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Wylie's Mom · 08-05-2008, 04:22 PM

Oh, Nancy - I didn't even notice your extra questions about Menadione - I will see what I can find...

From an ooooold search - if memory serves, it was even used in diesel fuel and was listed w/ OSHA as such (I don't know why I thought of that one in particular). Also, I remember reading it was being considered as a chemo agent - I can't recall in what form, but it made me wonder again at how toxic it may be. I will do some searching after dinner....

I do know many of the proponents of menadione are those who sell, you guessed it, rather poor quality kibbles....

Nancy1999 · 08-05-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Oh, Nancy - I didn't even notice your extra questions about Menadione - I will see what I can find...

From an ooooold search - if memory serves, it was even used in diesel fuel and was listed w/ OSHA as such (I don't know why I thought of that one in particular). Also, I remember reading it was being considered as a chemo agent - I can't recall in what form, but it made me wonder again at how toxic it may be. I will do some searching after dinner....

I do know many of the proponents of menadione are those who sell, you guessed it, rather poor quality kibbles....

Oh, don't trouble yourself, I'm still researching canine nutrition, and I'm not happy with the proof people have offered suggesting one way is superior. I've been reading different forums, and certain links are always used as references, but I'm not sure why these links are considered legitimate. My background is in research and I'm a stickler for facts. Teachers have always hated me.

zaknnana · 08-07-2008, 10:07 AM

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Oh, don't trouble yourself, I'm still researching canine nutrition, and I'm not happy with the proof people have offered suggesting one way is superior. I've been reading different forums, and certain links are always used as references, but I'm not sure why these links are considered legitimate. My background is in research and I'm a stickler for facts. Teachers have always hated me.

I am ashamed to say that I actually bought this dog food and Lily loves it!! I bought her Canidae after I found the Rachel Ray so I give her both but she eats the bad Rachel Ray stuff better than the Canidae??? When I brought her home the breeder had her on Purina Puppy Morsels and I had read on here that wasn't good for her so one day I saw that new dog food in Walmart and I hadn't got to the Canidae yet so I bought it and she has been eating it ever since until I read this now and I am afraid I have hurt her??? She seems healthy and poops ok but I need to get her off of it huh!!!! What now????? I feel horrible!!!! I hope I haven't hurt her with it!!!
THANKS!!!!!!

stedmansmommy · 08-07-2008, 10:09 AM

I know! I saw this in a magazine that I bought last week and I was going to post about it but kept forgetting. Seeing it in the magazine was the first I heard about it. I haven't looked at the ingredients or anything and I had no idea that it was going to be sold at Wal-Mart. GEEZ....that says enough right there

yorkiesmiles · 08-07-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by zaknnana

I am ashamed to say that I actually bought this dog food and Lily loves it!! I bought her Canidae after I found the Rachel Ray so I give her both but she eats the bad Rachel Ray stuff better than the Canidae??? When I brought her home the breeder had her on Purina Puppy Morsels and I had read on here that wasn't good for her so one day I saw that new dog food in Walmart and I hadn't got to the Canidae yet so I bought it and she has been eating it ever since until I read this now and I am afraid I have hurt her??? She seems healthy and poops ok but I need to get her off of it huh!!!! What now????? I feel horrible!!!! I hope I haven't hurt her with it!!!
THANKS!!!!!!

You could not have done much damage with one bag - hon, people feed their dogs garbage for years. When you know better, you do better. This food has got to be at least a step up from Purina. I still feel like I continue to learn about food and nutrition, raw and home cooking all the time - and I used to breed Bichons. I thought I was doing the best for them, but I have got to say my yorkies are fed a better quality food

AVERYxo · 08-08-2008, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by zaknnana

I am ashamed to say that I actually bought this dog food and Lily loves it!! I bought her Canidae after I found the Rachel Ray so I give her both but she eats the bad Rachel Ray stuff better than the Canidae??? When I brought her home the breeder had her on Purina Puppy Morsels and I had read on here that wasn't good for her so one day I saw that new dog food in Walmart and I hadn't got to the Canidae yet so I bought it and she has been eating it ever since until I read this now and I am afraid I have hurt her??? She seems healthy and poops ok but I need to get her off of it huh!!!! What now????? I feel horrible!!!! I hope I haven't hurt her with it!!!
THANKS!!!!!!

yeah.. don't feel bad! (and trust me.. we had Avie on Canidae, when we first switched foods from the breeders and she really didn't care for it much either.. so maybe you can just try to switch her over to another premium kibble.. she will most likely love the next kind you try.. even if she didn't like the canidae.

there is a sticky at the top of the health&diet section.. and it lists some of the premium kibbles.. or you can do a search on here.. there are MANY threads! anyway.. my point is to go on a few of their sites.. and ask them for samples of their food!

good luck.. and like i said don't feel bad about the RR food-you didn't know.. and especially if your baby wasn't taking a liking to the canidae..

try another.. many feed stores will return the kibble if your baby doesn't like it. you should check with the people where you buy your food!

zaknnana · 08-08-2008, 04:44 AM

THANKS!! I am new to all this food stuff. I fed my other dog Iams for years and she seemed fine but I guess Yorkies are little different when it comes to dog food. Do you home cook now for your Yorkies? I am glad to hear you say that "Rachael Ray is one step above Purina" anyhow!! Does it hurt them to keep changing their dog food or should you keep them on one certain kind? She really doesn't eat her Canidae as well as the Rachael Ray one but I know the Canidae is best for her. She is 5 months old and probably is close to 3lb. She goes to the vet today for her rabie shot. Thanks for helping me!!

yorkiesmiles · 08-08-2008, 06:05 AM

Yorkies are not necessarily different. And dogs can live long lives on less than ideal foods - but it may effect their quality of life. I know for one, my Bichons suffered with allergies - but I didn't realize it was food allergies - but now I'm sure they were allergic to corn that was in the food I fed.

There is so much good information right here on YT about food and home cooking. This is also a decent website Dog Food Analysis - Reviews of kibble -- you have to remember it is one person's opinion - but the best thing is all the ingredients of the different foods are listed.

Thanks to the internet and a number of good books on nutrition for pets you can really educate yourself

crystalsmom · 08-08-2008, 06:23 AM

Innova even has some tomato in it but it must be such a small amt that it doesn't cause a problem for most. I fed Crystal 'solid gold' when I could get it and 'wellness' when I couldn't and that does have a sm. of tomato but never seemed to upset her at all. Rachael is trying to reach the people who never read labels and just look at her face on the package without asking themselves "Rachael what do you know about dogs"

Wylie's Mom · 08-08-2008, 07:30 AM

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Rachael is trying to reach the people who never read labels and just look at her face on the package without asking themselves "Rachael what do you know about dogs"

I agree with this.

08-05-2008, 04:22 PM	#31
Wylie's Mom Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 35,889 Blog Entries: 2	Oh, Nancy - I didn't even notice your extra questions about Menadione - I will see what I can find... From an ooooold search - if memory serves, it was even used in diesel fuel and was listed w/ OSHA as such (I don't know why I thought of that one in particular). Also, I remember reading it was being considered as a chemo agent - I can't recall in what form, but it made me wonder again at how toxic it may be. I will do some searching after dinner.... I do know many of the proponents of menadione are those who sell, you guessed it, rather poor quality kibbles.... __________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann \| Pfeiffer \| Marcel Verdel Purcell \| Wylie \| Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Last edited by Wylie's Mom; 08-05-2008 at 04:24 PM.

08-07-2008, 10:09 AM	#34
stedmansmommy I Love My Lil' Punkin's Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Stedman and Tatum's World :) Posts: 15,331 Blog Entries: 5	I know! I saw this in a magazine that I bought last week and I was going to post about it but kept forgetting. Seeing it in the magazine was the first I heard about it. I haven't looked at the ingredients or anything and I had no idea that it was going to be sold at Wal-Mart. GEEZ....that says enough right there __________________ Mommy Loves Stedman and Tatum! They have us wrapped around their little paws!

08-08-2008, 06:05 AM	#38
yorkiesmiles Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,493	Yorkies are not necessarily different. And dogs can live long lives on less than ideal foods - but it may effect their quality of life. I know for one, my Bichons suffered with allergies - but I didn't realize it was food allergies - but now I'm sure they were allergic to corn that was in the food I fed. There is so much good information right here on YT about food and home cooking. This is also a decent website Dog Food Analysis - Reviews of kibble -- you have to remember it is one person's opinion - but the best thing is all the ingredients of the different foods are listed. Thanks to the internet and a number of good books on nutrition for pets you can really educate yourself __________________ yorkiesmiles Loved by Bubba & Roxy *Holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come*

08-08-2008, 06:23 AM	#39
crystalsmom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,946	Innova even has some tomato in it but it must be such a small amt that it doesn't cause a problem for most. I fed Crystal 'solid gold' when I could get it and 'wellness' when I couldn't and that does have a sm. of tomato but never seemed to upset her at all. Rachael is trying to reach the people who never read labels and just look at her face on the package without asking themselves "Rachael what do you know about dogs" __________________

08-08-2008, 04:44 AM	#37
zaknnana YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: WV Posts: 309	THANKS!! I am new to all this food stuff. I fed my other dog Iams for years and she seemed fine but I guess Yorkies are little different when it comes to dog food. Do you home cook now for your Yorkies? I am glad to hear you say that "Rachael Ray is one step above Purina" anyhow!! Does it hurt them to keep changing their dog food or should you keep them on one certain kind? She really doesn't eat her Canidae as well as the Rachael Ray one but I know the Canidae is best for her. She is 5 months old and probably is close to 3lb. She goes to the vet today for her rabie shot. Thanks for helping me!!