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kathrynS · 01-02-2008, 04:40 AM

Our poor pup before Romeo was a diabetic, and there was nothing you could do to get rid of the bad breath. He was a shih-tzu. He has sinced passed but that is what everyone remembers about him the most. His breath. So I would have the vet check for that.

jamiesaari · 01-02-2008, 05:59 AM

Thanks for all the great advice ... I very much appreciate it.

Bakery Lady - Can you please give me the names of the businesses in Winnipeg that sell specialty food?

Thanks,

Jamie

jamiesaari · 01-02-2008, 06:16 PM

We're seeing the vet tomorrow afternoon in an attempt to medically see if there is something causing her bad breath and stinky farts. I'll let you know what the vet says ... LOL

jamiesaari · 01-03-2008, 09:18 PM

Just wanted to thank everyone for the advice and feedback regarding Tika's stinky breath and farts.

Today was Tika's first veterinary appointment and I am so glad I belong to a barter exchange (that allows my business to trade services with other businesses without paying cash). Her vet bill is going to be nearly $4,000 altogether.

Firstly, she suffers from patellar luxation - a condition where her knee cap pops out of its socket. Treatment involves a pretty intense, specialized surgery where they have to bring in a specialist for the surgery. I did some research about the condition and have cut and pasted the details below.

Her stinky breath is from having dental disease. I had compared Tika's teeth to my previous rescue, Annie's teeth and thought Tika's looked fine. But Tika needs to have a few teeth extracted and needs a good cleaning.

Tika coughs when she gets excited and sounded like a cat coughing up a furball. I worried about this so the vet did an x-ray on her chest and vocal cords. Everything is fine and she probably has kennel cough, which he will treat her for at the same time as he extracts her teeth. He'll give her a strong antibiotic for both.

As for the stinky farts, I'm going to try to put her on a dog food that is geared towards dogs with allergies. We'll see if that helps with her digestion - and makes her gas more bearable ... LOL.

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What is patellar luxation?

The knee cap (patella) normally fits into a groove in the thigh bone (femur). The patella slides up and down in this groove as the leg bends and straightens. Patellar luxation means that the knee cap has slipped out of the groove. There are several reasons why this happens, including malformation of the groove. Luxation may happen only occasionally, or may happen continuously. The knee cap may pop back into the groove on its own, or your veterinarian may need to push it back into place. Your dog will be lame when the patella is out of place. Over time your dog may develop other degenerative joint changes, such as osteoarthritis.

How is patellar luxation inherited?

The mode of inheritance is not yet known. Some researchers think that this disease may be polygenic.

What breeds are affected by patellar luxation?

This disease is inherited in the following breeds: miniature and toy poodle, Yorkshire terrier, pomeranian, Pekingese, chihuahua, Boston terrier, basset hound, shih tzu, silky terrier, and lhasa apso. (Patellar luxation may also occur in any breed as a reult of trauma.)

For many breeds and many disorders, the studies to determine the mode of inheritance or the frequency in the breed have not been carried out, or are inconclusive. We have listed breeds for which there is a consensus among those investigating in this field and among veterinary practitioners, that the condition is significant in this breed.

What does patellar luxation mean to your dog & you?

When present, the condition is usually evident in young dogs by around 6 months of age, but if mild it may go unnoticed until the dog is older. When the knee cap is out of place, your dog will be lame and may refuse to bear weight, or his/her knee may be "locked". The severity of the condition varies widely. In mild cases, the knee cap may only slip out of place occasionally, causing your dog to "hop" for a few steps, and then it may slide back into the groove on its own. In severe cases, the knee cap slips out of place more often, or is never in a normal position. It may not go back into the groove on its own and your veterinarian may need to push it back into place.

As a result of patellar luxation, your dog may develop other degenerative joint changes, such as osteoarthritis. If your dog has a mild case of this disease, you may not notice the actual luxation, but your dog may eventually develop pain due to osteoarthritis.

How is patellar luxation diagnosed?

Your veterinarian will diagnose this disease based on physical examination and palpation. He/she may take radiographs to see if your dog has other problems (such as osteoarthritis) as a result of this disease.

How is patellar luxation treated?

The treatment and long term outcome (prognosis) depend on the severity of disease (how often the knee cap slips out of place, and how easily it slips back into the normal position), and whether there are other problems such as osteoarthritis. Moderate or severe cases often require surgery to make sure that the knee cap stays in the groove in the femur, and to prevent painful osteoarthritis. Exercise restriction is important for a period after surgery, and the results are usually very good.

Breeding Advice

Affected dogs, as well as their parents, their litter-mates, and any dog which has had surgery for patellar luxation, should not be bred. The Orthopedic Foundation of America - www.offa.org - and Institute for Genetic Disease Control in Animals - www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/gdc/gdc.html - have registries for this condition.

jamiesaari · 01-03-2008, 10:04 PM

I snuggled my darling Tika in some warm, cozy sheets tonight.

She probably thinks I'm pampering and spoiling her because I love her so much.

That is true, but I have an ulterior motive. Wrapping her in sheets keeps those stinky farts from filling the room ... LOL

Judy in Waco · 01-04-2008, 02:44 AM

Bless her heart! I am so glad you took her to the vet. Oh my!

It is a good thing you have the system that you're on, that's a painful vet bill!

Prayers for all of you. Have you scheduled the surgery yet?

jamiesaari · 01-04-2008, 10:27 AM

We're doing teeth on Friday, Jan. 11th and I'm waiting back to hear from a specialist in regards to having her knee surgery shortly.

Judy in Waco · 01-04-2008, 10:30 AM

I'll have her in my thoughts and prayers on Friday, please keep us updated.

You are a special angel for her.

jamiesaari · 01-10-2008, 07:45 AM

Tomorrow's the big day for Tika - she's getting a few teeth extracted and having her teeth cleaned. After that - her breath should be more tolerable.

It's funny, but my daughter Hannah starts to play with her and then is suddenly aghast because of the bad breath and just wants to get away from Tika. It's cute and funny, but sad because Tika wants to play longer. Hopefully after tomorrow her breath will be much better.

I also cured the stinky farts by taking my vet's advice and putting her on food for dogs with allergies. She has a sensitive stomach and this has stopped the bad gas and stinky bowel movements.

jamiesaari · 01-12-2008, 10:39 AM

Tika has been home one day now since she had six teeth extracted as a result of dental disease. They cleaned her teeth and the difference is truly like day and night.

There is virtually no smell and I haven't even noticed any stinky farts. I'm wondering if the toxins from her mouth may have been going into her body and causing the bad gas.

Now nobody minds holding her and allowing her to give them kisses.

01-04-2008, 02:44 AM	#21
Judy in Waco Gizzy & Kandi spoil me Donating Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Waco, Texas Posts: 8,477	Bless her heart! I am so glad you took her to the vet. Oh my! It is a good thing you have the system that you're on, that's a painful vet bill! Prayers for all of you. Have you scheduled the surgery yet? __________________ The fullness of our heart is expressed in our eyes, in our touch, in what we write, in what we say, in the way we walk, the way we receive, the way we need. -Mother Teresa ( RIP Gizmo 3/9/07-8/18/12)

01-04-2008, 10:30 AM	#23
Judy in Waco Gizzy & Kandi spoil me Donating Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Waco, Texas Posts: 8,477	I'll have her in my thoughts and prayers on Friday, please keep us updated. You are a special angel for her. __________________ The fullness of our heart is expressed in our eyes, in our touch, in what we write, in what we say, in the way we walk, the way we receive, the way we need. -Mother Teresa ( RIP Gizmo 3/9/07-8/18/12)

01-12-2008, 10:39 AM	#25
jamiesaari Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 241	Tika has been home one day now since she had six teeth extracted as a result of dental disease. They cleaned her teeth and the difference is truly like day and night. There is virtually no smell and I haven't even noticed any stinky farts. I'm wondering if the toxins from her mouth may have been going into her body and causing the bad gas. Now nobody minds holding her and allowing her to give them kisses. __________________ "How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world." - Anne Frank

01-02-2008, 04:40 AM	#16
kathrynS Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MA Posts: 726	Our poor pup before Romeo was a diabetic, and there was nothing you could do to get rid of the bad breath. He was a shih-tzu. He has sinced passed but that is what everyone remembers about him the most. His breath. So I would have the vet check for that.

01-02-2008, 05:59 AM	#17
jamiesaari Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 241	Thanks for all the great advice ... I very much appreciate it. Bakery Lady - Can you please give me the names of the businesses in Winnipeg that sell specialty food? Thanks, Jamie

01-02-2008, 06:16 PM	#18
jamiesaari Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 241	We're seeing the vet tomorrow afternoon in an attempt to medically see if there is something causing her bad breath and stinky farts. I'll let you know what the vet says ... LOL

01-03-2008, 09:18 PM	#19
jamiesaari Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 241	Just wanted to thank everyone for the advice and feedback regarding Tika's stinky breath and farts. Today was Tika's first veterinary appointment and I am so glad I belong to a barter exchange (that allows my business to trade services with other businesses without paying cash). Her vet bill is going to be nearly $4,000 altogether. Firstly, she suffers from patellar luxation - a condition where her knee cap pops out of its socket. Treatment involves a pretty intense, specialized surgery where they have to bring in a specialist for the surgery. I did some research about the condition and have cut and pasted the details below. Her stinky breath is from having dental disease. I had compared Tika's teeth to my previous rescue, Annie's teeth and thought Tika's looked fine. But Tika needs to have a few teeth extracted and needs a good cleaning. Tika coughs when she gets excited and sounded like a cat coughing up a furball. I worried about this so the vet did an x-ray on her chest and vocal cords. Everything is fine and she probably has kennel cough, which he will treat her for at the same time as he extracts her teeth. He'll give her a strong antibiotic for both. As for the stinky farts, I'm going to try to put her on a dog food that is geared towards dogs with allergies. We'll see if that helps with her digestion - and makes her gas more bearable ... LOL. ************************************************ What is patellar luxation? The knee cap (patella) normally fits into a groove in the thigh bone (femur). The patella slides up and down in this groove as the leg bends and straightens. Patellar luxation means that the knee cap has slipped out of the groove. There are several reasons why this happens, including malformation of the groove. Luxation may happen only occasionally, or may happen continuously. The knee cap may pop back into the groove on its own, or your veterinarian may need to push it back into place. Your dog will be lame when the patella is out of place. Over time your dog may develop other degenerative joint changes, such as osteoarthritis. How is patellar luxation inherited? The mode of inheritance is not yet known. Some researchers think that this disease may be polygenic. What breeds are affected by patellar luxation? This disease is inherited in the following breeds: miniature and toy poodle, Yorkshire terrier, pomeranian, Pekingese, chihuahua, Boston terrier, basset hound, shih tzu, silky terrier, and lhasa apso. (Patellar luxation may also occur in any breed as a reult of trauma.) For many breeds and many disorders, the studies to determine the mode of inheritance or the frequency in the breed have not been carried out, or are inconclusive. We have listed breeds for which there is a consensus among those investigating in this field and among veterinary practitioners, that the condition is significant in this breed. What does patellar luxation mean to your dog & you? When present, the condition is usually evident in young dogs by around 6 months of age, but if mild it may go unnoticed until the dog is older. When the knee cap is out of place, your dog will be lame and may refuse to bear weight, or his/her knee may be "locked". The severity of the condition varies widely. In mild cases, the knee cap may only slip out of place occasionally, causing your dog to "hop" for a few steps, and then it may slide back into the groove on its own. In severe cases, the knee cap slips out of place more often, or is never in a normal position. It may not go back into the groove on its own and your veterinarian may need to push it back into place. As a result of patellar luxation, your dog may develop other degenerative joint changes, such as osteoarthritis. If your dog has a mild case of this disease, you may not notice the actual luxation, but your dog may eventually develop pain due to osteoarthritis. How is patellar luxation diagnosed? Your veterinarian will diagnose this disease based on physical examination and palpation. He/she may take radiographs to see if your dog has other problems (such as osteoarthritis) as a result of this disease. How is patellar luxation treated? The treatment and long term outcome (prognosis) depend on the severity of disease (how often the knee cap slips out of place, and how easily it slips back into the normal position), and whether there are other problems such as osteoarthritis. Moderate or severe cases often require surgery to make sure that the knee cap stays in the groove in the femur, and to prevent painful osteoarthritis. Exercise restriction is important for a period after surgery, and the results are usually very good. Breeding Advice** Affected dogs, as well as their parents, their litter-mates, and any dog which has had surgery for patellar luxation, should not be bred. The Orthopedic Foundation of America - www.offa.org - and Institute for Genetic Disease Control in Animals - www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/gdc/gdc.html - have registries for this condition.

01-04-2008, 10:27 AM	#22
jamiesaari Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 241	We're doing teeth on Friday, Jan. 11th and I'm waiting back to hear from a specialist in regards to having her knee surgery shortly.

01-10-2008, 07:45 AM	#24
jamiesaari Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 241	Tomorrow's the big day for Tika - she's getting a few teeth extracted and having her teeth cleaned. After that - her breath should be more tolerable. It's funny, but my daughter Hannah starts to play with her and then is suddenly aghast because of the bad breath and just wants to get away from Tika. It's cute and funny, but sad because Tika wants to play longer. Hopefully after tomorrow her breath will be much better. I also cured the stinky farts by taking my vet's advice and putting her on food for dogs with allergies. She has a sensitive stomach and this has stopped the bad gas and stinky bowel movements.