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Thank you Nadia for explaining this. I know what you meant about dragging the food around. I was just confused because I was taught, when cooking you are supposed to make sure that raw meat juices are cleaned from counters, etc. to prevent the spread of bacteria and such. I didn't think you would get it from the dog licking you. I was just wondering about it getting on the floors and such. I have showed this thread to hubby and he still isn't convinced. He thinks we should cook the meat. Can you send me the link to the other forum so we could read up on it. Thanks |
Links Of Interest! I hear ya about convincing the hubby! I had to work on mine just as well! But I showed him my evidence from my research and appealed to his common sense. He loves our dogs just as much as I do and wants their best which I'm sure is the case with you guys as well. But don't just take MY word and experience for it, there's tons of good reading stuff out there! These sites offer A LOT of info and it takes some time to read it all! But I advise you to NOT skip over anything. Especially read the "Boo Hiss" section from the first link on the far right! The second link is the most compelling in regards to the fears most people have associated with RAW feeding. Jane Anderson's Raw Learning Site The Many Myths of Raw Feeding The yahoo forum(s) and discussion groups I'm a member of; rawfeeding : Raw Feeding for dogs and cats! I'm a member of a few local groups and most cities now have local specific support groups as well! You're in Washington state, correct? PSRawFeedCo-op : Puget Sound Raw Feeding Co-op Good luck with convincing your loved ones! It's really a fun, exciting and eye opening experience for the entire family! My 7 year old son now says; "That's bad food" when seeing a kibble commercial on TV!..... :cool: :thumbup: :D I'm quite sure that when he's an adult and choses to have dogs, he won't make the same mistakes I made and will feed a species appropriate diet to his furry friend right from the start! Quote:
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ohhh I'm loving this thread! I just switched my two dogs to prey model raw two days ago. I have an older collie and a one year old yorkie. They are both doing great but I do have a question.... they both look to me to hold the meat for them. I started with chicken breasts on the first day and yesterday we had chicken legs and thighs. No stomach upset and they seem happy with it but they just don't quite know how to eat it. I don't really much like touching the raw meat although I imagine I'll get used to it but sitting there holding it is certainly not what I had anticipated. Any suggestions? I'm hoping they'll get the hang of it soon. :) Also, I plan to stay within the chicken family for a few weeks to allow their system to adjust, but do you think chicken livers would be too much to add at this time? I read it was a bit rich and I'm trying to take it slow but I think my older collie might be a tad contipated, but she was on the kibble so she might be fine but thought I might try that? What do you think? |
thank you sooo much for the post! My girls are currently on Premade NV raw but they get chicking wings once in a while and We love feeding raw! they are super healthy and super strong! oh, gotta love the small poops!:D |
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I'm still scared but interested as we are in process of building this year and are going to be raising our own, beef, chickens, sheep, goats etc so would have a very viable organic source for this. How do I get past go, so to speak. I have my 18 month old yorkie--whi I give bits of raw meat when I am cooking dinner and my DS's 14 year old lab who gets the squids with anything other than a good quality kibble. Sorry for all the q's.:o |
Yippppeeee! Another PMR feeder! First, A big ol' "Howdy" to the OP! Good to see another PMR (prey model RAW) feeder, here. There is a long thread, here discussing the benefits / differences in PMR and pre-packaged. A LOT of info, there. Also, the links in my sig line have tons of information. |
Ok, I know it's not prey model but I want to work my way to that. I was wondering if I can give my dogs a NV medallion in the morning and then let them free feed with Orijen puppy kibble for the rest of the day. Someone mentioned waiting between raw and kibble. How long do you have to wait? |
Holding the food??? tjdmom, You made the switch!!! Hooray to that! Two days really hasn't been that long so it's a pretty common occurence for dogs that never had the prey model experience to not "get it" at first. Kibble is sprayed with good smelling fat and raw meat doesn't have that strong of a smell to it. Some dogs don't even get that this is supposed to be food. Holding it a little in the beginning is absolutely normal. My oldest likes me to sit and watch him for a bit and I egg him on by saying; "eat your boney, eat your boney!!!!!" If your pups don't get any other source of food, then they'll learn even faster! If a dog also gets kibble or pre-made or whatever then he's more likely to be reluctant about having to "work" on his food vs. gulping it down! I also walk/exercise my dogs before a feed and that seems to do the trick every time! That also mimics the chase a wild wolf does to stalk, chase and kill his prey. But that one is more in my head I think, LOL :D Feeding organ meats is an important aspect of any raw feeding but you are right to be concerned. A dog new to all of this can get the runny poops if not used the organ meats. But do try to give just a LITTLE once a day. Then gradually step up the game until you reach about 10%. Meaning that if your dogs eats 1 pound of chicken (for example) per day then he should be getting 1.6 ounces of organ meats of any source. Don't be a slave to the numbers though, these are just guidelines. Let your dog(s) be your guide. Constipation in a prey model dog usually means he's getting to much bone which is the case for my senior Yorkie and seems to be the case with other senior dogs. Giving your Colli some livers and gizzards should solve the his problem. This might be an indication however that he will need extra muscle meat and organs on a daily basis. I feed my Toy a tad bit extra muscle meat and organs everyday, aside from his usual meaty bones. Yes, stick with the chicken for at least a week if not more. ;) Too much variety, too soon is a mistake many beginners make. Dogs, unlike humans will not complain about; "Chicken for dinner-AGAIN!!!???:eek:" LOL Quote:
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Poops! Good for you and your babies! Yep, loving those poops! LOL :D:D:D Only dog lovers get that one, right, girls!? P.S. I LOVE the name "Tumi", that's so cute! Quote:
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glad to see a Prey Model thread here :) :thumbup: so many people dont know the difference between the packaged raw and prey model so this is a great educational tool! thanks to the OP for this thread and i look forward to learning and helping out where i can here :) |
Omg!!! ....I so envy you! Raising your own organic animals to be able to feed to my babies is a dream come true!!!! How lucky your dogs are! :) You said you're still reluctant to switch? What exactly are you stalling on? What do you need help with? Maybe we could nudge you! :p Quote:
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Thank you! Hi Abbie's Mom, So glad to see you here! Thank you so much for contributing to the information! :):):) Quote:
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Cool, another one!!!! Hi!!! :) Welcome and thanks for contributing! I agree, information is really crucial! Quote:
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Easing your way into RAW Don't worry, I won't flame you for that! ;) You should wait 12 hours in between raw and kibble, others do it differently and some even combine the two. I personally do not advise this, however, if you really WANT to feed the kibble then you can. But why would you? Variety? One Medallion won't be enough unless you have a sub 2 pounder. Quote:
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Waking up to a kitchen explosion of his digestive distress is not fun. :( |
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