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11-24-2007, 11:42 PM | #16 |
Lil' CoCo, Lotta Coffee. Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Africa
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| Thanks Lauren, you are too sweet! I am going to phone for an appointment tomorrow. He seems to be back to normal, playing with Coco etc. and nagging to swim... if ever we are bare feet or in shorts he thinks it's swim time! When I carry towels to the laundry he thinks I'm on my way to the pool, then the talking doesn't stop. Our weather seems to be improving, much higher temps , so we will swim with him more often. They both know they are not allowed to swim without us. I think his mouth is better after the cleaning, so now we can concentrate on his hip. I will update after our appointment. Hugs, Sheilagh
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11-25-2007, 11:15 PM | #17 |
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| Seilagh, I know it's monday morning your time now. I just wanted to post before going to bed. Please let us know tomorrow what the Vet says about Coffee. Lauren
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11-25-2007, 11:24 PM | #18 |
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11-26-2007, 11:00 AM | #19 |
Lil' CoCo, Lotta Coffee. Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Africa
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| I phoned the vet this morning ( not my vet, cousins brother in law) and spoke to receptionist, explaining situation, she said she would get him to phone me back to discuss whether or not to make app. just to examine or one to have anesthetic to do xrays, which would mean no food etc before. Guess what ? He didn't phone back - I know I should have phoned again - damn - I will phone first thing in the morning - This vet is in Pretoria - about an hour away, so I would rather not do two trips. I am in the delicate situation of not being able to ask usual vet for the xray done on Thursday as he is one of our closest friends, and I would hate for him to think I don't trust him. I really don't want to hurt his feelings but Coffee is my main concern so I will be doing this in secret I have heard that the vet in Pretoria is fantastic and specializes in small animal surgery. Coffee has been swimming and seems to be fine except for that butt waddle. Thanks to everyone for their thoughts and prayers. I will keep you posted.
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11-26-2007, 01:43 PM | #20 |
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| Sheilagh, I agree with you Hon, you can't worry about "hurt feelings" because Coffee's prognosis is what is so important right now, and you want him in the best possible hands. I am sure the Pretoria Vet will phone you in the next day or so. Being so well known, he is probably extremely busy. Be careful when you take the drive to Pretoria. Please have Kevin or your Son with you. I know that road is not safe, and for goodness sake, do NOT drive it alone after dark!!!! I am going out with Jack and will check back late tonight, when it is morning in Africa. Hugs, Lauren
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11-26-2007, 05:31 PM | #21 |
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| Hope you get good news about Coffee! Glad he's swimming and doing so well.
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11-27-2007, 02:35 AM | #22 |
Lil' CoCo, Lotta Coffee. Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Africa
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| I phoned the vet again this morning, left message again, he eventually called back. Had a very long chat with him. He is very understanding and recommends that Coffee has the op soon. As things stand now, - I have also phoned the other vet (friend) had a chat to him as well and I am taking Coffee to him at 2pm tomorrow. We will take things from there, but it looks as if my baby boy will have surgery soon The PTA vet says he will do it for me, but thinks I should go back to original vet, as he says "what if he visits and sees Coffee has had surgery" Very good point I will let you know when,'cause he and I are going to need LOTS of prayers on the day! Lauren, no fear of me going to Pretoria on my own - I am one of those poep bang people that doesn't drive on highways anymore. Have developed a fear of driving with cars speeding around me! Hope Mango girl is better today! Hugs to all, Sheilagh.
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11-27-2007, 09:24 PM | #23 | |
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I was rolling on the floor laughing when I saw the words "poep bang"...... I had to call my Mom over to show her. For my yankee friends and others - that is a favorite South African expression for "Sh*t scared" - and is pronounced "poop bung". Ag, it's just so lekker having you here on YT, Lauren
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11-28-2007, 12:47 PM | #24 |
Lil' CoCo, Lotta Coffee. Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Africa
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| Ok, so I take Coffee back to the Vet today... whew, this is driving me crazy ... He puts up the xray for me to see, and you can see that his left back femur is almost totaly out of the hip socket, and points out where the top of the femur is diseased... his poor little leg also looks so bowed: I guess thats the way he has learnt to walk to compensate, hence the bad waddle I am actually starting to cry right now, out of frustration and sadness for my baby boy...don't mind me , it's been one of those weeks. Then he examines Coffee, pokes and prods and Coffee is crying...and wanting to jump back into my arms, He then says " well you know he is a small dog, and this shouldn't worry him too much, even as he gets older" He has given us a ten day supply of Rimalyl, to see how it goes, and will have a follow up appointment then. We are having dinner with them on Friday and I have told Hubby to talk to him... I want to know if it's really not that serious or is he just,oh I don't know, just what??? Coco and Coffee are going to the groomer in Pretoria tomorrow and I'm thinking I'll take him to the other Vet, he happens to be just around the corner from the groomer. If something needs to be done, I want to do it now, before it's too late and the arthritis sets in. Then I will really hate myself. But, I don't want to put him through surgery if it is not needed. Kalina 82 - what should I do? Lauren, don't worry, Kevin is taking us How is Mango? Have you had more tests done? It is mango season here now, and every time I see one, I think of your baby and wonder how she is.
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11-28-2007, 12:51 PM | #25 |
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| Keeping you in my prayers, hugs.
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11-28-2007, 02:57 PM | #26 |
Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member | sorry the vet isn't giving you a straight answer as to if it needs to be done or not. do you have pictures of the x-rays that you could post? that would help.
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11-28-2007, 05:40 PM | #27 | |
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Argh! Sheilagh, I only just saw this now. To be honest with you, I don't like how dismissive your Vet was about Coffee's condition, that he should just "live with it". I definitely think a visit to the PTA Vet is in order. Poor you, it must have been so hard for you watching your baby cry during the examination. When you do take him to PTA, be sure to ask the Vet there about the potential for Arthritis setting in if Coffee does not have the surgery. It would be such a painful condition for the little guy to live with. I am sending you a GROOT hug to help soothe those tears. I will check here tomorrow morning before I leave the house. Lauren P.S. Mango's tests are being done on Monday.Enjoy those lekker S.A. Mangoes yourself, and have one for me
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11-29-2007, 01:13 PM | #28 |
Lil' CoCo, Lotta Coffee. Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Africa
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| We took Coffee to the Vet in Pretoria today. Although I had met him a few times at my cousin's house I didn't realize what a good Vet he is! Their consulting rooms and hospital are state of the art, really patient friendly and well set up. He examined Coffee , chatted to us and then went to do the xrays. He came back amazed - Coffee's problem is not in his hips - he does not have HD. he said it's possible that it "shifts" out of place occasionally, but this is not the root of the problem. On further examination he and another specialist ortho surgeon found the pain to be coming from the back. He has severe soft tissue damage, caused by some sort of repetitive action. We have to figure out what he is doing to cause the damage, but in the mean time he is to finish the Rimidyl, and then go on to Hills j/d. I know none of us like Hills, but he says their prescription food is good, and the j/d really works. He also mentioned Metacam suspension and cortisone as future treatments. He MUST swim a lot to strenghten the leg, as he has a lot of muscle loss. He may have to have physio too. He says as there is a lot of damage caused over a long period, it will take a long time to heal but I am so thankful he does not need surgery. At least now I know what to do, and how to help my boy. If things do not start improving in the near future, he will do a scan or an aspiration from the site. He chatted for ages, explaining all sorts of things, and although some were alarming, most was positive and put our minds at ease. I am SO glad we went - YAY for cousin's brother in law As for our original Vet, well I still think he is a good Vet, just maybe made a mistake this time. I am not going to say anything to him at this stage. I have to be tactful in this situation. On a lighter note, the groomer cut Coco's hair shorter on one side than the other It has taken so long to get it nearly floor length again, and shaved Coffee nearly bald I was so mad. I am so fed up as I am always recommending her to people. I bought Coffee a new T shirt at the Vet to cover his funny hair and keep him warm, it is cool here today again. I'm off to do some mending for my skinkid and the to bed and cuddle Coffee. Hugs to everyone and angel kisses for your furbies.
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11-29-2007, 07:01 PM | #29 |
Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orange County, California
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| Sheilagh, I am so happy that Coffee does not need surgery. It's so strange that some type of repetitive movement he is doing at home has caused this. Does he jump off surfaces such as a sofa or chair? What about steps in the house or garden - are some higher than others? I have had one horrible thought, but I feel I have to mention it. Could this G_D forbid be caused by anyone working in your household? Or, when he is being brushed, if it is daily, is he held in a position that could be stressful to his body? Or, is he sleeping in a bed that causes him to curl his body the wrong way? There are just so many alternatives to think of. I am still pleased for you though, that he does not have Hip Dysplasia. As for the groomers...... time for another parlor perhaps? Big hugs, Lauren
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