What Brands have a Specific Yorkie Formula?
 

I am currently feeding my 3 Yorkie's "Royal Canin mini 28", but it has too many calories for them since their getting older. Does anyone know what other brands of Dogfood out there that carry a "Yorkie Formula"? Or a Diet version? Whats the Best for them? What do you feed yours? Just curious I/m trying to some Research before I make a decision?:confused:

I don't know of any foods that are specifically for Yorkies except for the Eukanuba & Royal Canin (I think). I didn't think that the Royal Canin was a very good dog food but I don't really know for sure. I feed Taste of Wild Pacific Stream. Someone else can better help you, there are lots of lovely people on here that are very educated in good foods for our babies.

As far as my self research goes, Royal Canin and Eukanuba is not very good food.

I would recommend Merrick or Wellness. Honest Kitchen Force, Natural Balance. There's many good food out there. All these I like. Try to learn how to read ingredients, it will help you so much in deciding. I myself feed Orijen, but I admit it may not be for everyone. :)

"yorkie breed" specific food is just an advertising ploy. They mean nothing. Natural Balance and Wellness are great foods that offer "diet" or low calorie formulas

I feed Theodore Life's Abundance. When he came to live here, that's what my daughter had been feeding him; so I researched it, and have since put out 90 pound Lab Wallace on it too...and his itching has stopped and his hair no longerfalls out. I never knew supermarket dog food was so bad for doggies. Have been learning a lot here at yorkie talk. thanks, corrinne

I've got mine on eukanuba naturally wild and they're doing really well on it, smaller poops and less of it..they also have a eukanuba for yorkies..

I know you all will through a fit, but my vet was glad that I was feeding breed specific food, I don't think it's just a marketing ploy, and neither does he.

Not to put down your vet, but vets are generally not schooled in pet nutrition... i know this for a fact. And unless your vet is JUST out of vet school, chances are this holds true for him/her. Also, your vet may carry this food and thus they are paid to sell it. But let's assume none of that is true. Here are the ingredients for Eukanuba Yorkshire Terrier.

Chicken, Chicken By-Product Meal, Corn Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Brewers Rice, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Fish Meal, Ground Whole Grain Barley, Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Beet Pulp (sugar removed), Dried Egg Product, Fish Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Brewers Dried Yeast, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Beta-Carotene, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Flax Meal, Fructooligosaccharides, Calcium Carbonate, Choline Chloride, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), DL-Methionine, Rosemary Extrac

First- Chicken bi-products are not good for ANY breed, also corn and brewers rice are cheap fillers. Dried beet pulp is controversial. So all of this aside... WHICH Of these ingredients are "best" for yorkies?

And here is the Dachshund food... looks about the same to me.
Chicken, Chicken By-Product Meal (Natural source of Chondroitin Sulfate and Glucosamine), Corn Meal, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Ground Whole Grain Barley, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Natural Chicken Flavor, Brewers Rice, Dried Beet Pulp (sugar removed), Dried Egg Product, Fish meal, Brewers Dried Yeast, Potassium Chloride, Fish Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Salt, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Beta-Carotene, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Inositol, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), Flax Meal, Sodium Hexametaphosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Choline Chloride, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Potassium Iodide, Cobalt Carbonate), Dried Chicken Cartilage (Natural source of Chondroitin Sulfate and Glucosamine), DL-Methionine, L-Carnitine, Rosemary Extract.

I am not looking to pick a fight but I can't just be quiet when people are being misinformed

And just for the fun of it here it is for Royal Canine- Yorkishire Terrier


Chicken meal, brewers rice, brown rice, chicken fat, chicken, corn gluten meal, dried egg powder, barley, natural chicken flavor, cellulose, dried beet pulp (sugar removed), anchovy oil, dried brewers yeast, potassium chloride, soya oil, fructo-oligosaccharides, salmon meal, calcium carbonate, sodium tripolyphosphate, choline chloride, dried brewers yeast extract (source of mannan-oligosaccharides) , taurine*, Vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol (source of vitamin E), inositol, niacin supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C*), d-calcium pantothenate, biotin, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin supplement (vitamin B2), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin A acetate, folic acid, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement], magnesium oxide, borage oil, Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], glucosamine hydrochloride, L-carnitine, DL-methionine, marigold extract (Calendula officinalis L.), tea (green tea extract), chondroitin sulfate, preserved with natural tocopherols (source of Vitamin E), citric acid and rosemary extract.


And Dachshund
Chicken meal, brown rice, brewers rice, oatmeal, wheat gluten, corn gluten meal, chicken fat, chicken, natural chicken flavour, dried beet pulp (sugar removed), rice hulls, salt, anchovy oil, soya oil, potassium chloride, calcium carbonate, cellulose, fructo-oligosaccharides, choline chloride, hydrolyzed vegetable oil (CLA), sodium tripolyphosphate, taurine*, Vitamins [DL-alpha tocopherol (source of vitamin E), inositol, niacin supplement, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C*), d-calcium pantothenate, biotin, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin supplement (vitamin B2), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin A acetate, folic acid, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement], borage oil, Trace Minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], glucosamine hydrochloride, L-carnitine, tea (green tea extract), chondroitin sulfate, preserved with natural mixed tocopherols, rosemary extract and citric acid.

notice the same bad ingredients? and similar ingredients all around?

I'm just not satisfied with the web based information on what foods are bad, and why. I studied human nutrition, and know that many things are still up in the air, and things aren't as black and white as some of the "experts" suggest. I can see logic in giving breed specific formulas, for example some breeds might have more joint problems and Glucosamine would be added for this reason, as seen in both the Yorkshire terrier and Dachshund formulas.

Right but why wouldn't EVERY dog benefit from Glucosamine? to say JUST yorkies or dachshunds need it is crazy.

I think that Royal might make a SR. formula.

I believe there is a great differenc between the nutritional needs of small breed dogs and large breed dogs. Do these brands make different formulas for each? How does the price compare to Royal Canin?

Nancy I agree with you wholeheartedly. Look how much conflicting information there is on the comparisons of the various brands.

JMO but I believe the best brand is the one that they will eat. LOL

What brand do you feed?

I've read that Yorkshire terrier and Dachshunds are very prone to joint problems, I haven't read this about all breeds, but I know little about the differences in breeds. Why would you give it to a dog who has no joint problems, as a dog ages, it might be wise to add it to the diet, but why would every dog need it, if there is no problem. For example, I haven't heard that it's recommended for children, but many adults take it.

I believe, just as humans do, dogs do well on a variety of diets. There is no one best diet for humans, although many "experts" swear there is. When choosing a diet, many factors should be looked at, and in my opinion, convenience is one of them, ease of purchasing the product, as well as cost, and nutritional value are all important considerations. I just do not believe the facts are out there supporting many statements that certain dog foods are bad for our dogs, or that dogs do significantly better on one specific diet. This is not to say that "individual" dogs don't have special needs, and some obviously do better on specialized diets, but you can't take that information and generalize it to the whole dog population.

Royal Canin for Yorkshire Terriers, we went through so many different foods, and Joey's breeder had recommended Purina's Lamb and Rice formula, but because I was told by many that this is pure garbage, I started looking for a substitute. Joey was really picky, and didn't like many of the premium foods, and I home cooked for a while, but was afraid it wasn't as balanced as it should be. I've got to say, I don't have many of the problems that others have with their foods. He doesn't eat his poop, he has no problems pooping, its nice and firm, he has no gas, he doesn't vomit, and his breath and skin smell good, and he never scratches himself. He has lots of energy, but seems relaxed most of the time. He seems healthy in so many ways; I hate to switch him again when he seems to be thriving. Oh yes, I forgot, he eats it and loves it, a big plus in my book.

Layla please help
 

I AM A NEW YORKIE MOM, AND I WANT TO FEED MY LITTLE BOY WHAT IS BEST FOR HIM OVERALL. I HAVE BEEN READING AND DISCOVERED THAT MOST SAY THE SAME THAT WE SHOULD AVOID PRODUCTS WITH ANY GLUTEN AND CORN, WHEAT AND SOY.

SO PLEASE TELL ME WHICH BRAND(S) DO YOU RECOMMEND.
THESE ARE THE ONES I AM CONSIDERING
Old mother hubbard, eukanuba, nutro natural choice, [COLOR=green! important][COLOR=green! important]royal [COLOR=green! important]canin[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], or authority

ALSO, IF YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THE OTHER TWO QUESTIONS, PLEASE DO SO.
WE ONLY WANT THE BEST FOR DUKE
1. He urinates in the right area, but does not poo in the right area. Please help us understand this.
2. About the same time every night he gets up and bark and whine for no reason. Please help us understand this.


Thank you,
duke's family

unfortunately none of the foods are good foods.

Try Wellness, SOlid Gold or Natural Balance

Ello everyone. I have been feeding my little one, IAMS smart puppy for small and toy breed because that is what the breeder was feeding him. I have to admit that I hate that food. When I took her advice, I had never really had to buy dog food before and was going in like a deer in headlights. Now that I know what to look for I realized how really crappy that food is.

Here are the first 5 ingredients or so..... Chicken, corn meal, Chicken by-product meal, ground whole grain sorghum, chicken fat, dried beet pulp, chicken flavor......... Okay maybe more than the first 5 but by now you get the idea that right off the bat it has some awful ingredients.

Now that the bag is almost gone we are gradually changing food. I have done a ton of research and the best I can find that is sold in my area is Call of the Wild roasted duck. It is a grain free diet and doesn't have any by-products. I must have read every single bag in both stores and I am sure the employees hate me since I had so many questions. The first time I put a small amount of the new food in, he went right for the bowl. He ate those pieces first and then the old food. We haven't had any problems with loose stools or an upset stomach. I hope this helps anyone looking into food. I also know that other people have recommended Call of the Wild and i have heard Buffalo is good but do not know from personal experience.

great post :thumbup: !! Im in the process of switching my animals over to chicken soup and taste of the wild and thankfully they are eating it, but before I couldnt get them to eat anything but pedigree and I knew that it was full of fillers and by products however its all the would eat and Im sorry but if they wont eat anything else, then garbage food it was!! I was not going to let them starve to get them on a"better food".. and the statement... "animals dont let them starve themselves they will eventually eat" in my case was very untrue.

I would definitely agree that a breed specific (or combo breed specific--such as one for toy breeds, etc...) food would have to be a better choice than a non-breed specific food IF it also contained good ingredients. I can't imagine anyone would argue that a Yorkie has different dietary needs than a Great Dane, say. Just for the sake of comparison: a Yorkie has a long, silky coat, has a much larger energy requirement (most of them anyway :) ), has a MUCH smaller stomach--and therefore can't eat as much as, etc... when compared to a Great Dane. Just as was mentioned, Yorkie's as well as many other breeds, tend to have more joint problems than other breeds, so it would make sense that their diet contain something to aid with that. (Also, a dog can't tell you when his joints are aching, and by the time they are walking differently or limping or whatever other signs might be observed, they are more than likely in quite a bit of pain. While I don't like to basically "over" dose my self or my dog, I can see the benefit of never letting it reach this point when there is a strong correlation with something happening to a specific breed.) And many other differences in diet between different types of dogs could be tacked on here as well, I'm sure.

Sadly, it seems that the only breed specific foods out there right now seem to be with larger companies, which also tend to manufacture foods with the bottom dollar as a bigger motivator than the health of their "consumers" (our dogs). Just look at Purina, for example. They have several different varieties (plain Purina, PurinaOne, Purina Pro Plan, etc...) along with many different "special" foods within each variety (these are cat food examples because those are the one's I can think of off hand: Indoor Health, Sensitive Systems, Healthy Weight, Advanced Hairball, Advanced Hairball AND Healthy Weight, etc...) Eukanuba, Iams, Science Diet, etc... all make "specific" foods that contain terrible ingredients!! Why can't good dog food brands make more specific formulas for our babies? I'm guessing it isn't cost-effective for them to do this. They do make small bites in some of those......so why not change small bites to small breed and make it a little more customized for smaller breed dogs?? The same could be done for the large bites. Wellness does make "Small Breed Adult" and "Large Breed Adult" varieties, which is GREAT!!! However, if you'd rather be feeding grain-free or your dog has allergies to ingredients in these formulas or you dog simply won't eat these, it doesn't do us any good. I am REAAALLLLY hoping to see some other good dog food companies to follow this new-ish trend, and I'm also hoping to see a better variety in "flavors" (for lack of a better word--really I'm talking about included ingredients, whether that be lamb, chicken, or salmon, etc... or some that don'g include typical allergens that may be affecting your dog) of foods in these more specialized foods.....we like choices!!!

All that being said, however, I do agree that a GOOD food isn't any good to a dog who won't eat it! Sometimes we have to take the lesser evil....and some dogs may just have to eat a food with fillers rather than basically wasting away!!! (That would not be a good alternative!!!) I have read that dogs have many, many MORE scent receptors than humans and many, many LESS tastebuds than humans, so it would stand to reason that if a food SMELLED reeeeaaaalllllly good (like maybe you could add something over the top that made it smell incredible....don't know what that would be??) a dog that was otherwise uninterested in that same food may just gobble it down! It's a thought anyway.... :confused:

i too believe the best brand is the one they love to eat...i know many will disagree but what is the point of buying the better rated food if they won't eat it...what good does that do for them...especially if you are having to force them to eat...i rather find something that they enjoy eating then trying to buy the best of the best just to have it sitting there..hehe

Layla
 

Thanks for your reply and tonight we went and brought him the wellness for puppies. I hope he likes it and that it will stop him from itching so much.

My experiences with Pedigree, Eukanuba, etc...
 

I tried Pedigree, Eukanuba Yorkshire, RC Yorkshire, Proplan, Beneful, IAMs and what I notice, my maltese had terrible tear stains. I know Eukanuba Yorkshire has very good appetise smell and I will no wonder that most of yorkie or other dogs love it. The problem is my yorkie had smelly tears and my maltese had terrible tear stains.


Then I decided to cook for him and also give him Orijen dog food recently, the result, no more tear stains. My yorkie tears smelt badly before and he as this problem anymore now.

I myself learned from my experiences, no more dog food containing by-product, beetpulp, corn, or any other cheap ingredients. I will only choose human graded dog food like Orijen. I would try Solid gold or Timberwolf oneday. I am happy with Orijen for the moment.

You can see from my photo albums where Hanzo, my maltese, had terrible tear stains and his recent pictures where all his tear stains are gone.

I do believe good quality dog foods make really differences.

I used to feed Lulu my shihtzu Alpo. She barely eats then. Then I switched to Science Diet. Same thing. And she never has any energy to romp around with Mocha for long. Switched to Orijen.. TADA! She's doing great. We go for walks twice as far before she starts sitting down. Her coat is much better too.

Just because a food smell better doesn't mean it's good for them. Just because a dog will eat the food, doesn't mean it's good for them. They will eat chocolate if you give it to them, won't they? Garlic? Hmm... Nice smell... :D I know Mocha goes for tissues... stones.. anything crunchy, anything bitable, anything she can swallow, and some that she can't. :D

Even if they will eat the food, I will not feed it to them if I *know* it's not good for them. But that of course is only one person's opinion. :)

dmnevil:
Just keep persisting with the poo thing. When he poos on the wrong place, if you catch him in the act, distract him with a firm NO or a loud clap, and bring him to the right place. Mocha is *just* fully housebroken. She also used to poo everywhere she likes, which was usually not on the pad. She is almost 8 months old. It's been 3 weeks since we last had an accident. The key is persistence and patience, patience, patience. You will get there :)

Royal Canin's Diet Formula
 

"Thank You" to whom ever suggested a "Diet Formula" for Royal Canin, it's not
Breed Specific for Yorkie's but it is a Diet Formula for Over weight Small Breed
Dogs it's called "Mini Weight Care 30". It has higher Protein, less Fat & Calories plus a Fat Burner. I started using it this week, my Mother hopefully has STOPPED feeding them Table Food? Since they are a whopping 12.5 lbs. a piece. Artie gained 2 1/2 lbs., Abigail gained 4 1/2 lbs., Pom Pom gained 2 lbs. since my Mom moved in 2 months ago! I Lectured her and warned everyone in my Household NOT to Feed them! I promised myself I would
"Walk" them longer or more often to try to burn more Fat? I hope it works or I'll end up getting a "Treadmill" for Christmas?

I am totally new , I had a 6 week puppy and i need advice and help even it there is members willing to help me via msn or skype they are welcome just use pm for the address.
I READ that Eukanuba is good!!

Hi there, welcome to the forum. :)

Please, no Eukanuba. It's very bad food.

Instead, try:
Wellness
Orijen
Natural Balance
Nature's Variety
Merrick

If you have questions, I will answer PM. :)

What is this "fat burner" thing? Sounds very suspicious to me.

Just for a general guide:
Dog Food Reviews - Royal Canin Mini Weight Care 30 - Powered by ReviewPost

Personally I think Royal Canin is horrid food. Fillers, fillers, fillers. In the ingredients, there's corn, gluten, beet pulp, brewer's rice, rice hulls, natural chicken flavor (if they really do put good meat they wouldn't have to put this in). This is all bad ingredients. And this is just from the top of my head.

I suggest a carb free food for losing weight on your dogs.

It's better to give your dog better food rather than over-exercising them. Yorkies have very small bones, I worry about their joints.

For small dogs, 4.5lbs is a lot! :eek: even 2 lbs is a lot! My yorkie is 4.4lbs, just the right weight. If she gains 2 more lbs, she will be MASSIVELY overweight. Even my shihtzu who is 8.6 lbs, if she gains 2 lbs it's already a quarter of her weight.

Please, please, find a better food.

i agree! ;) you have gotten some good suggestions from people.. or try doing a search(on here) for premium food and what will work for your baby! ;) good luck! :)