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autumn star 02-17-2008 03:21 PM
Roached back!
 
Can anyone find a picture of a yorkie w/a roach back? I tried to google it but came up empty handed!
Any help would be great.
Thanks a bunch
Amie

sexiixtc 02-17-2008 03:23 PM
somebody had a yorkie with a roach back when I signed up to this site.. I can't remember who:confused:
I will try finding one

sexiixtc 02-17-2008 03:29 PM
I can't find anything either:confused:

kalina82 02-17-2008 03:39 PM
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Morgan doesn't have a straight topline. i'm not sure if its considered roachback tho.

sexiixtc 02-17-2008 03:43 PM
awww.. nekkie!!! no it's not roach back

autumn star 02-17-2008 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1773025)
Morgan doesn't have a straight topline. i'm not sure if its considered roachback tho.
The reason I ask is because since I have had Blaze groomed (He got a pretty short haircut) his back looks somewhat like Morgans - I never noticed it before his grooming. Its way more noticable since he got a hair cut. I don't think its as curved as Morgans but very similar.
Morgan is adorable btw!!!

autumn star 02-17-2008 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sexiixtc (Post 1773046)
awww.. nekkie!!! no it's not roach back
how can you tell that its not roach back?

kalina82 02-17-2008 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by autumn star (Post 1773069)
The reason I ask is because since I have had Blaze groomed (He got a pretty short haircut) his back looks somewhat like Morgans - I never noticed it before his grooming. Its way more noticable since he got a hair cut. I don't think its as curved as Morgans but very similar.
Morgan is adorable btw!!!
i can't tell either when morgan has more hair. In this picture the curve is exaggerated. its not that bad usually. i think its just the way she is standing.

yorkiekist 02-17-2008 03:53 PM
I could be wrong, but I always thought a roached back was a dog that does not have a straight top-line. Like a low tail set or low in the front makes the back look like a roached back. Its not level from withers to tail set. A really roached back is the Bedlington Terrier. This is correct for this breed but not the Yorkie.

MyFairLacy 02-17-2008 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sexiixtc (Post 1773046)
awww.. nekkie!!! no it's not roach back
I thought any kind of hump was considered a roach back? I've always thought Rylie had a roach back. Here is the best picture I could find showing it...his isn't too bad

grayxie 02-17-2008 04:51 PM
Zippy has one but I think that was more of a result of his back injury.

mypreciouspups 02-17-2008 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1773309)
I thought any kind of hump was considered a roach back? I've always thought Rylie had a roach back. Here is the best picture I could find showing it...his isn't too bad
I am with you, if a yorkie does not have a straight topline then it is a roach back... when they hump up like this..

sexiixtc 02-17-2008 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by autumn star (Post 1773075)
how can you tell that its not roach back?
I know that because Kayah has the same back....

I was talking to a reputable breeder (and a couple other people) at the Yorkie Fair.. and I said that she had roach back.. they all looked at me like I was nuts and when into explaining what roach back is and what it looks like (I don't remember though, sorry)..

They said that you can semi-straighten it out by "hanging" them at a table edge (hold them to the edge... hopefully you know what I mean)..

I didn't do that I just hold her in the air for a few seconds every so often.. It seemed to help

Erin 02-17-2008 04:58 PM
Random question - can it be caused by bad luxating patellas? Sammy walks funny because of her LP's and they will be fixed next month. I should take a side-shot before and after. The trouble is getting her to hold still.

sexiixtc 02-17-2008 05:05 PM
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here is Kayah at 5 months.. it actually looked EXACTLY like Rylie's.. I guess the angle of the camera didn't capture it.. but it has improved into (almost) straight

MyFairLacy 02-17-2008 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sexiixtc (Post 1773437)
here is Kayah at 5 months.. it actually looked EXACTLY like Rylie's.. I guess the angle of the camera didn't capture it.. but it has improved into (almost) straight
it looks pretty straight to me in that picture

kalina82 02-17-2008 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Erin (Post 1773408)
Random question - can it be caused by bad luxating patellas? Sammy walks funny because of her LP's and they will be fixed next month. I should take a side-shot before and after. The trouble is getting her to hold still.
a hunched back can be caused by LPs in both back legs. i fostered a chi that was born with grade 4 LPs and her walked all hunched over all the time until i had her knees fixed. now she has a semi-straight back. not perfect but definately better then what it was before.

YorkieRose 02-17-2008 05:13 PM
top line
 
A roach back is a bit like a cat hunching over..it can be slight or severe..
Morgans is a slight roach, she tends to drop her rump and round it off..which is fine for a pet, IMO...but I think Rylie and Morgan do not have it...

kalina82 02-17-2008 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 1773463)
A roach back is a bit like a cat hunching over..it can be slight or severe..
Morgans is a slight roach, she tends to drop her rump and round it off..which is fine for a pet, IMO...but I think Rylie and Morgan do not have it...
it doesn't effect her in the slightest. i have to get a normal picture of it. its really not that bad. however when her tail is tucked its more pronounced then when the tail is up.

sexiixtc 02-17-2008 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1773448)
it looks pretty straight to me in that picture
I couldn't find any other pic of her back.. it was something inbetween Morgan and Rylie's

autumn star 02-17-2008 05:28 PM
Im trying so hard to get a picture of Blaze but everytime I go near him w/the camera he sits down and looks at me! I will have to keep trying.
My hubby just thinks he is going through a akward stage. He is still pretty skinny and his legs look long but they really arent. He is only 5 months!

mypreciouspups 02-17-2008 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 1773463)
A roach back is a bit like a cat hunching over..it can be slight or severe..
Morgans is a slight roach, she tends to drop her rump and round it off..which is fine for a pet, IMO...but I think Rylie and Morgan do not have it...
Thanks, I knew a breeder would come on and say if it was or not.. I have gracie that has a roach back.. she was in a brace at 4 weeks as she could not walk.. this left her with a roach back.. but as a pet, she is to sweetest yorkie in the world.. and we love her so much...

I do not have a side picture of her..

Princessyorkies 02-17-2008 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1773025)
Morgan doesn't have a straight topline. i'm not sure if its considered roachback tho.
Not a roach back.
What a cutie.

YorkieRose 02-17-2008 05:37 PM
Morgan
 
A roach back is not a health problem as a rule...it is a structure fault, all dogs have faults. Morgans is very slight and not cat-like roach..just a slight hunch.

autumn star 02-17-2008 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 1773591)
A roach back is not a health problem as a rule...it is a structure fault, all dogs have faults. Morgans is very slight and not cat-like roach..just a slight hunch.
Like I said, I did not notice it on Blaze until he got the dreaded chihuahua hair cut!

bjh 02-17-2008 05:58 PM
It is easier to tell if you dog is roach backed by watching them move at a trot. If the back is humped up in the middle (like a Beddington Terrier) when the dog is moving then it is roached back. A dog with a roach back can be stacked to make the topline look level but it cannot be hidden when the dog is moving. Many yorkies have low tail sets and rounded croups but that is not the same as a roach back.

YorkieRose 02-18-2008 03:37 AM
roach
 
This is quite true...but I see her top line slightly reminiscent of a BEDLINGTON TERRIER...but it is in the eye of the beholder...

autumn star 02-18-2008 12:55 PM
I took Blaze to the vet today and he said that he did not have Roach back. He seems to stand that way when he is nervous but not when he is running and playing.

lil miss molly 02-26-2008 07:11 PM
Exactly why is it called roach back.Is the term roach refering to the bug if so that is a disgusting term for such cute fur babies and we need to change it to something else.like cat back or something.Also could that be passed on to their puppies?

llewellynbook 03-13-2008 07:40 PM
Severely roached back?
 
Hello all,

I have been told that the Yorkie I am to get has a 'severely roached back.' She was described as 'taller than she is long,' because of the roached back. All the posts seem to talk only about mild cases. I am nervous about possible medical problems later on. Can you help me?


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