How much boiled chicken??

[tem_sat]

Originally Posted by Bubbles Mom

Yes, definitely. I also picked up a recommended recipe from the vet yesterday so I will do that if I can't get her to eat anymore of the NF Purina.

The one thing I don't like about the recipe is that it suggests using Tums for a calcium supplement. I don't think she's going to like the taste of that mixed in with beef, eggs, rice and bread.

That diet makes sense to me for a dog with renal issues, as the goal is to feed foods which are lower in phosphorus (per Lew Olson), e.g. white meat chicken is higher in phosphorus than dark meat.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by tem_sat

That diet makes sense to me for a dog with renal issues, as the goal is to feed foods which are lower in phosphorus (per Lew Olson), e.g. white meat chicken is higher in phosphorus than dark meat.

It is not just about what foods, but how much of each and should be calculated based upon the weight of the dog. Too many people guess these things and often the pup gets more or less of something they need.

[tem_sat]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

It is not just about what foods, but how much of each and should be calculated based upon the weight of the dog. Too many people guess these things and often the pup gets more or less of something they need.

Agreed, though no details were mentioned.

[Bubbles Mom]

One "batch" consists of:

1/4 lb. ground beef
1 hard-cooked egg, chopped
2 cups cooked white rice
3 slices white bread, crumbled
1t (5g) calcium carbonate (TUMS)

add a balanced supplement that fulfills canine MDR for all vitamins and trace minerals (until I can order something online, I purchased a Senior Dog Vitamin supplement called "Healthy Select" at Petco)

Brown ground beef in skillet, add remaining ingredients and mix well (a little water may be added to improve palatability). Yields 1 1/4 lbs. Keep unused portions covered in refrigerator.

The feeding guidelines indicate Bubbles should eat about 3 oz. twice a day based on her weight (8 lbs.)

[BabyGirl Rosie]

Originally Posted by Bubbles Mom

Can that supplement be purchased at Petco?

I know this sounds expensive but it lasts a long time! https://secure.balanceit.com/marketplace2.1/index.php?

[Bubbles Mom]

Originally Posted by BabyGirl Rosie

I know this sounds expensive but it lasts a long time! https://secure.balanceit.com/marketplace2.1/index.php?

Thanks for the link!

[Bubbles Mom]

Two good news updates:


1. Yesterday I made a batch of the recipe the vet gave me for Bubbles. She ate about 1/2 of a serving last night and again this morning, and tonight she ate it ALL!! So happy she's eating again!!

2. We went for her follow up visit to the vet this afternoon, and her BUN went down to 58 from > 80. He really thinks Bubbles will make a full recovery.

Thanks to ALL for your prayers and support!!

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Bubbles Mom

One "batch" consists of:

1/4 lb. ground beef
1 hard-cooked egg, chopped
2 cups cooked white rice
3 slices white bread, crumbled
1t (5g) calcium carbonate (TUMS)

add a balanced supplement that fulfills canine MDR for all vitamins and trace minerals (until I can order something online, I purchased a Senior Dog Vitamin supplement called "Healthy Select" at Petco)

Brown ground beef in skillet, add remaining ingredients and mix well (a little water may be added to improve palatability). Yields 1 1/4 lbs. Keep unused portions covered in refrigerator.

The feeding guidelines indicate Bubbles should eat about 3 oz. twice a day based on her weight (8 lbs.)

Did you get this diet from a canine nutritionist? I'm a little confused as to why the white bread would be needed? Do you have any idea?

[Bubbles Mom]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Did you get this diet from a canine nutritionist? I'm a little confused as to why the white bread would be needed? Do you have any idea?

I have no idea.

The diet came from the vet's office...at the top of the page it says it's the receipe for the Hill's K/D prescription diet. It's a protein-restricted diet.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Bubbles Mom

I have no idea.

The diet came from the vet's office...at the top of the page it says it's the receipe for the Hill's K/D prescription diet. It's a protein-restricted diet.

Okay thanks, I know that sometimes they use things like white rice because it's easier to digest than brown rice, and I was wondering if it was the same with white flour.

[Deborah McGee]

Some of you who do home cooking-what kind of veggies are you talking about? I'm topping my bagged food with canned white meat chicken-Sweet
Sue brand from Food World. They are 10 for $10.00. But what kind of veggies are you talking about?

[Deborah McGee]

Can dogs have cooked oatmeal? Does anyone know?

[107barney]

Originally Posted by Deborah McGee

Can dogs have cooked oatmeal? Does anyone know?

Yes dogs can eat oats. I've had one be sensitive to it and land in the hospital on IV fluids thought so be careful and go slowly with whatever you do.

[107barney]

I've used that diet...it was an early diet given to me for my dog w/ liver problems. I think the white bread is to add calories and carbohydrates while being low residue. BTW, white rice is no easier to digest than brown rice, both are highly digestible sources of carbohydrates for dogs with little fiber.

I would consult with a vet nutritionist - a diplomate of the ACVN for your dog. I use Dr. Rebecca Remillard at the University of North Carolina School of Vet Med. Her consults are currently $50 and a diet formulation $100. She reviews your dog's case and consults with you and helps modulate the diet until your dog is on track.

By the way, any pet vitamin bought in a pet store is not a complete source of balancing for a dog with a home cooked diet. Those vitamins are meant for dogs on commercial diets, not for those on home cooked diets. It will not be sufficient to balance the meal. To be sure, don't take my word for it, do a consult and a professional veterinary nutritionist can tell you this information and whether these days there is a product that is suitable. To my knowledge, no over the counter product at the large box stores will do it. I have formulated my diets both with human supplements and with the BalanceIt product. None of the balance it diets for kidney disease can be purchased by you - you have to go through your vet. You can contact Balance It and ask Dr Delaney directly about it to be sure.

You also could contact Rayne Nutrition - tell your vet about it - they have a website as well - it's an industrial kitchen that makes up shelf stable or frozen foods for dogs w/ issues per vet recommendations. Two of my vets work with this company and really like it. Not sure on pricing, but they do have kidney diets.

Good luck.

[tem_sat]

Originally Posted by Deborah McGee

Some of you who do home cooking-what kind of veggies are you talking about? I'm topping my bagged food with canned white meat chicken-Sweet
Sue brand from Food World. They are 10 for $10.00. But what kind of veggies are you talking about?

I would check the sodium content in that canned chicken. It should not exceed 100mg per serving (4 ounces).

Here are the nutrition facts: Sweet Sue Chicken Nutrition Information | ShopWell