YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community
Page 7 of 7 « First 3456 7
Show 30 post(s) from this thread on one page

YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/index.php)
-   Yorkie Health & Diet (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yorkie-health-diet/)
-   -   Over vaccinating (https://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yorkie-health-diet/196562-over-vaccinating.html)

JeanieK 02-20-2010 07:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3010428)
oh and just wanted to say NEVER GIVE THE DENTAL VACCINE that is new and bad side effects - a dentist we saw gave it to a big dog and dog went lame in that leg and she still thought i should give to demi so i ran real fast went to another dentist and he refuses to give that vaccine so we used him -whew

I have heard they give vaccines in limbs because they can amputate if a problem like cancer have you heard this ?
:eek:OMG no have not heard that. Wouldn't it be better to risk having to pull teeth.

BTW I use the Petz for life oral spray snd it works wonderful.

I was just using it once a week on bath days, they would get teeth brushed and a spray of this stuff. I had one that got real bad tarter, so started using it daily on her, at bedtime. and it has worked wonders, half of the tarter is now gone.

You could start as thread on the in breeding, although if done by a reputable breeder who has studied the genetics of the line, and have had their dogs tested for genetic disorders, it can be done safely. It definitely should be left to the experts. a novice should never do this.

dwerten 02-20-2010 07:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3010448)
:eek:OMG no have not heard that. Wouldn't it be better to risk having to pull teeth.

BTW I use the Petz for life oral spray snd it works wonderful.

I was just using it once a week on bath days, they would get teeth brushed and a spray of this stuff. I had one that got real bad tarter, so started using it daily on her, at bedtime. and it has worked wonders, half of the tarter is now gone.

You could start as thread on the in breeding, although if done by a reputable breeder who has studied the genetics of the line, and have had their dogs tested for genetic disorders, it can be done safely. It definitely should be left to the experts. a novice should never do this.
well i thought that stuff was great too but used it for one year on my malt and she had to have 27 extractions as i should have had dental done the year prior :( I now use chlorhexedine wipes from drs foster and smith now

there is no genetic marker for liver shunt though and 38% of yorkies have liver issues :( so no way to make sure it is not in the line

Becca1 02-20-2010 07:34 AM
So well said - I totally agree. We also have a Sheltie and have had this discussion many times with our Sheltie breeder and they now titer their dogs before any vaccinations are done. AKC should step up to the plate on this.


Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3010331)
I agree it is going to take time. It seems odd to me aslso that 3 suddenly had a reaction.

I would like to see the AKC and the breed clubs start to lobby for some change. But it is probalby just going to take the general pet owner to make their own decision on it.

If there was this much proof in human vaccines they would have changed a long time ago.

In my opinion the AKC is going about it backwards. They spend a lot of money on research trying to find cures for hereditary diseases instead of lobbying for laws against pets being sold by brokers and pet stores. so we can stop the breeding of dogs with these diseases.

That, in turn, would decrease the number of unwanted dogs.

I kind of got side tracked there, my point being the biggest animal organization in the country would have influence on the laws governing the health of our dogs.

So instesd of using dogs for testing new vaccines, in order to fix the problem, lets just get rid of the problem.

JeanieK 02-20-2010 09:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3010455)
well i thought that stuff was great too but used it for one year on my malt and she had to have 27 extractions as i should have had dental done the year prior :( I now use chlorhexedine wipes from drs foster and smith now

there is no genetic marker for liver shunt though and 38% of yorkies have liver issues :( so no way to make sure it is not in the line
Well probably no way to be sure it was never in the line, but if you know the history for 5 or 6 generations bsck, chances are prettry good that it is not there. But the problem is, that some show breeders do not care what is going on inside as long as they can make them look good on the outside.

hugz4all4 02-20-2010 10:57 AM
After my dogs get thier year old booster (Tuck just had his done today) they only get vaxed every 3 years when they need their rabies, ONLY because its the law here. My Sheltie had a nasty "skin burn" from the rabies shot he had 2 years ago that took forever to go away and IM very reluctant for him to get it again, but Im not sure how to get out of it, because he needs it to be reliscensed. When they are vaxed they get everything though including the lepto and thank heavens we havent had any issues.. (i didnt no how dangerous it was untill yt, but because of where I live I feel its nessacary).
The articles posted are scary. It certianly opened my eyes!!

Flower003 02-21-2010 10:51 AM
Out of curiosity, since it is generally believed that maternal antibodies are gone after 16 to 20 weeks, what happens if a puppy has not had their vaccinations by 16 to 20 weeks? Does a puppy still need three to four rounds of Vaccines to be safe???? I’ve read the links and they say one is sufficient once the mother’s antibodies no long interfere. since we do know exactly when the mothers anitbodies are going to dissapear what are your views on just vaccinating once after 16 weeks?

Also, what if you get a dog at an older age and you do not know if the dog has had any vaccinations how many rounds of vaccines do they need? I know the links say one is good, but what are your views on this?

Ellie May 02-21-2010 10:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flower003 (Post 3011809)
Out of curiosity, since it is generally believed that maternal antibodies are gone after 16 to 20 weeks, what happens if a puppy has not had their vaccinations by 16 to 20 weeks? Does a puppy still need three to four rounds of Vaccines to be safe???? I’ve read the links and they say one is sufficient once the mother’s antibodies no long interfere. since we do know exactly when the mothers anitbodies are going to dissapear what are your views on just vaccinating once after 16 weeks?

Also, what if you get a dog at an older age and you do not know if the dog has had any vaccinations how many rounds of vaccines do they need? I know the links say one is good, but what are your views on this?
If you start at 16 weeks or after, I personally would do 2.

JeanieK 02-21-2010 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3011814)
If you start at 16 weeks or after, I personally would do 2.
I think 2 would be good if you start after 16 weeks, but I would not wait that long to give them. I have never heard that the mothers immunity lasts 16 weeks, so it would be risky to wait that long

zcb 02-22-2010 05:19 PM
This thread is totally freaking me out because Scooter has an appointment tomorrow to receive his yearly vaccines. I've decided to only give him the rabies vaccine and that's because our county mandates it. I've never had a problem with fleas although we live in Florida so I don't have to give him any flea preventative. I do, however, have to give him a monthly heartworm medication because heartworms are a very serious threat to all dogs here in the South.

My last 2 dogs, Shih Tzus, both had numerous cysts in the shoulder area where they received years of vaccinations. I've always thought there was a connection but the vet said no. I don't believe her. :mad:

livingdustmops 02-22-2010 05:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zcb (Post 3013823)
This thread is totally freaking me out because Scooter has an appointment tomorrow to receive his yearly vaccines. I've decided to only give him the rabies vaccine and that's because our county mandates it. I've never had a problem with fleas although we live in Florida so I don't have to give him any flea preventative. I do, however, have to give him a monthly heartworm medication because heartworms are a very serious threat to all dogs here in the South.

My last 2 dogs, Shih Tzus, both had numerous cysts in the shoulder area where they received years of vaccinations. I've always thought there was a connection but the vet said no. I don't believe her. :mad:
This has been posted numerous times...

http://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocumen...s06Revised.pdf

I am very concerned people won't do their homework in regards to vaccinations and also sit down and talk to their vet for the choices they are thinking of making.

This is a very serious decision and you easily could lose your dog if you just do what is written on YT and the advise people are giving. Do your homework and do your research...you owe to your dog(s).

Ellie May 02-22-2010 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3010428)
oh and just wanted to say NEVER GIVE THE DENTAL VACCINE that is new and bad side effects - a dentist we saw gave it to a big dog and dog went lame in that leg and she still thought i should give to demi so i ran real fast went to another dentist and he refuses to give that vaccine so we used him -whew

I have heard they give vaccines in limbs because they can amputate if a problem like cancer have you heard this ?
This is very true, esp. in cats (better outcome if the leg can be amputated due to fibrosarcoma).

dwerten 02-22-2010 06:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3013864)
This is very true, esp. in cats (better outcome if the leg can be amputated due to fibrosarcoma).
Yeah when i took dd to hospital on sunday I saw a dog 11 years old a husky with an amputated front right leg and she said he had cancer in the top of the shoulder bone - it just made me think where were the vaccines given :(

where do they give vaccinations anyway as mine were taken to another room back then when given just curious

Ellie May 02-22-2010 06:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3013888)
Yeah when i took dd to hospital on sunday I saw a dog 11 years old a husky with an amputated front right leg and she said he had cancer in the top of the shoulder bone - it just made me think where were the vaccines given :(

where do they give vaccinations anyway as mine were taken to another room back then when given just curious
For dogs, rabies is given in the top of the right hind leg (right for rabies to remember). Most others are given subq around the shoulder blades.

dwerten 02-22-2010 06:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3013899)
For dogs, rabies is given in the top of the right hind leg (right for rabies to remember). Most others are given subq around the shoulder blades.
interesting as this dogs was right shoulder blade and my friends cocker has a pancake cancer on butt and the vet removed it and it grew back within months so he is on chemo for the cancer so i asked her where was he being vaccinated so i am thinking possibility of rabies in his case as he is a young dog like 7 or 8 - it is such a tough thing as you want to protect them but then you do not want to get them sick :(

when i told her to ask where he was vaccinating he lied as she told me he did all of them in the shoulder blades :( so the rabies is given where he has the cancer - this is the same vet that messed up my dd with metacam and steroids mixture :(

JeanieK 02-23-2010 05:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 3013947)
interesting as this dogs was right shoulder blade and my friends cocker has a pancake cancer on butt and the vet removed it and it grew back within months so he is on chemo for the cancer so i asked her where was he being vaccinated so i am thinking possibility of rabies in his case as he is a young dog like 7 or 8 - it is such a tough thing as you want to protect them but then you do not want to get them sick :(

when i told her to ask where he was vaccinating he lied as she told me he did all of them in the shoulder blades :( so the rabies is given where he has the cancer - this is the same vet that messed up my dd with metacam and steroids mixture :(
That is very scary. It would probably help if they used different sites.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:18 PM.
Page 7 of 7 « First 3456 7
Show 30 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2003 - 2018 YorkieTalk.com
Privacy Policy - Terms of Use


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075 1076 1077 1078 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1092 1093 1094 1095 1096 1097 1098 1099 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 1106 1107 1108 1109 1110 1111 1112 1113 1114 1115 1116 1117 1118 1119 1120 1121 1122 1123 1124 1125 1126 1127 1128 1129 1130 1131 1132 1133 1134 1135 1136 1137 1138 1139 1140 1141 1142 1143 1144 1145 1146 1147 1148 1149 1150 1151 1152 1153 1154 1155 1156 1157 1158 1159 1160 1161 1162 1163 1164 1165 1166 1167 1168