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BamaFan121s · 05-19-2008, 07:32 PM

If it were me, I would terminate the pregnancy as well, for the same reasons that the previous posters have mentioned. At 5 years, her pelvic bones are 'set.' In addition, her small size puts her at an even greater risk. No female of that size should be purposely bred...regardless of how small the male and the other dogs from his line are. However, she is quite far along with the pups IF she is prego.... *Hopefully* the male was too young to 'seal the deal'--a very good possibility.

Kudos to you for looking out for HER best interest...there are too many these days that are looking our for THIER selfish desires instead.

Welcome to YT!

LoveMyJake · 05-19-2008, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieDadNpines

Thank you all for your help and well wishes! I am in constant touch with my vet and he is watching her closely. When she is ready to deliver, it will be done at the vets office.

Today was my first day on this site and I am really happy I joined. I will keep you all posted on Penelope's pregnancy. Thanks again

Just wanted to say I think that's a wise decision to have her deliver at the vet's office, good for you.

Please do let us know how everything goes! I will keep Penelope in my prayers!

For My Coby · 05-19-2008, 09:55 PM

You're getting good advice from the experts. I would just like to welcome you and yours to YorkieTalk!!

C C Kent · 05-19-2008, 10:08 PM

I agree with the advice to keep your vet on the speed dial. She'll need constant supervision from this point. If you have steps in the house or going outside I would take great pains to keep her from using them.

The puppies will take what they need even if she can't afford to give it so nutrition is very important now more than ever. I mix puppy food in starting at week four and move her to straight puppy food by week six. When the puppies are four weeks I start the transition back to adult maintenance. Sudden changes in diet are never a good idea. The main idea is to keep her eating, and give her all she wants. This will reduce the amount of muscle mass she loses as a result of the pregnancy and help her recover faster after the delivery. As a first time mommy she'll need extra attention and affection. The happier she is the less stress she will feel. If your vet thinks she may be able to deliver naturally you might want to give her small portions of yogurt a couple of times a day to help her calcium level. Calcium depletion can lead to uterine fatigue during delivery, making a c-section the only option.

Please keep us posted on her progress, best wishes.

blueeyes_jd · 05-20-2008, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 4doggiemama

Hugs. I am so sorry you have been put in this position. You sound like a very caring person, therefore what you decide will be what you think is best, and that I will support. I know nothing about breeding, but I do know about support. Hugs, again.

I AGREE 150%!!!! IM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sorry you are put in this situation... but it sounds like you are the BEST person it could have happened to... because you actually CARE about your babies BEST interest! good luck on WHATEVER you decide!

DONNADEE · 05-20-2008, 07:28 PM

Wow,what a decision you had to make,i have a little girl also she is right a 4 pounds and when she was six months i got her spayed it scared me so much. so,i just wanted to let you know that we at yorkietalk are hear for you and care about whats happens with you and your little girl,so if you get scared and need some one to lean on pm me,my little abbey is 4 years old now.

rox626 · 05-20-2008, 07:43 PM

I don't post here very much especially since my three pound yorkie died. I wish you all the best. Hopefully everything will go well and you'll have time to get to the vet when the time comes if she needs a c section. At any rate please get her spayed.

Back in 1980 our yorkie died at the age of 5. My father was under the assumption that female dogs got fat after spaying and since she'd never be unsupervised, we wouldn't have any "accidents". She ended up with Pyometra, a uterine infection, which can occur with unspayed females. She had to have a hysterectomy and I don't think she ever fully recovered, getting really sick a year later. She was a larger yorkie, weighing in at 13 pounds. After this sad experience, I didn't hesitate to get Debbie spayed at 6months when she was only 2.7 pounds.

Best of luck to all of you. I feel bad for all the worry you must be going through.

txshopper73 · 05-21-2008, 04:10 AM

You are more than likely looking at a c-section for delivery so save up your money! It's great that you have a good relationship with your vet.

I had called my vet once to ask about terminating a pregnancy (from a question posted here on YT). He said that with smaller dogs, it can be extremely dangerous (he deals with yorkies a lot) and doesn't suggest it because it (the shot) could cause the uterus to contract too hard and it could kill the bitch. If you're considering terminating the pregnancy, I would do as yorkierose suggested and do it now by spay.

My FIL had 2 pregnancies terminated (shot method)...but it was with Vizlas...a larger breed of bird hunting dogs.

Go with the advice of your vet...if you decide to carry till term, have her spayed during the section. I would have her spayed to prevent anymore accidents.

Good luck with your furbutt!

margaritaville · 05-21-2008, 04:49 AM

Welcome! I know nothing about breeding so all I can say is I wish you and your little girl the best of luck which ever discision you make.

katelin · 05-21-2008, 09:06 AM

I wonder if your vet would schedule a c-section for you, at term, so that your baby doesn't have to go into labor and could be spayed at the same time? The puppies might have a chance for survival that way, and mom too.

Personally, I'd be afraid of the shot to abort the puppies. Rather I'd take extra good care of her during pregnancy and schedule a c-section for day 62-63 of the pregnancy.

Either way, its a hard decision. Wishing you the best of luck.

diggy4 · 05-21-2008, 09:24 AM

well we are only human and what happened is done...your being very responsible and thinking this thru well and exploring every avenue which is wonderful to see. I admire you posting it publically too as yes, you get the nasty posters but its par same thing different day but you also have gotten wonderful advice and I have learned a thing or 2 myself so THANKS!!! Your what YT is all about!

I hope all goes well with everything and best of luck to you all! Please keep us posted on your little ones progress....My thougths are with you 100%!!!!

If you ever need and ear I am HERE!!!

Yorkiedaze · 05-21-2008, 10:01 AM

Prayers will go out for your little girl that she comes out of this without any complications.

chattiesmom · 05-21-2008, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by diggy4

well we are only human and what happened is done...your being very responsible and thinking this thru well and exploring every avenue which is wonderful to see. I admire you posting it publically too as yes, you get the nasty posters but its par same thing different day but you also have gotten wonderful advice and I have learned a thing or 2 myself so THANKS!!! Your what YT is all about!

I hope all goes well with everything and best of luck to you all! Please keep us posted on your little ones progress....My thougths are with you 100%!!!!

If you ever need and ear I am HERE!!!

I agree 100% with Diggy!!!!! I, too am here if you ever need an ear.

Kenna · 05-21-2008, 10:50 AM

Just want to add that you did the right thing by having the vet involved. You sound like a caring person. I hope everything goes well.

wildcard · 05-21-2008, 11:29 AM

I would suggest you either: 1. Have her spayed now and terminate the pregnancy that way. That is the safest option for your bitch. Mismate shots can cause serious health problems and if you did not intend to breed her she should be spayed-- pyo infections are common in bitches of her age. 2. Wait for labor, attempt natural delivery, and be ready to section her. The size of the sire is not really an issue, generally in a true litter the puppies will stay a deliverable size, malpresentation at delivery causes far more issues than whelp size. If it is a singleton expect more complications as it may not produce the necessary hormones to cause labor and they also tend to be larger than a normal whelp (not always). Definitely x ray her the week prior to expected deliivery to get a headcount and also some idea of whelp size and location. You are at a distinct disadvantage because you do not know the due date because you had no pre-breeding progesterone test (so you don't know when she ovulated) and you don't even know the date of the breeding which would give you somewhat of a time frame. This is why I would not recommend an elective section-- if you do it too early the puppies will not survive as their lungs will not have the necessary lining they need to function. You might consider the use of progesterone testing to pinpoint a due date as she enters into her last week of pregnancy, that would help pinpoint a due date if you did want an elective section. Finally do not spay her at the same time as the section, do it at a separate surgery or you are taking a big risk with her. The disadvantage of allowing her to have the puppies is having two surgeries so that ultimately she is spayed and another is that because this was not intended I am guessing neither was screened for eyes, hearts or patella problems before the breeding occurred, so there is the risk of having unhealthy puppies (esp. Since the male at 6 mos is pretty much an unknown still healthwise). Of course if you have information about the health and longevity of dogs in the two pedigrees you can use that to help make your decision. Best of luck, being a breeder, intended or not, is tough!

05-19-2008, 09:55 PM	#18
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05-21-2008, 04:10 AM	#23
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	You are more than likely looking at a c-section for delivery so save up your money! It's great that you have a good relationship with your vet. I had called my vet once to ask about terminating a pregnancy (from a question posted here on YT). He said that with smaller dogs, it can be extremely dangerous (he deals with yorkies a lot) and doesn't suggest it because it (the shot) could cause the uterus to contract too hard and it could kill the bitch. If you're considering terminating the pregnancy, I would do as yorkierose suggested and do it now by spay. My FIL had 2 pregnancies terminated (shot method)...but it was with Vizlas...a larger breed of bird hunting dogs. Go with the advice of your vet...if you decide to carry till term, have her spayed during the section. I would have her spayed to prevent anymore accidents. Good luck with your furbutt! __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

05-21-2008, 04:49 AM	#24
margaritaville Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: west long branch, n.j. Posts: 4,457	Welcome! I know nothing about breeding so all I can say is I wish you and your little girl the best of luck which ever discision you make. __________________ Joan, Bubba and Sissy-BEWARE OF PUPPY MILLS breathe in, breathe out, move on -jb

05-21-2008, 09:06 AM	#25
katelin YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,778	I wonder if your vet would schedule a c-section for you, at term, so that your baby doesn't have to go into labor and could be spayed at the same time? The puppies might have a chance for survival that way, and mom too. Personally, I'd be afraid of the shot to abort the puppies. Rather I'd take extra good care of her during pregnancy and schedule a c-section for day 62-63 of the pregnancy. Either way, its a hard decision. Wishing you the best of luck. __________________ *LaVail Yorkshire Terriers*

05-21-2008, 09:24 AM	#26
diggy4 Bella Boo & Diggy Too! Donating GS Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Detroit Posts: 6,156 Blog Entries: 5	well we are only human and what happened is done...your being very responsible and thinking this thru well and exploring every avenue which is wonderful to see. I admire you posting it publically too as yes, you get the nasty posters but its par same thing different day but you also have gotten wonderful advice and I have learned a thing or 2 myself so THANKS!!! Your what YT is all about! I hope all goes well with everything and best of luck to you all! Please keep us posted on your little ones progress....My thougths are with you 100%!!!! If you ever need and ear I am HERE!!! __________________ ALL DOGS GO TO HEAVEN

05-19-2008, 07:32 PM	#16
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	If it were me, I would terminate the pregnancy as well, for the same reasons that the previous posters have mentioned. At 5 years, her pelvic bones are 'set.' In addition, her small size puts her at an even greater risk. No female of that size should be purposely bred...regardless of how small the male and the other dogs from his line are. However, she is quite far along with the pups IF she is prego.... Hopefully the male was too young to 'seal the deal'--a very good possibility. Kudos to you for looking out for HER best interest...there are too many these days that are looking our for THIER selfish desires instead. Welcome to YT!

05-19-2008, 10:08 PM	#19
C C Kent YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Missouri Ozarks Posts: 452	I agree with the advice to keep your vet on the speed dial. She'll need constant supervision from this point. If you have steps in the house or going outside I would take great pains to keep her from using them. The puppies will take what they need even if she can't afford to give it so nutrition is very important now more than ever. I mix puppy food in starting at week four and move her to straight puppy food by week six. When the puppies are four weeks I start the transition back to adult maintenance. Sudden changes in diet are never a good idea. The main idea is to keep her eating, and give her all she wants. This will reduce the amount of muscle mass she loses as a result of the pregnancy and help her recover faster after the delivery. As a first time mommy she'll need extra attention and affection. The happier she is the less stress she will feel. If your vet thinks she may be able to deliver naturally you might want to give her small portions of yogurt a couple of times a day to help her calcium level. Calcium depletion can lead to uterine fatigue during delivery, making a c-section the only option. Please keep us posted on her progress, best wishes.

05-20-2008, 07:28 PM	#21
DONNADEE YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: MARIETTA GEORGIA Posts: 689	Wow,what a decision you had to make,i have a little girl also she is right a 4 pounds and when she was six months i got her spayed it scared me so much. so,i just wanted to let you know that we at yorkietalk are hear for you and care about whats happens with you and your little girl,so if you get scared and need some one to lean on pm me,my little abbey is 4 years old now.

05-20-2008, 07:43 PM	#22
rox626 YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 328	I don't post here very much especially since my three pound yorkie died. I wish you all the best. Hopefully everything will go well and you'll have time to get to the vet when the time comes if she needs a c section. At any rate please get her spayed. Back in 1980 our yorkie died at the age of 5. My father was under the assumption that female dogs got fat after spaying and since she'd never be unsupervised, we wouldn't have any "accidents". She ended up with Pyometra, a uterine infection, which can occur with unspayed females. She had to have a hysterectomy and I don't think she ever fully recovered, getting really sick a year later. She was a larger yorkie, weighing in at 13 pounds. After this sad experience, I didn't hesitate to get Debbie spayed at 6months when she was only 2.7 pounds. Best of luck to all of you. I feel bad for all the worry you must be going through.

05-21-2008, 10:01 AM	#27
Yorkiedaze My hairy-legged girls Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lompoc, ca. Posts: 12,228	Prayers will go out for your little girl that she comes out of this without any complications.

05-21-2008, 10:50 AM	#29
Kenna YT Addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 367	Just want to add that you did the right thing by having the vet involved. You sound like a caring person. I hope everything goes well.

05-21-2008, 11:29 AM	#30
wildcard Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 236	I would suggest you either: 1. Have her spayed now and terminate the pregnancy that way. That is the safest option for your bitch. Mismate shots can cause serious health problems and if you did not intend to breed her she should be spayed-- pyo infections are common in bitches of her age. 2. Wait for labor, attempt natural delivery, and be ready to section her. The size of the sire is not really an issue, generally in a true litter the puppies will stay a deliverable size, malpresentation at delivery causes far more issues than whelp size. If it is a singleton expect more complications as it may not produce the necessary hormones to cause labor and they also tend to be larger than a normal whelp (not always). Definitely x ray her the week prior to expected deliivery to get a headcount and also some idea of whelp size and location. You are at a distinct disadvantage because you do not know the due date because you had no pre-breeding progesterone test (so you don't know when she ovulated) and you don't even know the date of the breeding which would give you somewhat of a time frame. This is why I would not recommend an elective section-- if you do it too early the puppies will not survive as their lungs will not have the necessary lining they need to function. You might consider the use of progesterone testing to pinpoint a due date as she enters into her last week of pregnancy, that would help pinpoint a due date if you did want an elective section. Finally do not spay her at the same time as the section, do it at a separate surgery or you are taking a big risk with her. The disadvantage of allowing her to have the puppies is having two surgeries so that ultimately she is spayed and another is that because this was not intended I am guessing neither was screened for eyes, hearts or patella problems before the breeding occurred, so there is the risk of having unhealthy puppies (esp. Since the male at 6 mos is pretty much an unknown still healthwise). Of course if you have information about the health and longevity of dogs in the two pedigrees you can use that to help make your decision. Best of luck, being a breeder, intended or not, is tough!