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LuvMySissy 07-31-2008 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 2151472)
Mine are not allowed any bone no matter the size. I also just cannot get passed the raw meat....weak stomach. However I find it very interesting feeding raw and I'm gonna read up on it. Maybe someday....when I get a stronger stomach:D I'm just the type of person that if I see blood I pass out.

You may want to look into freeze-dried raw then. That is what I do and my vet heartily recommends it!!!!!

YorkieChick1 07-31-2008 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 2151472)
Mine are not allowed any bone no matter the size. I also just cannot get passed the raw meat....weak stomach. However I find it very interesting feeding raw and I'm gonna read up on it. Maybe someday....when I get a stronger stomach:D I'm just the type of person that if I see blood I pass out.

You might want to try one of the premade raw diets first. Like Nature's Variety, Primal or Stella & Chewy's. There isn't any blood in it and they come in frozen little nuggets that you defrost and then you just have to break it up into pieces with a fork. Bone in meat has a little more blood but the blood comes from the bone marrow not the meat!! It takes a little while to get used to it but when you see how happy your dogs are to eat, it will make you happy too!!

Nancy1999 07-31-2008 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RawfedYorkieLuv (Post 2151160)
Hi!
I'm a prey model raw feeder and I constantly hear stories about raw bones ripping up intenstines etc.
Unsubstaniated rumors! I once asked a butcher for chicken livers and when he found out that those would be going to my dogs raw, he told me if I did that they'd die the next day!:rolleyes:
The myths and misconceptions about the raw diet are rampant! Chicken wings for big dogs is NOT recommended because they would just gulp it whole and potentially choke. Always feed raw meaty bones that fits with the dogs overall size, aim for pieces bigger than the mouth. I have a tiny girl (1 1/2 pounds) who can only muster chicken wings and things of that size. One will have to actually watch a raw fed dog eat to understand how they eat it. Any dog has the jaw and teeth to adequately handle bones. A dog will sit/stand and gnaw on his meaty bone. He/she does not bite it off like a person would eat a hot dog for example.
But I will say that you could do a lot better than chicken wings for your dog as there's little meat on it. Better would be chicken drumsticks! ;)





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RawfedYorkieLuv, I was told that a chicken neck was ok to give Joey, he's a 5 1/2 pound Yorkie, after I removed the skin, I gave it to him, but I was really afraid he would choke to death on it, and that has been the last time I did this. With a chicken leg, do you remove the skin? Do you give a small yorkie a whole leg? This seems like a lot of food.

RawfedYorkieLuv 07-31-2008 08:08 PM

Chicken necks?
 
I personally don't feed chicken necks, unless it's attached to the whole bird as it doesn't offer enough meat and if small enough, could potentially pose a choke hazard. I, too have a 5 1/2 pounder, my Gia. For her, I do take the skin off sometimes because she can't handle it too good and vomits it back up if she gets too much of it. So it depends on the dog. My other two don't have a problem with skin. Size wise, the bigger the better as to achieve adequate chewing time and to minimize gulping! *Most* dogs will walk away when they've had enough, little porkers may have to have their food taken away or you'll end up with a little butterball, lol, but for the most part, prey model fed dogs learn to self regulate after a short while!
A chicken drumstick is ideal for toy breeds up to 15 pounds, I'd say! Whatever your dog can't finish, put it back in the fridge and offer it up at next feeding. My Gia will eat the equivalent of half of a drumstick per feeding but she is very active....



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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2151644)
RawfedYorkieLuv, I was told that a chicken neck was ok to give Joey, he's a 5 1/2 pound Yorkie, after I removed the skin, I gave it to him, but I was really afraid he would choke to death on it, and that has been the last time I did this. With a chicken leg, do you remove the skin? Do you give a small yorkie a whole leg? This seems like a lot of food.


Nancy1999 07-31-2008 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RawfedYorkieLuv (Post 2151679)
I personally don't feed chicken necks, unless it's attached to the whole bird as it doesn't offer enough meat and if small enough, could potentially pose a choke hazard. I, too have a 5 1/2 pounder, my Gia. For her, I do take the skin off sometimes because she can't handle it too good and vomits it back up if she gets too much of it. So it depends on the dog. My other two don't have a problem with skin. Size wise, the bigger the better as to achieve adequate chewing time and to minimize gulping! *Most* dogs will walk away when they've had enough, little porkers may have to have their food taken away or you'll end up with a little butterball, lol, but for the most part, prey model fed dogs learn to self regulate after a short while!
A chicken drumstick is ideal for toy breeds up to 15 pounds, I'd say! Whatever your dog can't finish, put it back in the fridge and offer it up at next feeding. My Gia will eat the equivalent of half of a drumstick per feeding but she is very active....


Thanks for the information. I wish I had read this before I gave him the neck. So much information out there, it can be overwhelming when we just want to give out dogs a healthy diet.

RawfedYorkieLuv 07-31-2008 08:20 PM

No problem.....
 
...you're very welcome! ;)
I understand about your fears and questions as I've been there as well! I'm glad your Joey is ok!!!!!! When a proper prey model diet is given the choking hazard is pretty much 0! If and when it does happen, dogs will cough and vomit it back up, and it's not pretty to watch and it happened in the first place because the dog is a gulper and a piece too small for his mouth was given! Why don't you join us on the prey model thread as there's lots of info there! :)



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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2151687)
Thanks for the information. I wish I had read this before I gave him the neck. So much information out there, it can be overwhelming when we just want to give out dogs a healthy diet.


Nancy1999 07-31-2008 08:29 PM

I have read it and several other things as well, I only tempted because he seems to love the smell of raw chicken so much. Right now, I have no complaints with his health, and he seems to be doing great. I hesitate to change much, because he is doing so well. However, the information is always nice to have.

RawfedYorkieLuv 07-31-2008 08:55 PM

Initially I switched because my senior yorkie Toy (12) was pretty much a lost cause at that point (among other things, chronic systemic yeast infection) and I've seen first hand what kibble and over vaccinations has done to him. After he was getting better I got my second puppy and and I didn't see a reason why she shouldn't also benefit from a species appropriate diet as I didn't want any health problems for her in the future. Her and my third puppy have never had the need to see the Vet for anything other than a URI when they first came to my house. If and when you're ready to make the switch, great advise is waiting for you! There are many raw feeders here who'd love to help including myself! ;)

Sorry, I hope this isn't too much off topic!



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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2151709)
I have read it and several other things as well, I only tempted because he seems to love the smell of raw chicken so much. Right now, I have no complaints with his health, and he seems to be doing great. I hesitate to change much, because he is doing so well. However, the information is always nice to have.

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