Very Disturbing. Anyone know if there is truth to this?

[Abby08]

I think the article should have been checked out first as to where its "source" came from before I would believe it. I no longer believe any of it is true!!

So, don't just read the article, read where it came from first. It will save you from worry and being disturbed by folks who just want to stir something up, mainly Indymdeia and the folks at Rense.com

No, the whole article is refuring to all pet food and the ingredients, and deffinitions of ingredients which was published by this media outlet,(Indymedia) which I copied and pasted part of the "About Us" article below.

I honestly believe, that in order for a vet to send thier clients euthanized pets to a rendering plant for pet food, they would have to be located near enough to make it profitable or have high enough volume in dead pets. If it is true that a pet food company would accept euthanized pets, it would make more sense,(to me anyway) to get high volumes from city and county pounds and the Humane Society.The grand majority of those animals are gassed or given poisoned food, (or so I have read in my local newspaper) Though there are folks,(locally in my area) who are pushing for an injectable poison for the shelters. Most of the time, vets send the pets that are euthanized,back home with thier grieving owners,the rest go to the big dipsty dumpster out back

I know something about this because before my hubby and I married, he was a vet tech and that is what the local vets in NC and Va. do, send the dead pets home with the owner or put them in a dumpster, they don't send them to a rendering plant.
I am not saying this dosn't happen, just not on a regular baisis with 99% of the vets in the USA.

Oh and this also shows up on the article if you click on it. If you want to talk conspiracy theories, well, take it up with them, not me. I am for the truth and not twisting it for a cause, no matter how well meaning.

http://www.rense.com


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[FlDebra]

Does Your Dog Food Include Euthanized Dogs? This article even tells how many tons of euthanized dogs and cats are being rendered to meat-by products/meat meal in one major city.

FDA/CVM Report on the Risk from Pentobarbital in Dog Food A study that shows there is phenobarbital in dog food but they did not find any evidence of dog or cat DNA in the foods they tested.

So, there is conflicting information, but as long as it is legal for them to do that, I am betting it is being done somewhere. I don't want to take the chance. My dogs will not eat any dog food where I can read on the label it contains meat meal, meat by-prouducts, etc. Actually I don't allow any by-products. Human grade food is best. I feed Canidae All Life Stages for my adult dogs.

[lil fu fu girl]

If you think that this particular scenario is scary, then take a look at the domesticated animals that WE eat.
Have you ever been to a chicken farm.?
Cages with 5-8 chickens in a 1X1 foot pen. Sickly and inhumanly treated, and you want to eat their eggs?

How about a corporate pig or cattle farm. Do you know what is being fed to them? Four years ago the organic community went up in arms over the fact that these farms were feeding their animals feed that was derived from the same dead species that they are. Cattle eating the meal made with other cattle remnants, pigs eating feed made from pigs.
Nutritionally speaking, this is opening a whole new genetic can of worms. Diseases such as mad cow, may be spread this way.
Yes, the meal is heated to temps ranging up to 300 degrees, but this does NOT kill prions. The building blocks of diseases such as mad cow. It only spreads the prions to an unsuspecting public.

So do the research, and take a tour.
See what you and your pets are actually eating.

[Abby08]

FiDebra, I have read both articles all the way through and conclude that one is written by someone who has knowledge and read the actual papers and came up with a real conclusion. The other article was written by a person who writes for a living and dosn't necessarily actually read or quote from any scientific proof,they just write for what will make an excitable and inflamitory article.
In fact, this is a list of web articles this person has written:
M. Bruno - EzineArticles.com Expert Author

Might have to do a copy and paste, but this person has written a slew of articles, not all of them dealing with dogs and from reading a behavior article, I come to the conclusion that M. Bruno is not a dog behavior expert or health expert or nutrition expert or cosmetic expert either . But, M. Bruno makes me think, and question the articles that he/she writes.


One article was supposedly written from information gathered from where? And spread about a rendering plant in LA,Ca. The other actually gave facts and professional laboratory name and came to the conclusion that NO Dogs or Cats where found in the pet food. Only a drug used to euthanize animals. The conclusion that the drug came from euthanized cattle and horses. Hope we're not getting that in our Spam and hotdogs,ravioli, etc.

Perhaps the scientific study should have taken their samples from a rendering plant in La, West coast (if there is one) instead of Maryland, East coast.

I think instead of responding to articles like this, I will just ignore them from now on, when I consider the sources from the web where they came from. I do believe folks should read articles like this and then consider where the articles came from. Call your vet, call your humane society and find out if the pounds and shelters in your area actually sell thier dead animals to rendering plants. Especially if you live in La, California

Oh, and ask if the shelters recieve many animals with collars and tags, and when they do, what do they do with the collars and tags? Do they put the dogs altogether in one cage with each other, and some have collars and some do not, or do they remove all of them.......? Just asking

[Abby08]

Mad Cow disease comes specifically from eating sheep brains, which are put into cattle feed at one time. If a cow dies from this disease and its brain and products from its spine are ground and put into cattle feed, then yes, it will spread and we are subject to this too!
People can get it from canabalism too, used to go on in New Guinea, I believe was the last area back a long time ago, there was film futage of it that we got to see in Physical Anthropology class.

People ate enimies and relatives. If the person had that disease, then when they ate their brain,and parts of the spine, well, then they were infected too. Just takes several years for it to affect the person who injested the disease.

My father in law went to England many years ago and of course ate the beef products there. The last few years of before he died, he was affected by what his doctor called non parkinsons disease. When tested for Parkinsons, it came back negative, but the symptoms were look a like with the shaking and trembling. Of course it could have been a number of other problems, but he may have been exposed! One cannot donate blood here in the US for a certain amount of time, if one has been to a foreign country where Mad Cow has been positively ID'd.

I'm not sure if eating chicken will give you mad cow disease of anykind, I do belive they eat grain, and chemicals that are put into cement to make their shells harder for transporting.

Farm animals are often kept in deplorable conditions and are killed in an inhumane way. This should stop, but I'm not going vegan over it


There is some good to animal activisim, but some of it will affect whether you have a domestic anything to have as a pet, or even eat animal protein one day.

[lil fu fu girl]

Originally Posted by Abby08

Mad Cow disease comes specifically from eating sheep brains, which are put into cattle feed at one time. If a cow dies from this disease and its brain and products from its spine are ground and put into cattle feed, then yes, it will spread and we are subject to this too!
People can get it from canabalism too, used to go on in New Guinea, I believe was the last area back a long time ago, there was film futage of it that we got to see in Physical Anthropology class.

People ate enimies and relatives. If the person had that disease, then when they ate their brain,and parts of the spine, well, then they were infected too. Just takes several years for it to affect the person who injested the disease.

My father in law went to England many years ago and of course ate the beef products there. The last few years of before he died, he was affected by what his doctor called non parkinsons disease. When tested for Parkinsons, it came back negative, but the symptoms were look a like with the shaking and trembling. Of course it could have been a number of other problems, but he may have been exposed! One cannot donate blood here in the US for a certain amount of time, if one has been to a foreign country where Mad Cow has been positively ID'd.

I'm not sure if eating chicken will give you mad cow disease of anykind, I do belive they eat grain, and chemicals that are put into cement to make their shells harder for transporting.

Farm animals are often kept in deplorable conditions and are killed in an inhumane way. This should stop, but I'm not going vegan over it


There is some good to animal activisim, but some of it will affect whether you have a domestic anything to have as a pet, or even eat animal protein one day.

Scrapie infected sheeps brains, high magnesium levels forming toxicity in cells, feed derived from crushed human bones coming from Pakistan and India; all theories as to where this small infectious protein originated from.
The exact vector, of this particular malformed prion, is still in the air!
No two researchers will give you the same theory twice.

What is known is that eating any product from an animal infected with a TSE, will transmit the disease to the host, no matter what temp the meal or food was processed at.


What makes this disease so uncrackable, is that it is fatal and not identifiable until after the hosts death.

So yes, if a chicken comes into contact with a TSE that is transmittable across species, then you will also become infected.

[manolos mom]

Very True. We had a local rendering plant shut down in our area. It took alot of work but we did it, thanks to the media. Anyway, this plant would take anything and everything including road kill, euthanized animals, pig parts and blood from a well known sausage plant near by. All this to make pet food. I have also been to a huge chicken plant and outside in the sun there were large tins filled with chicken parts being sold for petfood. Flys everywhere. Smells awful.

[WalnutHill]

Very interesting thread. I had heard this before, probably around '02 or '03.

Aa a side note, our local animal shelter has a very large incinerator that they use to dispose of humanely euthanized animals. I believe that our vet sends remains to them when necessary.

[Yorkiedaze]

Lots of information out there.

Closer Look At A Rendering Plant

The Dark Side of Recycling

Just google rendering plants for more information.

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by Abby08

FiDebra, I have read both articles all the way through and conclude that one is written by someone who has knowledge and read the actual papers and came up with a real conclusion. The other article was written by a person who writes for a living and dosn't necessarily actually read or quote from any scientific proof,they just write for what will make an excitable and inflamitory article.......

That is why I said there is conflicting sides ..... not that both are entirely right. ????

I am sure there have been euthanized animals used in dog food. Maybe not directly. The rendering plants sell their rendered product to another company that then sells it on to the dog food company as meat by-products and meat meals, etc. If you read further on the situation in LA or it may have been the one I was reading about in St. Louis (they had the same situation there), they were able to put pressure on all the shelters to stop giving their animals to the rendering plants. But, that left another problem -- no funds to dispose of the animals after euthanizing them. Funds to cremate them was not available and they started dumping them in land fills! So, I do not think the practice is so wide spread now. But what I was trying to say is -- as long as it is legal, it is going to be done somewhere at sometime. The law needs to change.

And I certainly am not going to buy any product that contains an unspecified "meat" byproduct or meal.

[FlDebra]

It was St. Louis -- my time was over for editing the above post. But the town that had to resort to landfills was St. Louis. The article tells what a media reporter uncovered: Outcry Over Pets in Pet Food - The practice of boiling down euthanized dogs and

Here is the sad story of a service dog that was taken to a rendering plant: Service Dog Killed In Traffic Brought To Rendering Plant | Itchmo: News For Dogs & Cats even though they had changed procedure 2 years before to no longer take cats and dogs straight to the rendering plant, it still happens. And 2 years ago it was the normal practice!

Here is another good article Dogs Cats | Food & Restaurant Guide basically saying, i we can't know for sure, avoid it! No animal fat, no meat meal, no animal bone meal, no by-products, etc...

The Sickening Truth About Pet Food listing two more journalists that have tried to alert the public.

[Elaine Benise]

That is absolutely disgusting. I had no idea. Thanks for the info.

[elleandca]

"So basically, what pets eat are lungs, ligaments, bones, blood and intestines"

0o yummy! wheres the throwing up smiley? jeez i feel sooo sickly could not read any more beyond that