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07-25-2008, 03:54 AM | #16 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member | I just want to throw in...the routine blood work at my vet's office before neutering...is not an indepth full blood panel. Mine offers a CBC test or a full panel. I always get the full panel. I just wanted to let people know...when your vet says a blood panel...ask and make sure it's the full one.
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07-25-2008, 04:22 AM | #17 |
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| BATS in my opinion are and should be required in puppies at 6 months of age but if you feel comfortable at 16 weeks then I would do it also. All breeding adults SHOULD be tested. BUT remember make sure your yorkie hasn't been on any kind of medication for at least 3 weeks before testing because it CAN give a false reading. That includes vacs, heatworms, antibotics ect... I know several that got slightly evalvated numbers first time around, sent blood to Cornell for a Protein C test and was cleared for shunt and retested BATS and they were normal when there were no meds in the system and BAT tested again in 6 months and cleared again. I myself have spoken with Dr. Sharon Center and she's a world of information! I can't wait to attend a seminar to hear her speak in person!!! With liver shunt so prevaliant in our breed it's our responsiblity to ensure the health and well being of this wonderful breed. I personally am still educating myself and will continue to research and study! It's important! Donna Bird Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers |
07-25-2008, 06:20 AM | #18 | |
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And make sure to ask for a geriatric panel after your Yorkie turns seven years old. | |
07-25-2008, 06:37 AM | #19 |
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| I have to agree with everyone saying that you should do a BAT (over 6 months). Roxy and TJ were 2.5 y/o - NO symptoms of any type of problems with them other than their luxating patellas. On a hunch, I decided to do a BAT, which is not painful at all. They were fasted for 12 hours, brought to the Vet, blood was drawn, they were feed a special food, and 2 hours blood was drawn again. I got the results the next day. Both were high, Roxy's being in L/S numbers. We went onto a specialist and onto to other tests, a special diet and special supplements. Both my Vet and Specialist agree that they would have NEVER suggested to do BAT, as nothing indicated liver issues, BUT Thank God I did....As Roxy was on a Raw diet at the time, and this is NOT the best diet for her with her liver issues, and she wasn't getting the added supplements to aid her liver. So me requesting a BAT and learning and aiding her as probably added years onto her life I HIGHLY suggest getting ALL Yorkies BAT at some point in time |
07-25-2008, 07:32 AM | #20 |
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| Dr. Center has revised her protocol so the 12 hour fasting isn't even needed anymore: Taken from Page 5 of the handout Dr. Center gives at seminars: 7. Random "Fasting" Bile Acids ARE NOT reliable for RULING OUT liver dysfunction or abnormal portal circulation. Rather, you need PAIRED SAMPLES AROUND A MEAL. We no longer collect 12-hr fasting bile acids but instead collect a bile acid sample before a meal (pre-meal) and 2 hours after a meal (post-meal or postprandial)." (all emphasis was added by Dr. Center, not me) |
07-25-2008, 07:36 AM | #21 | |
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07-25-2008, 03:34 PM | #22 |
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| I also want to point out that just because your breeder tells you they've never had a problem with liver shunt, doesn't mean they haven't. Breeders CAN lie I have a good friend who bought a puppy from a show breeder. She specifically asked the breeder beforehand if she'd ever had any health issues in her breeding program. The breeder told her no. Well, she found out a few months later that her breeder did in fact have a liver shunt puppy and lied to her about it. Luckily, the two dogs are from completely different lines and are not related, but this just goes to show you that breeders may hide the fact that they had a liver shunt puppy. Always be sure that the parents were BATed and be sure to see PROOF of the BATs...don't only take the breeders word for it. I've seen firsthand that not all breeders are honest.
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