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eaglez28 10-06-2007 07:05 AM
~~~Which kinda Coat is this?~~~
 
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Which kind of coat do you think Stormy has?
She is 6 1/2 monhs old. I am starting to think it is Cotton. Her coat has always been wavy & thick!
I use a Conditioning Shampoo, Conditioner, Almond Oil & Water Rinse & a Leave-In Detangler. It is very hard to brush or Comb even when wet.

The 1st & 2nd pictures of her now at 6 mths old - the last one is her at 2 months old.

Yorkiekids 10-06-2007 07:39 AM
Has she had her first haircut yet? I think it's kind of hard to tell until they have their first cut.

tjdmom 10-06-2007 08:48 AM
Let me first preface this by telling you I am not an expert.... I would think though that she would have a silky coat because it seems to be reflecting the light which I thought was one was you can tell. How about her eyes when you take a photo? Do they reflect green or red/amber. If green, supposedly her hair should be silky. If red, cottony. Anyways, my guess is either a silk or possibly modified silk. Plus her puppy coat is probably growing out and I went thru a period of time where Zoe's hair was more difficult to brush thru and it was probably right around 6 months I think. Anyways, hopefully someone more knowledgeable will post for you. Good luck - she's a very pretty girl!

eaglez28 10-06-2007 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tjdmom (Post 1416253)
Let me first preface this by telling you I am not an expert.... I would think though that she would have a silky coat because it seems to be reflecting the light which I thought was one was you can tell. How about her eyes when you take a photo? Do they reflect green or red/amber. If green, supposedly her hair should be silky. If red, cottony. Anyways, my guess is either a silk or possibly modified silk. Plus her puppy coat is probably growing out and I went thru a period of time where Zoe's hair was more difficult to brush thru and it was probably right around 6 months I think. Anyways, hopefully someone more knowledgeable will post for you. Good luck - she's a very pretty girl!
Thanks - I had not heard of the coat reflecting light rule.
I have heard of eyes reflecting colors rule.
BUT.....
She is still a puppy - her eyes reflect blue right now.
Scruffy is a modified silk & his eyes reflect gold.
Kylee is a silk coat & her eyes reflect gold
Lexi is a wirey modified coat & her eyes reflect green.
My friend has a cotton coat & his eyes reflect purple!
Thanks for your tips...

Katydid 10-06-2007 03:32 PM
Looks Silky.
Beautiful Whatever kind of coat she has

MICKEYK 10-06-2007 05:44 PM
shes very pretty have you ever tried combing her before her bath? thats what my groomer told me to do and its not that bad to comb after.he said the hair will tend to matt up if you dont comb it first.just passing on a tip

eaglez28 10-07-2007 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MICKEYK (Post 1417150)
shes very pretty have you ever tried combing her before her bath? thats what my groomer told me to do and its not that bad to comb after.he said the hair will tend to matt up if you dont comb it first.just passing on a tip
Thanks for your tip!

Chelsea15 10-07-2007 06:28 PM
what is "modified silky"?

eaglez28 10-07-2007 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chelsea15 (Post 1419455)
what is "modified silky"?
Don't quote me on this now:
I think it is inbetween Silk & Cotton.
Here is a picture

Suzy 10-07-2007 08:18 PM
She is adorable-her coloring and coat reminds me of my Milli!
Milli has a silky coat, but it's really soft-I think that's what yours looks to have too.

Ladyhawk 10-08-2007 07:47 AM
Look at the hair on her paws, they would be the first to reflect her true coat texture.

Izzy Princess 10-08-2007 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 1420197)
Look at the hair on her paws, they would be the first to reflect her true coat texture.
I've never seen this posted before...what do we look for on the paws? What type of texture?

Also I think the coat looks like a silky.....Stormy reminds me of Izzy's coat.

eaglez28 10-08-2007 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy Princess (Post 1420271)
I've never seen this posted before...what do we look for on the paws? What type of texture?

Also I think the coat looks like a silky.....Stormy reminds me of Izzy's coat.
Izzy & Stormy's faces kinda look alike!
Does Izzy have a wavy coat too?
The breeder told me she was a silky coat.
But her coat is so hard to manage - maybe because it is soooooo thick.
I thought silky coat was easy to comb or brush.

eaglez28 10-08-2007 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk (Post 1420197)
Look at the hair on her paws, they would be the first to reflect her true coat texture.
Hi Tami - I hadn't heard of that.
I will check their paws when they awake - they are all crashed out right now.
Thanks for the tip.

Mardelin 10-08-2007 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglez28 (Post 1419423)
Thanks for your tip!
As a groomer and yorkie breeder/exhibitor....never brush a dry coat and never comb a wet coat...Never brush a dirty coat. Bathe, condition and let conditioner remain in coat for a minimum of 10 minutes....rinse and brush as you dry....long strokes, short jerky strokes break coat. Dry from underneath, belly and legs first...then layer by layer.......section by section.

If you have a mat....use the side of a small slicker brush to work it out....slowly, do not force it...just gently work.

Mardelin 10-08-2007 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglez28 (Post 1421566)
Izzy & Stormy's faces kinda look alike!
Does Izzy have a wavy coat too?
The breeder told me she was a silky coat.
But her coat is so hard to manage - maybe because it is soooooo thick.
I thought silky coat was easy to comb or brush.
Even silks matt....maintaining a coat takes alot of diligent hard work....show coats are bathed every 4 days, never brushed inbetween......kept in oil or in wraps.....wraps taken down daily.

Izzy Princess 10-08-2007 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglez28 (Post 1421566)
Izzy & Stormy's faces kinda look alike!
Does Izzy have a wavy coat too?
The breeder told me she was a silky coat.
But her coat is so hard to manage - maybe because it is soooooo thick.
I thought silky coat was easy to comb or brush.

She has a silky coat and still mats but just a little on her hind legs where she squats..lol. She isn't that hard to comb/brush but I wish I could learn how to wrap and use the oil on her to make her coat even better.

eaglez28 10-08-2007 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1421603)
Even silks matt....maintaining a coat takes alot of diligent hard work....show coats are bathed every 4 days, never brushed inbetween......kept in oil or in wraps.....wraps taken down daily.
Mary - I have been following all of your suggestions so far.
It is tempting to comb her inbetween baths!
I actually brush her coat out after bath with a lil slicker brush & then blowdry with the Isnis Brush because it is sooo thick!
Your right about hard work - I am not used to having one with such a thick coat. I guess its that champion blood line in her.

Mardelin 10-08-2007 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglez28 (Post 1421643)
Mary - I have been following all of your suggestions so far.
It is tempting to comb her inbetween baths!
I actually brush her coat out after bath with a lil slicker brush & then blowdry with the Isnis Brush because it is sooo thick!
Your right about hard work - I am not used to having one with such a thick coat. I guess its that champion blood line in her.
Don't use the slicker unless it's absolutely necessary....you'll do more damage than help.....dry her with the Inis, layer by layer.

BabyFidgette 10-08-2007 06:27 PM
I know that Baby's hair is pure silk b/c it doesn't matte at all. When she had her puppy coat it did a little. But now, not at all. Now, my two aunts have Yorkies with pure cotton coats and they get mattes all over...especially under their legs and neck. Plus, silky coats and cottony coats although both soft, feel different. ;)

Saleswman 10-08-2007 11:19 PM
The feet
 
I thought you were supposed to look at the feet first...to see if the coat is silky.....and the eye relection color.......?????

Mary, this is where you can jump in....LOL:):)

Monday 10-08-2007 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tjdmom (Post 1416253)
Let me first preface this by telling you I am not an expert.... I would think though that she would have a silky coat because it seems to be reflecting the light which I thought was one was you can tell. How about her eyes when you take a photo? Do they reflect green or red/amber. If green, supposedly her hair should be silky. If red, cottony. Anyways, my guess is either a silk or possibly modified silk. Plus her puppy coat is probably growing out and I went thru a period of time where Zoe's hair was more difficult to brush thru and it was probably right around 6 months I think. Anyways, hopefully someone more knowledgeable will post for you. Good luck - she's a very pretty girl!
Monday has a cottony coat (so I have been told)
yet her eyes shine green/amber when we take pictures ....
It is probably best to ask a breeder in person or a groomer ...

Mardelin 10-09-2007 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Saleswman (Post 1422019)
I thought you were supposed to look at the feet first...to see if the coat is silky.....and the eye relection color.......?????

Mary, this is where you can jump in....LOL:):)
You are right..If the feet look somewhat like fuzzy bedroom slippers, most likely soft coated.......If the coat reflects light, good indication of silk.
As the reflection of eye color in photographs....I've been told that this is a myth.....although, I've found this to be a good indication, at least 99% of the time.....

Wylie's Mom 10-09-2007 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1421599)
As a groomer and yorkie breeder/exhibitor....never brush a dry coat and never comb a wet coat...Never brush a dirty coat. Bathe, condition and let conditioner remain in coat for a minimum of 10 minutes....rinse and brush as you dry....long strokes, short jerky strokes break coat. Dry from underneath, belly and legs first...then layer by layer.......section by section.

If you have a mat....use the side of a small slicker brush to work it out....slowly, do not force it...just gently work.
What do you do for daily maintenance then if you can't brush a dry coat? Are you saying to comb a dry coat or ? Plus, I always brush a dirty coat before I bathe bc otherwise I feel they'll tangle up worse during the bath.

Confused. Mardelin, please come live with me so I can absorb all your nuggets of expertise. :D :D :D

Mardelin 10-09-2007 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 1422618)
What do you do for daily maintenance then if you can't brush a dry coat? Are you saying to comb a dry coat or ? Plus, I always brush a dirty coat before I bathe bc otherwise I feel they'll tangle up worse during the bath.

Confused. Mardelin, please come live with me so I can absorb all your nuggets of expertise. :D :D :D
I don't do daily maintenance....over brushing is just as harmful as not keeping a coat clean. The heavy moisturizing conditionor should assist in removing any tangles.....If there is huge mat.....I use Chris Christensen Ice On Ice...spray on the mat and work out with the side of a slicker brush.

Brushing a dirty coat only breaks it.

Brooklynn 10-09-2007 09:39 AM
I agree never brush a dirty coat but of course if you keep the coat very short it wouldn't matter. Show dogs are definetley groomed different. Funny thing is I do use a comb on wet hair with wide teeth. Just like my hair I don't use a brush on wet hair I use a wide toothed comb. Whatever works for one doesn't always work for the other. I've never had a problem using a comb on wet hair as long as I take it small sections at a time. I work through a matt with ice on ice and with my fingers. I never use a slicker brush. This is just how I do things....I always have my dogs in oil and wrappers.
Donna

BabyFidgette 10-09-2007 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1422641)
I don't do daily maintenance....over brushing is just as harmful as not keeping a coat clean. The heavy moisturizing conditionor should assist in removing any tangles.....If there is huge mat.....I use Chris Christensen Ice On Ice...spray on the mat and work out with the side of a slicker brush.

Brushing a dirty coat only breaks it.
I don't do daily maintenance either. Actually, if I didn't want to, I don't really need to brush her, but I do sometimes. Baby has a beautiful coat. Lucky me! An 11lber with a great coat. :D

Mardelin 10-09-2007 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1422785)
I agree never brush a dirty coat but of course if you keep the coat very short it wouldn't matter. Show dogs are definetley groomed different. Funny thing is I do use a comb on wet hair with wide teeth. Just like my hair I don't use a brush on wet hair I use a wide toothed comb. Whatever works for one doesn't always work for the other. I've never had a problem using a comb on wet hair as long as I take it small sections at a time. I work through a matt with ice on ice and with my fingers. I never use a slicker brush. This is just how I do things....I always have my dogs in oil and wrappers.
Donna
Donna, I guess I wide tooth comb wouldn't be bad but, combs do stretch the hair strands....learned that from a hair dresser (my daughter). If you use the side of the slicker brush it works great.....

I have some that won't stay in wrappers....do more damage the help.....so, I keep those in Almond Oil. Boys are kept in plastic wrappers so I don't oil.....worry about mildew (just me)....girls I keep in paper/silk wraps.

But, then as you said show dogs are different then pets...and diligent care is necessary... Unless, campaigning a dog....they are cut down after Championing....much less worry and so the dogs and I are much happier.

Brooklynn 10-09-2007 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1422828)
Donna, I guess I wide tooth comb wouldn't be bad but, combs do stretch the hair strands....learned that from a hair dresser (my daughter). If you use the side of the slicker brush it works great.....

I have some that won't stay in wrappers....do more damage the help.....so, I keep those in Almond Oil. Boys are kept in plastic wrappers so I don't oil.....worry about mildew (just me)....girls I keep in paper/silk wraps.

But, then as you said show dogs are different then pets...and diligent care is necessary... Unless, campaigning a dog....they are cut down after Championing....much less worry and so the dogs and I are much happier.
Funny, my hairdresser of 20 years and my aunt who's a hairdresser have always told me to use a comb on my hair when wet but again it's a "wide" toothed comb. Like hairdressers, groomers are different as well. I prefer my comb to a slicker brush because the way I've done it, Radar's coat has grown so much so better not fix what's not broken LOL
If I didn't keep Radar in oil with his wrappers I'd have more matts than I could shake a finger at and I've never had mildew so again if it's not broken no need to fix :) LOL

Wylie's Mom 10-09-2007 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 1422853)
If I didn't keep Radar in oil with his wrappers I'd have more matts than I could shake a finger at and I've never had mildew so again if it's not broken no need to fix :) LOL
What does a dog look like if they're in "oil and wraps", I've no idea! Is there a pic?


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