Home cooked diet for yorkie

[betterthanlife]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Board certified veterinary nutritionists usually don't sell dog food. That, however, doesn't mean they don't agree that Science Diet is a good food (because it is).

It greatly concerns me that owners are out on their own trying to come up with adequate diets for their pups. I used to do this. Completely regret it. So I hired a veterinary nutritionist who took care of the important details for me. I was then able to feed the ingredients I wanted, but with the vitamins, minerals, and portions she thought best (because she went to school for this for 10+ years and I did not).

There are many people that call themselves animal nutritionists. The problem with that is..where were they trained? Who is backing them? How do you know what they are doing is safe and correct? I could probably just put a website up right now and call myself an animal nutritionist. That doesn't mean I have any clue what I'm doing...

This depends on who the person is that is feeding the dog. I have seen people give their dogs all kinds of garbage. I agree that I would not trust most people to feed a dog properly. Also, there are a lot of appetite stimulants in processed foods. My dog ate when she was hungry, and stopped when she was full. This is what humans would do, if they ate proper food. My dog maintained a healthy weight her entire life. You must use common sense, combined with knowledge. I have done a lot of research on nutrition for myself. I eat extremely healthy. I can generalize some of my knowledge to how to properly feed a dog. I also need to augment this with some objective information about canine nutritional needs. This should not be too difficult.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Board certified veterinary nutritionists usually don't sell dog food. That, however, doesn't mean they don't agree that Science Diet is a good food (because it is).

It greatly concerns me that owners are out on their own trying to come up with adequate diets for their pups. I used to do this. Completely regret it. So I hired a veterinary nutritionist who took care of the important details for me. I was then able to feed the ingredients I wanted, but with the vitamins, minerals, and portions she thought best (because she went to school for this for 10+ years and I did not).

There are many people that call themselves animal nutritionists. The problem with that is..where were they trained? Who is backing them? How do you know what they are doing is safe and correct? I could probably just put a website up right now and call myself an animal nutritionist. That doesn't mean I have any clue what I'm doing...

I dont agree with you on the science diet but we will have to agree to disagree because I have done my research on it and came to my own conclusions also

[chachi]

Originally Posted by chachi

I dont agree with you on the science diet but we will have to agree to disagree because I have done my research on it and came to my own conclusions also

By the way before someone attacks me like they attacked Brit on the Hills warning thread. I am not someone that gets into food debates. I never tell anyone there food isnt a good one to feed. I just gave my opinon of science diet and I dont even normally do that. Pet owners dont think they are food nutritionalists but they are intelligent enough to do their own research and come to their own conclusions. No matter who likes it or doesnt like it its their right

[betterthanlife]

Just a thought: we best not abdicate our own eating practices to the FOOD INDUSTRY. This failure is evident if you look around. We must be our own advocate related to diet. To do this, we must educate ourselves. You do not need a degree in dietetics to do this. The same goes for feeding a dog.

[Yorkiedaze]

How can ANY pet food be healthy and balanced when it made from garbage and boiled to a stinky pulp. It isn't even government regulated and the rendering plants have TONS to hide. Just ask any one of them for a tour of their plant to see how the food is made!!! That will never happen!!!
I've home cooked for over 50 years and have never had one with pancreatic or other health issues.
There are no Vets. on this earth that are experts on dog nutrition. There has NEVER been a long term study on diet needs of dogs.
Please, I know I've posted this many times, but I'm sure there are some of you that are new here that have never seen this, so read these, and also buy the book titled FOOD PETS DIE FOR by Ann N. Martin. It's a must read if you care about the health of your pet!!

The Truth About Commercial Pet Food

What’s Really in Pet Food

Dead Cats And Dogs Used To Make Pet Food

The Disgusting Truth About Dog Food

[betterthanlife]

Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze

How can ANY pet food be healthy and balanced when it made from garbage and boiled to a stinky pulp. It isn't even government regulated and the rendering plants have TONS to hide. Just ask any one of them for a tour of their plant to see how the food is made!!! That will never happen!!!
I've home cooked for over 50 years and have never had one with pancreatic or other health issues.
There are no Vets. on this earth that are experts on dog nutrition. There has NEVER been a long term study on diet needs of dogs.
Please, I know I've posted this many times, but I'm sure there are some of you that are new here that have never seen this, so read these, and also buy the book titled FOOD PETS DIE FOR by Ann N. Martin. It's a must read if you care about the health of your pet!!

The Truth About Commercial Pet Food

What’s Really in Pet Food

Dead Cats And Dogs Used To Make Pet Food

The Disgusting Truth About Dog Food

AGREED, and thank you for your much needed input!
ALSO, your dogs are beautiful!

[Yorkiedaze]

Originally Posted by betterthanlife

AGREED, and thank you for your much needed input!
ALSO, your dogs are beautiful!

AWWWWW thank you so much. You know, I truly do believe YT has "THE" best looking Yorkie kids of any site!! Wish there was a way that ALL of us could have one big meet-up!

[betterthanlife]

I love their SANTA pic! Tell SANTA to omit the bones from CHINA

[Ellie May]

Nobody said you all should start feeding SD. The only reason it came up in this thread is because somebody asked if veterinary nutrionists sold foods like that. The answer is no, they generally do not. However, that doesn't mean they don't like them. What I was saying is, if you don't like that vets use SD, then you probably aren't going to like veterinary nutritionists very much.

I also didn't say that cooking for your dogs is a bad thing. I did it for quite awhile. Completely agree with it if it's done properly. That said, my dog didn't always do well on it. It was far from a miracle. And don't expect that dogs who gets homecooked foods will be exempt from pancreatitis. That is just not true. My dog needed hydrolyzed, meatless food, so she is doing much better on Purina "death nuggets". I'll take their "garbage" ingredients any day over a dead dog. And yes, everybody always says they don't mean rx foods, but then that means you'd trust a company with your sick dog and say how horrible the food is when they're healthy?

Anyway, I see no problem with homecooking for dogs. If you want to go out and do it yourself, that is certainly your decision. It is not a decision that can be supported by the experts in the field, however. It isn't good or safe science and it bothers me that people could read threads like this and just start homecooking regularly without consulting a professional (because they are being told that's not really necessary). I'd would just say to them - please look up and read about some of the ill effects of feeding dogs (especially puppies) unbalanced diets long-term. There could be serious consequences if it is done incorrectly.

[betterthanlife]

So-called "experts" are in this for financial gain, and their advice is geared towards their best interest. Read the latest research on the value of colonoscopies and mammography. The so-called experts will be out of business if enough intelligent people start to heed sound advice.

Just because a person may not agree with not feeding a dog commercial dog food, this does not erase the dangers of it. These issues must be separated. We must think critically and logically. Once it is established that commercial dog food has considerable issues, then one must brainstorm different solutions. One of those, is educating yourself, and making your own food. Done properly, it is a viable solution to commercial pet-food poison.

[ladyjane]

Agree with Ellie Mae. That said, I am not going to bat my head against a wall here. What I will say is that the vet nutritionist I consulted with is at Texas A&M and his credentials are impressive. He did NOT tell me what food to feed my pups....he gave me the tools to pick a good and safe food. Now, in the case of a sick pup I had a few years ago, he did give me a homecooked recipe for him. I would never think for one minute that I knew more about animal nutrition than this vet....or for that matter, ANY vet. These people are highly educated...they don't "research" on the web. I really think that the "rumors" about how little they know is laughable.

One further comment: No one bashed Brit. Everyone simply tried to explain something to her and others. It was all educational for those who care to have an open mind and learn. I hope it helps the quiet, the people who lurk...they need to see both sides of the discussion. We already know who will not listen and learn.

[chachi]

Oh I see no I didnt mean RX foods either. for me it comes down to choice not not trusting the company, if I have the choice Im not feeding a dog of mine a food with those ingredients. If a dog is sick and needs that food well then whats your choice you have to feed it. Im not anti science diet Ive never seen anything to say you cant trust them I just dont like their ingredients

[chachi]

Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze

How can ANY pet food be healthy and balanced when it made from garbage and boiled to a stinky pulp. It isn't even government regulated and the rendering plants have TONS to hide. Just ask any one of them for a tour of their plant to see how the food is made!!! That will never happen!!!
I've home cooked for over 50 years and have never had one with pancreatic or other health issues.
There are no Vets. on this earth that are experts on dog nutrition. There has NEVER been a long term study on diet needs of dogs.
Please, I know I've posted this many times, but I'm sure there are some of you that are new here that have never seen this, so read these, and also buy the book titled FOOD PETS DIE FOR by Ann N. Martin. It's a must read if you care about the health of your pet!!

The Truth About Commercial Pet Food

What’s Really in Pet Food

Dead Cats And Dogs Used To Make Pet Food

The Disgusting Truth About Dog Food

Now Ive given my dogs people things like a piece of white meat turkey or chicken etc and Ive never had a problem either. But on here Ive seen where someone just gave their dog a piece of white meat turkey and it have a pancreatic attack. Or someone give their dogs people food for years and they were fine and then all of a sudden they have a pancreatis episode. So not all dogs have the same digestive tolerence. I used to be one to tell people on here a little turkey isnt gonna hurt them but no more

[candigirl]

I remember the first time i took Lexie to the vet he sent me home with a huge bag of Science Diet Puppy and raved about how amazing it was. First 3 ingredients on the bag: Whole grain corn,Chicken by-product meal, Animal fat(im guessing sprayed on for flavour), ick!. I had her on premium kibble for a while (Orijen,Acana) then freeze dried raw and now Prey model Raw. Through thorough research i've made the choice that i feel is best for my dog, my new vet knows how i feed and though its a rarity to him he supports it 100%

[Ellie May]

I think it's great that you found a food that your pup thrives on.

...but then there is the big debate about avoiding kibble with by-products because it's so bad. Yet Champion is one of the best. They use waste "meat" in their foods that would otherwise be sent to rendering. Teh only difference is that it is sorta fresh. It's still nothing that would even go in fishsticks for humans. It's a by-product. So do we really even know what these great companies are putting in their foods..