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02-05-2009, 06:13 AM | #16 | |
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If you are feeding more than 10% homecooked, supplements and the calcium/phosphorus ratio has to be balanced or it could be very damaging to her (if fed long-term). Homecooked is just fine to give but it has to be the right kinds of food and cooked in a certain way. Fried beef is most likely very high in fat which can trigger pancreatitis (can be fatal). One small bite can lead to this in some dogs. So if you want to feed homecooked, I would talk to a nutritionist and get the recipe balanced and then after leaving it down for Amber for no more than 20 or 30 minutes, refrigerate until next time. I don't usually go with the tough love, they will eat when they are hungry approach but if she isn't eating homecooked even, you might have to. What canned foods have you tried? Has she always been picky?
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02-05-2009, 07:07 AM | #17 |
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| Feeding We've tried many canned dog foods and she doesn't like any of them! Dry food is total anathema too! I have never owned such a fussy beast but my previous animals were all brought up prior to my marriage 9 years back to my present wife who is madly in love with Amber (and me too). Think I will have to try her on toasted cheese and tomato sandwiches for lunch and grits for breakfast, 2 of my favorites! |
02-05-2009, 07:13 AM | #18 | ||
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I totally agree!! Fried foods are horrible for dogs and it seems like your baby is rejecting what you are giving. Yorkies have very sensitive stomachs and if you are making homemade you really need to look into this, it sounds like you are feeding an actual human baby. Dogs needs a balanced diet of fruits and veggies, meats, and rice, etc. you just have to make sure you are feeding them the ones that they are actually allowed to eat. | ||
02-05-2009, 07:22 AM | #19 | |
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I just have to hop in here and agree w/ what others have said -- feeding fried food, sandwiches, and un-balanced meals is and will be very detrimental to your dog's health. Like Crystal said, if you're feeding more than 10% homecooked food, you MUST re-balance the supplement program. Like Crystal asked - which dog foods, exactly, have you tried? If you're not going to balance the supplements, I really would stop all homecooking asap and strictly feed dog food - which is balanced properly. Just my opinion.
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02-05-2009, 07:26 AM | #20 | |
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total ly agree, you said it better than I could! | |
02-05-2009, 07:33 AM | #21 |
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| I joked about the sandwiches and grits and stated that we had tried MANY canned dog foods. Please don't bother to reply as you are being totally unhelpful! |
02-05-2009, 07:43 AM | #22 | |
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People are giving you GOOD advice here - if you aren't interested in the advice, I don't understand why you asked for it. If you ask for advice, people *will* reply. I'm not sure why you'd expect otherwise. Good luck.
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02-05-2009, 07:55 AM | #23 |
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| to the OP- Here's an article about protein. IMO there's not too much protein. "Can I feed my dog too much protein? If your dog eats too much protein, some will be excreted in the urine and the rest will be used as calories or converted to fat - causing your dog no harm. However, if your dog has a kidney problem, high protein diets are not recommended. Most pet food companies slightly exceed the minimum recommended protein requirements to ensure that dogs get adequate protein from their food." "Does high protein cause kidney disease? No. This myth probably started because, in the past, patients with kidney disease were commonly placed on low-protein (and thus low-nitrogen) diets. Today, we often put them on a diet that is not necessarily very low in protein, but instead contains protein that is more digestible (therefore producing fewer nitrogen by-products). These diet changes are made merely because damaged kidneys may not be able to handle the excess nitrogen efficiently. In pets with existing kidney problems, nitrogen can become too high in the bloodstream which can harm other tissues. Unless your veterinarian has told you your pet has a kidney problem that is severe enough to adjust the protein intake, you can feed your pet a normal amount of protein without worrying about "damaging" or "stressing" your pet's kidneys. Also, keep in mind the fact that you are not "saving" your pet's kidneys by feeding a low-protein diet. " posted from: Dog Food FAQs: Protein HOPE THAT HELPS!!! |
02-09-2009, 11:10 AM | #24 | |
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That did help! Thanks so much! And to everyone who posted. I feel much better about it now!!! Until the next thing pops up that I need to worry about right??? lol Don't think I will ever have the food thing down completely!!! PS Sorry, didn't mean to cause a tiff in here either.....
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02-09-2009, 12:00 PM | #25 |
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| like others have said, there are many different opinions on what to feed.. it all depends on your little one and what they do well on, etc. we currently feed a rotation diet of: nature's variety raw medallions & nature's variety instinct canned, ziwi peak, the honest kitchen, primal raw. we also leave kibble out at all times (just incase) although, they don't eat a whole lot of it! the kibble we are currently feeding is Nature's Variety Instinct & Natural Balance L.I.D.(Limited Ingredient Diet) small bites! good luck.. and i hope you get it all worked out soon!!
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02-09-2009, 02:46 PM | #26 |
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| I don't know if any long term studies have been done on the effects of high protein foods like Evo. Personally, I'm not comfortable with it. |
02-09-2009, 02:49 PM | #27 | |
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02-09-2009, 06:02 PM | #28 |
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| I always feel that too much of anything is not a good thing including protein. I personally will not feed anything that has too high of a protein in it and nothing that is too low either. Moderate is always good but everyone has different opinion when it comes to feeding high or low protein. I also think that dogs are omnivores not carnivores but again everyone has different opinion on this.
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02-09-2009, 10:00 PM | #29 |
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| it is a smaller kibble, yes..
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02-10-2009, 07:48 AM | #30 |
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| I just looked at NVs website and checked out the nutrional info on Instinct. It says protein at 42% as well, so it is the same as the Innova I am currently using. Guess there would be no reason to switch to that one then. This is all so confusing. Except for occasional gas, he seems to have no problems on what he is eating. And I am not sure where the gas is coming from either. He has always had just a little very occasionally though, nothing regular. It has gotten a little more frequent since I switched from homecooked patties to raw. He has been on Innova for 5 months though so I don't think it is from that. In another post I was told that it is not good that he has this gas, that something is irritating his tummy!!! I just don't know what to do.......
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