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107barney 08-10-2011 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tem_sat (Post 3629403)
We will start over...

Crystal, and I quote, stated:



Possibly that line may have been intended to mean, "They HAVE advertised human grade meat". If they no longer do it, then they don't do it. It is up to the consumer to make that determination via independent reasearch and direct inquiries.

Whether they HAVE or they ARE doesn't matter. I think Crystal's main message was that she doesn't like that kind of trickery - past or present.

Ellie May 08-10-2011 09:27 AM
Yes, the word should have been "did", not "do". It appears that they took that terminology off of their website so they wouldn't open themselves up to more legal issues over questionable advertising practices. So I was wrong. Not sure why it took a lawsuit to properly describe their products, but whatever works for them.. Now it is obvious that at least some of their meat may not be fit for human consumption when they led people to believe otherwise.

There is nothing wrong with the phrase "human grade" as long as the company is explaining what they mean and not intentionally misleading people.

tem_sat 08-10-2011 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3629408)
Whether they HAVE or they ARE doesn't matter. I think Crystal's main message was that she doesn't like that kind of trickery - past or present.
I am just making an effort to be precise in terms of the original line used.

Maximo 08-10-2011 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by tem_sat (Post 3629424)
I am just making an effort to be precise in terms of the original line used.
If dog food manufacturers would make the same effort to be precise, choosing a pet food would be a lot easier. :)

tem_sat 08-10-2011 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3629423)
Yes, the word should have been "did", not "do". It appears that they took that terminology off of their website so they wouldn't open themselves up to more legal issues over questionable advertising practices. So I was wrong. Not sure why it took a lawsuit to properly describe their products, but whatever works for them.. Now it is obvious that at least some of their meat may not be fit for human consumption when they led people to believe otherwise.

There is nothing wrong with the phrase "human grade" as long as the company is explaining what they mean and not intentionally misleading people.
Simple:

Dear [insert name of PFC here],

You claim your meats are sourced from "human grade" processing facilities. Do you denature your meats?

YES | NO

If the answer is "NO", then NO they are not "fit for human consumption".

tem_sat 08-10-2011 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by maximo (Post 3629425)
if dog food manufacturers would make the same effort to be precise, choosing a pet food would be a lot easier. :)
Amen to that.

Maximo 08-10-2011 09:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tem_sat (Post 3629427)
Amen to that.
I believe that was Crystal's point from the start.

107barney 08-10-2011 09:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tem_sat (Post 3629424)
I am just making an effort to be precise in terms of the original line used.
You are making an effort to follow Crystal around, let's call it what it is!
Seriously.

tem_sat 08-10-2011 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3629432)
You are making an effort to follow Crystal around, let's call it what it is!
Seriously.
Pardon? If you prefer, I will be happy to read and not respond.

As you wish,

Tara

107barney 08-10-2011 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tem_sat (Post 3629436)
Pardon? If you prefer, I will be happy to read and not respond.

As you wish,

Tara

Oh no, I don't think you have to take your toys and go home. I did not mean to sound unwelcoming. I find it odd that you have a doxie and you like our little yorkie community but I know from a friend with a doxie that there are just few arenas as active as ours. It's just that Crystal is a beloved YT member who is always helping everyone - hence the thread title being dedicated to her. So when you are trying to poke holes in her words and discredit her, many of us just don't like that. You kind of came on her with an attack on crystal to begin with so obviously some of us are remembering that.

tem_sat 08-10-2011 10:06 AM
No problem, I will just read...or not as the case may be.

Thank you,

Tara

Ichabob 08-10-2011 10:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3629453)
Oh no, I don't think you have to take your toys and go home. I did not mean to sound unwelcoming. I find it odd that you have a doxie and you like our little yorkie community but I know from a friend with a doxie that there are just few arenas as active as ours. It's just that Crystal is a beloved YT member who is always helping everyone - hence the thread title being dedicated to her. So when you are trying to poke holes in her words and discredit her, many of us just don't like that. You kind of came on her with an attack on crystal to begin with so obviously some of us are remembering that.
:thumbup::

hugz4all4 08-10-2011 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3629453)
Oh no, I don't think you have to take your toys and go home. I did not mean to sound unwelcoming. I find it odd that you have a doxie and you like our little yorkie community but I know from a friend with a doxie that there are just few arenas as active as ours. It's just that Crystal is a beloved YT member who is always helping everyone - hence the thread title being dedicated to her. So when you are trying to poke holes in her words and discredit her, many of us just don't like that. You kind of came on her with an attack on crystal to begin with so obviously some of us are remembering that.

:thumbup::thumbup:

Ellie May 08-10-2011 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tem_sat (Post 3629426)
Simple:

Dear [insert name of PFC here],

You claim your meats are sourced from "human grade" processing facilities. Do you denature your meats?

YES | NO

If the answer is "NO", then NO they are not "fit for human consumption".
Quote:
Originally Posted by tem_sat (Post 3629484)
No problem, I will just read...or not as the case may be.

Thank you,

Tara
That could work, but the average consumer doesn't know to do this, unfortunately. I'm not a sue happy person in the least, but I am glad to see somebody standing up and saying this kind of advertising is wrong.

On the other thing, yes, I'm still not sure why the first post on YT would be to disagree with a post or why one word in one post out of my many in this thread is a problem, but maybe I'm missing something. I'll PM you.

_Chrissy_ 08-12-2011 08:44 PM
I have really been giving this thread & discussion about SD some thought...

Has any one ever even brought up the fact that IF there was an urgent recall that a BIG company like SD can get the recall out to consumers MUCH faster than the smaller Holistic companies??? :thumbup::thumbup:

I had never thought of this issue before. It is huge to me.
Would that make me switch from Fromm or Acana to say SD? I am starting to think the answer is yes.

When this bag of Fromm is gone I am going to give SD a try.


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