein in Dog Foods

If I'm understnding the information correctly, according to this page it looks like even the Buffalo formula is within range of what the maximum amount should be.
You are correct!! :thumbup:
I just bought a bag of Wilderness yesterday.
Excited to try the Buffalo when it hits the shelves!!

Ldyrev1 01-21-2013 08:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ldyrev1 (Post 4111558)
I bought the Canine Caviar Holistic Puppy Chicken Grain-Free Dry Dog Food. I thought it would be best since it is designed for puppies. Gosh I hope I did the right thing. I understand about changing food on such a young pup and even though the breeder is feeding Purina Puppy Chow (Ugh!!!), we are going to ween her from that after a few weeks. We certainly don't want to upset her more than necessary just moving her from one place to another.
So am I understanding everyone correctly? Did I purchase the wrong food? The instructions say it's for "small or medium breeds"? Do I need to get something else?? HELP!!!

RileyDC 01-21-2013 08:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ldyrev1 (Post 4112219)
So am I understanding everyone correctly? Did I purchase the wrong food? The instructions say it's for "small or medium breeds"? Do I need to get something else?? HELP!!!
Nope!
If you bought the Canine Caviar Holistic Puppy Chicken Grain-Free Dry Dog Food you got the right one!! :thumbup: :thumbup:

Britster 01-21-2013 08:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RileyDC (Post 4112092)
You are correct!! :thumbup:
I just bought a bag of Wilderness yesterday.
Excited to try the Buffalo when it hits the shelves!!
Did you see my post?

Technically, I guess she's "correct" but, just for other posters to know, before feeding a food with that much phosphorus (only the Buffalo and Ocean formula!):

Quote:
Originally Posted by Britster (Post 4111129)
The MAXIMUM phosphorus allowed according to AAFCO is 1.6%.

The buffalo formula is 1.5% MINIMUM. Meaning it could be a lot more. It also is 2.0% calcium. Wild Ocean is Calcium 2.4% min, Phosphorus 1.7% min. The other formulas are fine, the duck is low in ash.

For example, fats on dog food labels are on a minimum basis. A food that reads 13% could actually go as high as 19%. If you check out a food like Innova, they provide the *full* nutrient analysis and give you minimums and maximums.

A 1.5% or 1.6% *minimum* phosphorus content would make me extremely nervous in terms of kidney damage long-term.

Fromm Adult Gold has an ash content of 5.62% on an as-is basis, with phosphorus at 1.03% as-is basis.

Anything with a calcium/phos content of over 1.5% typically has very high ash as well.
I'm not trying to be a debbie downer, I just think it's important to know these details when choosing to feed a food! I never did before... so I know this is news to a lot of ppl.


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