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rachelanne820 · 11-26-2009, 08:25 PM

Do you vaccinate for lepto? I have heard yorkies shouldn't get it but I've heard all dogs need it.

Wrenee4 · 11-26-2009, 08:30 PM

We do not get it for any of our dogs and our vet doesn't give it unless requested. They don't even give it to their own dogs! It depends on your area though....if there are cases of lepto it might be needed. If you were to get it I would just stay at the vet office a little longer to make sure there isn't a reaction.

mimimomo · 11-26-2009, 08:33 PM

Here's a good link that explains all the vaccines: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-overview.html

livingdustmops · 11-27-2009, 05:41 AM

It can kill a Yorkie so do your homework. If it is in your area and the shot is needed then you should plan to stay at the vet around an hour after the shot so if somehting happens you are right there and the vet can counter the shot. This is very serious so please do your homework.

penpen7073 · 11-27-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rachelanne820

Do you vaccinate for lepto? I have heard yorkies shouldn't get it but I've heard all dogs need it.

I would not get that vaccinate !! the vet gave sophie one and it made her real sick so i started taking her to someone else I was told that the lepto shot could kill small dogs i would not get that one

Britster · 11-27-2009, 06:46 PM

Jackson got lepto shot w/o me knowing about it. He had a reaction to it when he got home, he began vomiting and couldn't walk. It was very scary. I had to take him back into the vets and keep a reverse shot. Scary! Wouldn't ever get it again.

_Chrissy_ · 11-28-2009, 06:40 PM

After the advice of Brenda (Mickey's breeder) and other here on YT I am NOT getting this shot for Mickey.

Mickey's vet said it was up to me but she recommends it.
It seems to me the risks are to high.
This vet gives Mickey his vaccinations only one per week so that if he has a reaction we know which one caused it. Also, we have to stay in the waiting area/exam room 15 to 30 min after shots.
Max's old vet did not give it to him.

rachelanne820 · 11-28-2009, 06:52 PM

I've seen two vets and they both recommended it for Nick and Daisy. They have both had it so far but it has to be boosted once a year. The vet said there is a risk of reaction at every booster. I'm just wondering if they need it...I mean I would hate for them to get the disease. Neither one has reacted yet but it could happen at any booster. I asked the vet about not giving it to yorkies and she said all small dogs are at risk for a reaction but she still recommends it because the benefits outweigh the risks.

Such a hard decision...

Ellie May · 11-28-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rachelanne820

I've seen two vets and they both recommended it for Nick and Daisy. They have both had it so far but it has to be boosted once a year. The vet said there is a risk of reaction at every booster. I'm just wondering if they need it...I mean I would hate for them to get the disease. Neither one has reacted yet but it could happen at any booster. I asked the vet about not giving it to yorkies and she said all small dogs are at risk for a reaction but she still recommends it because the benefits outweigh the risks.

Such a hard decision...

It is an extremely difficult decision, but I don't think anyone on YT should say to give it or not give it. It is a very individual thing depending on the living situation and lifestyle. I will say for most toy breeds in most areas, it may not be a good idea and the vaccine has killed Yorkies before. At the same time, the disease is serious and is a very real problem in some areas of the country. It's something that everyone needs to do their own research for.

noisinka · 11-30-2009, 02:02 AM

Lepto is one of the core vaccines in this country. Sandy had his first shot when he was very young (it was given by our breeder's vet). We brought him to our vet for the booster shot last week and he was fine.

jp4m2 · 11-30-2009, 05:42 AM

Lepto is a bacterin, not a virus, and you can't get permanent
immunity to a bacterin. However, the vaccine has been described as
'useless' and there have been many calls for it to be withdrawn from the
market. There are hundreds of strains of leptospirosis, but only two in the
vaccine, AND it provides immunity (if at all) for only between three and six
months. This means that your dog is probably unprotected against the two
strains for around nine months of the year, and against all the other
hundreds of strains for ever.

Dr Ron Schultz (the world’s foremost independent authority on canine vaccines) ... he neither recommends nor advocates - even in Lepto endemic areas. “I have seen older dogs go into kidney failure within two days of receiving a Lepto vaccine.”

If it were me I would believe an authority on vaccines........

hugz4all4 · 11-30-2009, 07:33 AM

My dogs get the lepto, I have two small dogs, one being only 4 pounds and they all have been fine. No reaction. I have lepto in my area, I live on farm land out in the middle of no where where wild animals frequent my area often, rabbits run my property like its thier own personal play ground. I know that the shot only covers a few of the many variety's of the virus but if I can stop my dogs from getting sick from just one of the virus's then Im going too. Its like the annual flu shot that goes around for humans.. some are against it, some are for it.. I am choosing to do what I feel is right for my pets and family. Only you can make that choice..

.. do all the reasearch you can, call different vets to see what they say and go from there.

RemydeHaviland · 11-30-2009, 09:22 AM

Remy did get the Lepto vaccine and had no adverse reaction

In speaking with my vet we decided he should have the vaccine primarily because I live in an urban environment and he is outdoor potty trained. We are, therefore, walking frequently on city streets where he may come into contact with urine from a wide range of animals (healthy and unhealthy)

lil fu fu girl · 11-30-2009, 10:14 PM

Unfortunately, here in my area, there have been two cases of Icterohemorrhagiae, a serovar of leptosporsis. And, in consideration that my son has a heart condition and that Leptosporosis is a zoonotic disease that can be passed to humans, I chose to give my two the shot. We usually do a steroid before the shot, and then stay after at the vets to make sure that there are no reactions.

As most have stated, it is really a personal choice. If you choose not to have it given, just make sure that you know they symptoms of Leptospirosis, and know that you can live in the urban areas and acquire it as well, as it may be spread by the urine of domestic animals like cats who are carriers. JVMA has found that dew on the grass can hold the bacteria from a previous urination by an infected animal. Leptospirosis damages the kidneys and liver at an incredible rate, so any flu-like symptoms accompanied by bloody diarrhea should be investigated. Best of luck.

11-26-2009, 08:25 PM	#1
rachelanne820 YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 257	Lepto vaccine Do you vaccinate for lepto? I have heard yorkies shouldn't get it but I've heard all dogs need it.

11-26-2009, 08:30 PM	#2
Wrenee4 YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,048	We do not get it for any of our dogs and our vet doesn't give it unless requested. They don't even give it to their own dogs! It depends on your area though....if there are cases of lepto it might be needed. If you were to get it I would just stay at the vet office a little longer to make sure there isn't a reaction. __________________ ~Wendy~

11-26-2009, 08:33 PM	#3
mimimomo Don't Litter Spay&Neuter Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 9,874	Here's a good link that explains all the vaccines: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-overview.html __________________ Jenny Mimi Momo Princess Turbo Madan Pin Brush: www.toplinepet.com

11-27-2009, 05:41 AM	#4
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	It can kill a Yorkie so do your homework. If it is in your area and the shot is needed then you should plan to stay at the vet around an hour after the shot so if somehting happens you are right there and the vet can counter the shot. This is very serious so please do your homework. __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!

11-27-2009, 06:46 PM	#6
Britster Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,814	Jackson got lepto shot w/o me knowing about it. He had a reaction to it when he got home, he began vomiting and couldn't walk. It was very scary. I had to take him back into the vets and keep a reverse shot. Scary! Wouldn't ever get it again. __________________ ~ Brit & Lights! Camera! Jackson! CGC ETD TKP ~ Follow Jackson on Instagram: https://instagram.com/jacksontheterrier

11-28-2009, 06:40 PM	#7
_Chrissy_ Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,561	After the advice of Brenda (Mickey's breeder) and other here on YT I am NOT getting this shot for Mickey. Mickey's vet said it was up to me but she recommends it. It seems to me the risks are to high. This vet gives Mickey his vaccinations only one per week so that if he has a reaction we know which one caused it. Also, we have to stay in the waiting area/exam room 15 to 30 min after shots. Max's old vet did not give it to him. __________________ Max (the Morkie) & Mickey (the Yorkie)

11-28-2009, 06:52 PM	#8
rachelanne820 YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 257	I've seen two vets and they both recommended it for Nick and Daisy. They have both had it so far but it has to be boosted once a year. The vet said there is a risk of reaction at every booster. I'm just wondering if they need it...I mean I would hate for them to get the disease. Neither one has reacted yet but it could happen at any booster. I asked the vet about not giving it to yorkies and she said all small dogs are at risk for a reaction but she still recommends it because the benefits outweigh the risks. Such a hard decision...

11-30-2009, 02:02 AM	#10
noisinka YT Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 259	Lepto is one of the core vaccines in this country. Sandy had his first shot when he was very young (it was given by our breeder's vet). We brought him to our vet for the booster shot last week and he was fine.

11-30-2009, 05:42 AM	#11
jp4m2 Love my Boys Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: w/ my boys Posts: 5,056	Lepto is a bacterin, not a virus, and you can't get permanent immunity to a bacterin. However, the vaccine has been described as 'useless' and there have been many calls for it to be withdrawn from the market. There are hundreds of strains of leptospirosis, but only two in the vaccine, AND it provides immunity (if at all) for only between three and six months. This means that your dog is probably unprotected against the two strains for around nine months of the year, and against all the other hundreds of strains for ever. Dr Ron Schultz (the world’s foremost independent authority on canine vaccines) ... he neither recommends nor advocates - even in Lepto endemic areas. “I have seen older dogs go into kidney failure within two days of receiving a Lepto vaccine.” If it were me I would believe an authority on vaccines........ __________________ B.J.mom to : Jake J.J. Jack & Joey, momma misses you..... The joy found in the companionship of a pet is a blessing not given to everyone. The two most powerful words when we’re in struggle: me too..

11-30-2009, 07:33 AM	#12
hugz4all4 YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: upstate NY Posts: 2,114 Blog Entries: 1	My dogs get the lepto, I have two small dogs, one being only 4 pounds and they all have been fine. No reaction. I have lepto in my area, I live on farm land out in the middle of no where where wild animals frequent my area often, rabbits run my property like its thier own personal play ground. I know that the shot only covers a few of the many variety's of the virus but if I can stop my dogs from getting sick from just one of the virus's then Im going too. Its like the annual flu shot that goes around for humans.. some are against it, some are for it.. I am choosing to do what I feel is right for my pets and family. Only you can make that choice.. .. do all the reasearch you can, call different vets to see what they say and go from there. __________________ Love all 9 of my furrbutts!

11-30-2009, 09:22 AM	#13
RemydeHaviland Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lake Winnipesaukee, New Hampshire Posts: 640	Remy did get the Lepto vaccine and had no adverse reaction In speaking with my vet we decided he should have the vaccine primarily because I live in an urban environment and he is outdoor potty trained. We are, therefore, walking frequently on city streets where he may come into contact with urine from a wide range of animals (healthy and unhealthy) __________________ Susanne and Remy

11-30-2009, 10:14 PM	#14
lil fu fu girl No Longer a Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,410	Unfortunately, here in my area, there have been two cases of Icterohemorrhagiae, a serovar of leptosporsis. And, in consideration that my son has a heart condition and that Leptosporosis is a zoonotic disease that can be passed to humans, I chose to give my two the shot. We usually do a steroid before the shot, and then stay after at the vets to make sure that there are no reactions. As most have stated, it is really a personal choice. If you choose not to have it given, just make sure that you know they symptoms of Leptospirosis, and know that you can live in the urban areas and acquire it as well, as it may be spread by the urine of domestic animals like cats who are carriers. JVMA has found that dew on the grass can hold the bacteria from a previous urination by an infected animal. Leptospirosis damages the kidneys and liver at an incredible rate, so any flu-like symptoms accompanied by bloody diarrhea should be investigated. Best of luck.