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12-31-2007, 06:57 PM | #16 |
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12-31-2007, 07:06 PM | #17 |
Slave to Princess Chloe Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NJ
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| So, I bought the ginger cookie tonight and will give it a try tom. How much ahead of time should I give it to her? Does she need to be on an empty stomach? |
12-31-2007, 07:10 PM | #18 |
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| Hmmm...I'm not sure about just a one-time use.
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12-31-2007, 07:13 PM | #19 |
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| I don't think one time will be a prob. Chloe seems fine.... |
12-31-2007, 07:18 PM | #20 |
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| The aggressiveness probably comes on after some time of use...Also, not all dogs will react that way either. I'll try to find a link, but as you said, I don't think one time would make a difference.
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12-31-2007, 07:34 PM | #21 |
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| I give it to Ellie 10-20 minutes before. I like her to have an empty stomach but the last time she didn't and did fine on a two hour trip.
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12-31-2007, 08:03 PM | #22 | |
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I always wonder about this....I know they said it is better to have an empty stomach when travel.....but how long does she need to be on an empty stomach? How much time in advance I should stop given any food to her? | |
12-31-2007, 08:12 PM | #23 |
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| Bonine works great, I give mine 1/4 of a pill (they say you can give 1/2 a pill) an hour before traveling and they do not get the drugged out effect, they are just calm and not sick. It is a human product. I first heard about it thru another show breeder who is a nurse. I get it at the pharmacy over the counter. Deana Prestigeous |
12-31-2007, 08:17 PM | #24 | |
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I will try out the ginger cookie tom and see how it goes..if not, I will try Bonine....thanks!! | |
01-01-2008, 02:59 PM | #25 |
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| I wanted to let you read the medical version of how Ace is described..Dogs are like humans, not every one reacts to drugs the same and it is known to have profound reactions...I know a few of our Vets here in town give this drug freely and feel its the answer to motion sickness, agression or fear..We used it once on our Australian SHephard because when he heard fireworks he went crazy with fear...when he was on the Ace, his eyes would roll back in his head, he couldn't move and it scared me to death!!!!We also tried it once on a Cat I was transporting for my daughter to her when she moved off to college..the same reaction, eyes rolling back, unable to move..and after that I said, No More of this crap!!! I'd rather deal with the prob. or find another alternative...Now with our Yorkies, we have one, Bogus that has car sickness..so, I limit his food before the trips..he gets little nibbles of dog biscuits every few hours..and very limited on fluids. Now this is for a 3-4 hour trip...He has to be in the kennel where he can't look out the window and only see us and he does so much better doing these few things...I like the ginger snaps..I'm going to try those next time instead of biscuits....Ace just scares me...Happy New Year! Steph Routes IV, IM, Oral Acepromazine or Acetylpromazine (More commonly known as ACP, Ace, or by the trade name Atravet or "Acezine 2" etc, number depending on mg/ml dose) is one of the phenothiazine derivative psychotropic drugs, used little in humans, however frequently in animals as a sedative and antiemetic. Its principal value is in quietening and calming frightened and aggressive animals. The standard pharmaceutical preparation, acepromazine maleate, is used extensively in equine, feline, and canine; especially as a pre-anesthetic agent often in conjunction with Atropine, and often an opiate such as morphine or buprenorphine. Its depressive cardiopulmonary effects can be profound and as such is not recommended for use in geriatric or debilitated animals, (often substituted with midazolam in these cases, or left out of the premed cocktail all together). [edit] Administration Canine: When used as a premedication it is commonly administered via the subcutaneous route. ACP should not be used in sighthounds. In the Boxer, it tends to cause a problem called first degree heart block, a potentially serious arrhythmia of the heart. It also causes a profound hypotension (severe lowering of the blood pressure) in many Boxers that receive the drug. On the Veterinary Information Network, a computer network for practicing veterinarians, an announcement was placed in the cardiology section entitled "Acepromazine and Boxers."
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08-07-2008, 10:39 AM | #26 |
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| Aceapromazine? NO!!! My vet will only prescribe this harmful drug under dire circumstances. It is NEVER A DRUG OF CHOICE EVEN for behavioral problems (training is) or for car sickness. It depresses the CNS and in general, she makes no bones about it--stay away from ACE if at all possible. I have a Yorkie who gets violently car sick and she did prescribe Cerenia (worked like a charm) but this can only be used for two successive days if traveling. Yesterday, I had to take this Yorkie to the vet which was 25 miles away and I knew that Cerenia was not what I should use on shorter trips. I tried BONINE and was totally shocked what a 1/2 of the chewable (disguised in food) did for him. He was fine all day, riding for miles on end etc. I hate giving drugs of any kind but all the natural remedies I have tried didn't make a dent. HOpefully, with more car rides and lowering the Bonine dose, he will get over this disgusting motion sickness. |
08-07-2008, 01:20 PM | #27 |
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| I have carsick problems with Gracie. Monday I took her for her shots and the vet is 10 mins away. When I put her in the vehicle she starts panting and shaking. Down the road she starts foaming. We got to the vet finished there all the while she was still shaking and drooling. She stayed that way for the trip back and as soon as I turned the car off she threw up!
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08-15-2008, 11:06 AM | #28 |
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| Carsickness (con't) Ok, Acepromazine is ok OCCASIONALLY, IF IT EVEN WORKS. But it is not the car sickness drug of choice because if you travel a lot you are constantly lowering the blood pressure of your dog and this is just not healthy. No drugs are healthy to take but darn it, some of us need help!! So, I have discovered that two things that have been very helpful, used judiciously, with my very car sick Yorkie who has also upchucked right in my driveway as I was parking and HOME TO STAY <ARRRRRGH>. But most of the time he just pukes five minutes into any ride. Since I like to travel and since I now have THREE DOGS I absolutely cannot tolerate this mess along I-95. Give me a break!!! Here are the two drugs that have made the last three rides (one very long and the other two just 20-30 miles long) so pleasant I wanted to cry. 1) Cerenia: can only be used for two days in a row but for a very long trip where you are going to vacation for a while, this was miraculous for Buddy. I have used it once since I am still away from home. I will use it again when it is time to take the five hour drive. WONDERFULLY SUCCESSFUL!! No drowsiness, no side effects, just great. 2) Bonine: I have used this just TWICE for longish day trips of about an hours length, and just recently. I had tried dramamine and it was useless and it made Buddy a little stupid.So, because I couldn't use the Cerenia for such a short trip I tried 1/2 Bonine pill and my God, it worked like a charm. So both of these did work FOR ME. Granted, I have no illusions about taking Buddy on daily rides or lugging him everywhere with me...no way. I may take him more often as I try to wean from the Bonine etc. because maybe, just maybe, I can finally desensitize him to the car. But if you are going to take your dog out DAILY or insist that your pooch always go with you in the car, you cannot used meds--period. You will kill the liver. Anyway, I THINK that Bonine plus frequent rides COULD mean that your pooch adjusts to the car one day because each time she does not throw up in the car, it is a GOOD EXPERIENCE and there is a chance that with practice your dog (and mine) could learn to ride drug free and happy. Who knows????? |
08-15-2008, 12:09 PM | #29 |
Slave to Princess Chloe Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NJ
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| Yea I thought it was odd that when my vet prescribed ACE for Chloe......I personally don't like any drug at all.........I think I am switching Vet......... |
08-15-2008, 12:19 PM | #30 |
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| I'd try the ginger snaps first. I don't know anything about the medicine.
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