tooth decisions

[baby bellas mom]

so i took Bella to the vet yesterday for her shots and check up.
the vet said she looked fine except her nasty teeth
you see Bella never lost her baby teeth and they are jeprodizing the adult ones
he suggested that i have them taken out soon
he said if i were to get her spayed he would do it all at the same time
so heres where i am at
i havent decided on gettting her spayed and prob wont
so i was thinking about just getting them taken out
i am just so worried about the going under part i dont wanna lose my baby

[Ellie May]

Yes, they should be pulled either way if they are getting nasty.
I highly recommend that you get her spayed though.
I waited until Ellie was 6 and am not regretting it because she has a 26% chance of getting mammary cancer now instead of less than a 1% chance if I would've done it before her first heat. The longer you wait, the more chance she has of getting pyometra also. The safest cure is an emergency spay which is quite a bit more risky.

[YorkichonBella]

When I had my Bella spayed & 2 teeth pulled, there was a paragraph explaining addt'l charge for Pre-work Blood Test, Lazer surgery, and pain meds. Of course, I checked that I wanted all the above. It is so advised to do both @the same time & the Pre-work Blood Test is needed to safeguard against anything going wrong. It's good that you are thinking this through. Hope others will continue to give you advice as well. Hugs to yr Bella!!

[Hannah3183]

I'm going through the same decision! I have known that Mayme had a baby tooth still in, but the vet told me whenever they do a cleaning they will get it out then and to not worry about it. However, last night when I was brushing her teeth, I noticed that it had gotten real small and dark colored, so now I'm worried.
She's already been spayed, and I've not discovered that she has high bile acids and don't want her put to sleep/given extra medicine...etc. Ahh, I'm so worried.

Best of luck in whatever you decide to do!

[samsonsmomdana]

Samson's upper teeth look like adults are trying to come in before puppy teeth are gone too. I am going to take him to the vet this weekend. Bottom's are fine though.

[AvyQuinn]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

I highly recommend that you get her spayed though.

Teeth and spay all at once! Good deal! She'll be as good as new! =D


Why the decision to not spay her? Just curious!

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by Hannah3183

I'm going through the same decision! I have known that Mayme had a baby tooth still in, but the vet told me whenever they do a cleaning they will get it out then and to not worry about it. However, last night when I was brushing her teeth, I noticed that it had gotten real small and dark colored, so now I'm worried.
She's already been spayed, and I've not discovered that she has high bile acids and don't want her put to sleep/given extra medicine...etc. Ahh, I'm so worried.

Best of luck in whatever you decide to do!

How old is she?
Many dogs that have high bile acids go under anesthesia and do just fine...Ellie being one of them. Letting the tooth stay and allowing bacteria to build up can lead to problems with the heart, kidneys, liver and lungs. There is really no way around it. But the vet really does need to know that they are doing. Some will mask down with gas if the dog has a compromised liver and no NSAIDs should be used.

[Hannah3183]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

How old is she?
Many dogs that have high bile acids go under anesthesia and do just fine...Ellie being one of them. Letting the tooth stay and allowing bacteria to build up can lead to problems with the heart, kidneys, liver and lungs. There is really no way around it. But the vet really does need to know that they are doing. Some will mask down with gas if the dog has a compromised liver and no NSAIDs should be used.

She's almost 1 yr and 4 months. I know it needs to be taken out...and soon, i'm just scared to death. I'm going to take her to my vet in kentucky that has run both of her bile acid exams instead of my vet here in TN who seems a little clueless on liver problems. My vet in TN thought it would fall out and now says to not worry about it that they will take it out whenever she has a cleaning. However, that was wayyy before I found out about her compromised liver. I'm wondering now if that tooth has led to her high biles from being in there this long already.

What are NSAIDS?

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by Hannah3183

She's almost 1 yr and 4 months. I know it needs to be taken out...and soon, i'm just scared to death. I'm going to take her to my vet in kentucky that has run both of her bile acid exams instead of my vet here in TN who seems a little clueless on liver problems. My vet in TN thought it would fall out and now says to not worry about it that they will take it out whenever she has a cleaning. However, that was wayyy before I found out about her compromised liver. I'm wondering now if that tooth has led to her high biles from being in there this long already.

What are NSAIDS?

NSAIDs (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) are a group of drugs sometimes used post-surgery to control pain that can be very hard on the liver. Some common ones used in vet medicine are Rimadyl, Deramaxx and Metacam.

I know it is so scary.
It would've been fair to wait and pull it when she had to go under for something else (that is what Ellie's old vet said to do), but who knows how long that will be, so I wouldn't give that advice. Ellie had double teeth as a pup and we did nothing about it. At age 5 she was diagnosed with stage 3-4 periodontal disease and the baby teeth were gone. They must've rotted out or something (I know discusting), but we just didn't know how important taking care of their teeth was then. Live and learn.

Ellie was masked down with Isoflurane for her spay/liver biopsy/dental and did perfectly. Masking down is another area of controversy though.

[Hannah3183]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

NSAIDs (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) are a group of drugs sometimes used post-surgery to control pain that can be very hard on the liver. Some common ones used in vet medicine are Rimadyl, Deramaxx and Metacam.

Thanks for the info!!

[143julz]

Dudley just had 9 retaines pulled at 7 mo. He is on Rimadyl....seems to be fine, he has 2 more days of it and then he's done.
They do blood work prior to, making sure levels are where they need to be, please take care of the dental before the problem worsens and gum disease sets in.... That's whole nother story i can share with my past yorkie...NOT GOOD.
Best to you!

[Mitzis Mom]

Originally Posted by baby bellas mom

so i took Bella to the vet yesterday for her shots and check up.
the vet said she looked fine except her nasty teeth
you see Bella never lost her baby teeth and they are jeprodizing the adult ones
he suggested that i have them taken out soon
he said if i were to get her spayed he would do it all at the same time
so heres where i am at
i havent decided on gettting her spayed and prob wont
so i was thinking about just getting them taken out
i am just so worried about the going under part i dont wanna lose my baby

When I talked with my vet about spaying and taking out Mikki's baby teeth at the same time she said that it depends on how much tartar is on the teeth b/c she doesn't want to do the 'dirty' work while having an open surgery...

Something more to take in consideration... {{{SIGH}}}

[baby bellas mom]

bella just turned two in october
i am just so worried about her making it through surgery and going under i dont like the idea of it! i have thought of maybe just taking her to this lady i know that cleans teeth but idk if that would take care of the problem tho.

[Mitzis Mom]

Originally Posted by baby bellas mom

bella just turned two in october
i am just so worried about her making it through surgery and going under i dont like the idea of it! i have thought of maybe just taking her to this lady i know that cleans teeth but idk if that would take care of the problem tho.

She needs to be put under for that too, doesn't she? Mitzi, Max and Maggie had their teeth cleaned and they needed to be anestisized...

[baby bellas mom]

yes she does and thats the part that i dont like the most! its not the teeth its the process you have to go through thats why he was just going to do the spay and teeth all in one swoop, but that kinda seems like a lot to go through at one time to me