Going CrAzY!!! its Bella....

[Mom2BabyNatalie]

Originally Posted by diggy4

I called the vet asked about mites, they doubt it as I have 2 yorkies and the other doesnt have any issues....but she is going to include it in her notes when she sits down and tries to figure this thing out. They are calling me in a little bit.

How old is Bella?

[Mom2BabyNatalie]

Originally Posted by diggy4

Would Diggy have mites also?

Sarcoptic mange mites are terribly contagious, so if this were the case, yes - Diggy would more than likely have them also.

Demodectic mange mites are not, (other than by being passed on from mother to puppy) - - it is something that is not preventable - not curable... but treatable..... so no - - no other animals in the house would carry the demodex mange simply because one dog has it.

It's very easy to differentiate between the two different mites under the microscope.

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by Mom2BabyNatalie

Sarcoptic mange mites are terribly contagious, so if this were the case, yes - Diggy would more than likely have them also.

Demodectic mange mites are not, (other than by being passed on from mother to puppy) - - it is something that is not preventable - not curable... but treatable..... so no - - no other animals in the house would carry the demodex mange simply because one dog has it.

It's very easy to differentiate between the two different mites under the microscope.

Good Post.

[diggy4]

Bella was 3 june 6th.

Diggy does itch here and there but always has, nothing major at all and never leaves marks or digs. Never loss hair or anything. He doesnt lick or go after on certain spot I think he just tends to get a lil itchy in the summer no big deal.

[Mom2BabyNatalie]

Originally Posted by diggy4

Bella was 3 june 6th.

Diggy does itch here and there but always has, nothing major at all and never leaves marks or digs. Never loss hair or anything. He doesnt lick or go after on certain spot I think he just tends to get a lil itchy in the summer no big deal.

Demodex doesn't usually take so long to become evident... but the mother of the pup my sister has is 2.5 and the breeder had no idea she had it because she was asymptomatic the whole time.

Here's what I found on demodex in older dogs...

"Most demodicosis occurs in young dogs, under age one and a half. An older dog should not get demodicosis unless he or she has an underlying problem with the immune system. In such cases, demodicosis is considered a indication to seek a more serious hidden condition such as cancer, liver or kidney disease, or an immune-suppressive hormone imbalance. A more extensive medical work-up will be required."

I would still have the vet do a skin scraping.... but since Bella is over 2 years old, it's at least a little less likely that it's demodex.... YAY!!

[Ellie May]

Didn't Bella have the bacterial problems?

[Mom2BabyNatalie]

Here's another thread about this... this baby's vets also thought allergies....

This is one of the reasons I feel that it's ALWAYS worth checking out with a skin scraping before anything else...

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...tic-mange.html

[diggy4]

Originally Posted by Mom2BabyNatalie

Demodex doesn't usually take so long to become evident... but the mother of the pup my sister has is 2.5 and the breeder had no idea she had it because she was asymptomatic the whole time.

Here's what I found on demodex in older dogs...

"Most demodicosis occurs in young dogs, under age one and a half. An older dog should not get demodicosis unless he or she has an underlying problem with the immune system. In such cases, demodicosis is considered a indication to seek a more serious hidden condition such as cancer, liver or kidney disease, or an immune-suppressive hormone imbalance. A more extensive medical work-up will be required."

I would still have the vet do a skin scraping.... but since Bella is over a year old, it's at least a little less likely that it's demodex.... YAY!!

I have a callinto the vet about mites I wish they would call back I want one done now. Im very impatient when it comes to these guys...

If this was a mite would she find any relief in anything?? because this new antihistamine is giving her a lot of relief. Prednisone also gave a lot of relief when it was working but she was on 1 mg a day which a low dosage and i could tell it wore off in 12 hours or so. So as of right now no serious digging since we started the antihis. but she is SO very sad. I read that depression is a side affect and she seems just that. She still runs to the door screaming her head off when someone comes over...she still sits on the arm of the couch barking at every leaf that blows by, she still does her lil head tilt when i talk to her.....but then lays right back down she wont really play much. She will play when its food time tho. I have hardwood floors in my kitchen and her FAVORITE thing to do is have me sit with her food bowl and i take one piece of kibble at a time and slide it across the floor she chases it, pounces, kills it then eats it. She would do this until she explodes if I let her. I can defiantely tell a difference in her tho. She is a VERY playful girl and loves to kick her brothers butt at LEAST once and hour. she hasnt in 2 days!

She also will NOT walk in the grass anymore??? Can dogs be that smart to actually KNOW what the are allergic to? Could she have just suddenly developed this bad of an allergy to grass? When she is having her itchy bouts she goes after the feet and butt. So obviously her feet bother her...so maybe she just finds the grass irritating touching her feet?

[diggy4]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Didn't Bella have the bacterial problems?

Clostridium, 2 times. I have maintained her natural flora with Pet flora 2 times a week (approx) and a tablespoon of yo-plus daily.

[chachi]

The prednisone did seem to help Chachi he didnt get worse on it but he didnt get better either and thats when the vet did a skin scrape. Does she have any open wounds?

[diggy4]

Originally Posted by chachi

The prednisone did seem to help Chachi he didnt get worse on it but he didnt get better either and thats when the vet did a skin scrape. Does she have any open wounds?

not large wounds they are the size of a m&m maybe, and she usually only has one at a time. The vet did give me clavamox for secondary infection I am going to start that today if they are open. I have been bathing her every other day in the hylyte shampoo or whatever its called and kept her very clean so as of yesterday she didnt show any signs of infection the vet said.
Did u have 2 dogs at the time? Did they both get the mites?

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by diggy4

Clostridium, 2 times. I have maintained her natural flora with Pet flora 2 times a week (approx) and a tablespoon of yo-plus daily.

Maybe her immune system isn't working right making it easier for mites to thrive?
Or she may be allergic to grass (which I couldn't even imagine having to deal with). If not then we are back at the Italian dressing. Poor girl.

[chachi]

I have two and Jewels didnt get it but Chachi had it bad. He had open wounds all over his back and no hair on his back. My Vet said all dogs have mites but when their immune systems get down they can multiply rapidly and thats when you have a problem

[diggy4]

Originally Posted by chachi

I have two and Jewels didnt get it but Chachi had it bad. He had open wounds all over his back and no hair on his back. My Vet said all dogs have mites but when their immune systems get down they can multiply rapidly and thats when you have a problem

okay so the mites caused the open wounds?

the only wounds Bella has are the self inflicted ones. where she scratches so hard and i just had her nails trimmed tuesday and they didnt round them down so she has even scraped me jumping on my lap when i have shorts on :S

And the hair she has lost is mats of hair due to her matting it up and ripping it out she isnt doing the loosing hair from everywhere just the places she has broken it off and its not bald its just really short from breakage....

Sound the same?

[chachi]

His wounds were self inflicted also but no he was bald in those spots