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Verbena 08-24-2013 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sandy simpson (Post 4302445)
Galen is beautiful but I would not hurt him by trying to pull out those mats. When they are too bad I cut them out. His fur will grow back and he will be fine. I trim my boys back when it is hot anyway. Those mats hurt bad when one pulls on them or trys to release the tangle. If there is a conditioner that would get them out I would try that but if all else fails and it hurts him, cut them. Remember how we used to tease our hair up by ratting it? It would hurt like the dickens to get those rats out. Poor Galen, same pain. I hope you get this problem solved soon. He is such a neat dog!
Oh the big hair time. lol my hair was too thin and straight to do that. But I know getting knots in it killed.

lisaly 08-24-2013 03:10 AM
I feel so bad, Teri. I how heartbreaking this must be. You have worked so hard to keep Galen's coat beautiful. I have a couple of conditioners that are really good with matts. They would most likely get to you by Monday. Galen has such a gorgeous face, and he will look beautiful if you have to cut him down.

Lil Sis 08-24-2013 03:34 AM
One of my flaws as a doggie mommy is brushing my dogs as much as they need. I let my big shih tuz hair grow out one time... it was beautiful !! BUT it would get matts if I did not brush correctly--I did find a de tangling spray worked really well. The other thing is to be sure you have a comb or brush that is getting all the hair, sometime I was brushing but a matt was forming near the skin.

I too have left my dogs with friends and just cried when I came home. I just kept telling myself that they were happy and safe, I could deal with the hair and it would grow back.

Good luck

Verbena 08-24-2013 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by lisaly (Post 4302607)
I feel so bad, Teri. I how heartbreaking this must be. You have worked so hard to keep Galen's coat beautiful. I have a couple of conditioners that are really good with matts. They would most likely get to you by Monday. Galen has such a gorgeous face, and he will look beautiful if you have to cut him down.
It is especially hard when we finally go into a rhythm where it did not take too much to do and he did not have a mat ! Oh and two special brushing only toys and half Cheerios lol. I am going to try. But just looking at him breaks my heart. His hair sticks out so much he looks like a porkie Biewer.

jeane 08-24-2013 04:51 AM
he is beautiful// good luck// I don't have any advice since I keep Morgan in a puppy cut

lisaly 08-24-2013 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Verbena (Post 4302653)
It is especially hard when we finally go into a rhythm where it did not take too much to do and he did not have a mat ! Oh and two special brushing only toys and half Cheerios lol. I am going to try. But just looking at him breaks my heart. His hair sticks out so much he looks like a porkie Biewer.
It would have upset me greatly if I had been forced to cut Katie's hair. I love seeing them run free like babies when their hair is short, but it was so difficult for me to cut her hair. Ultimately, I did it because it was better for her after such crazy weather this past year and all of the stickies being in her hair when we played outdoors. It took a lot to mentally prepare myself to cut her hair, so my heart hurts for you. I know it's not about what they look like because we love them so much, but still I know how hard you've worked to get his coat where it is. If you need tips getting knots out, let me know.

I'd be happy to run out to the post office this morning to send anything out to you you think might help. I bought the first product just in case I needed it for a bad matt


IV SAN BERNARD K101 DISENTANGLING CONDITIONER

IV SAN BERNARD PEK CONDITIONER

Iv San Bernard Black Passion Mask Aragan Oil

Isle of Dogs - No. 51 Heavy Management Conditioner

Isle of Dogs - No. 63 Detangle Conditioning Mist

Juliealfies mum 08-24-2013 05:25 AM
Try a tangle teazer brush , I think they work wonders on matts , at first you don't think it doing anything and then it seems to work it's way through the matt.

Verbena 08-24-2013 08:43 AM
Update . . . .Well I tried very hard to get one of the mats out. I worked on it last night. i got up this morning and worked on it. He cried. I could not not put him through it. I can not hear him cry. It broke my heart. I talked to the near by groomer that was very good with him. She told me to come in at 12 to take a look to see what she can do. Se just kept shaking her head. She was like I am so sorry. He has to get shaved. She is going to leave his face with top knot( I was able to at least get that mat out. Under his chin and side of cheek has a big mat. She is going to do her best and make him look good. She is also going to leave his plume. That was the only area he did not have a mat. I got back into the car and cried. Silly.

Verbena 08-24-2013 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by lisaly (Post 4302685)
It would have upset me greatly if I had been forced to cut Katie's hair. I love seeing them run free like babies when their hair is short, but it was so difficult for me to cut her hair. Ultimately, I did it because it was better for her after such crazy weather this past year and all of the stickies being in her hair when we played outdoors. It took a lot to mentally prepare myself to cut her hair, so my heart hurts for you. I know it's not about what they look like because we love them so much, but still I know how hard you've worked to get his coat where it is. If you need tips getting knots out, let me know.

I'd be happy to run out to the post office this morning to send anything out to you you think might help. I bought the first product just in case I needed it for a bad matt


IV SAN BERNARD K101 DISENTANGLING CONDITIONER

IV SAN BERNARD PEK CONDITIONER

Iv San Bernard Black Passion Mask Aragan Oil

Isle of Dogs - No. 51 Heavy Management Conditioner

Isle of Dogs - No. 63 Detangle Conditioning Mist
Thank you so much you are too sweet. As you see from above he is going to get shaved. I am still interested in the products you listed just in case I have a mat that in my future needs to come out.

jeane 08-24-2013 08:52 AM
I don't think that you are being silly// you have worked hard to keep his coat looking so beautiful

lisaly 08-24-2013 09:38 AM
I'm really sorry, Teri. You made the right choice for Galen, though. You don't want him to fear being groomed, and I couldn't stand it either if I was hurting my little girl.

PM me your address and which ones you'd like to try, and I would be very happy to send you some. I can't wait to see Galen. He's going to look gorgeous this way, too, Galen is going to look so tiny.

Maximo 08-24-2013 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Verbena (Post 4302788)
Update . . . .Well I tried very hard to get one of the mats out. I worked on it last night. i got up this morning and worked on it. He cried. I could not not put him through it. I can not hear him cry. It broke my heart. I talked to the near by groomer that was very good with him. She told me to come in at 12 to take a look to see what she can do. Se just kept shaking her head. She was like I am so sorry. He has to get shaved. She is going to leave his face with top knot( I was able to at least get that mat out. Under his chin and side of cheek has a big mat. She is going to do her best and make him look good. She is also going to leave his plume. That was the only area he did not have a mat. I got back into the car and cried. Silly.
I am glad you have a groomer that you could take him to. Don't worry, it will grow back. I understand crying though. As Lisa wrote, I would be upset if circumstances beyond my control forced me to cut my boys' hair.

Looking forward to seeing Galen after his haircut.

dawn27 08-24-2013 10:12 AM
Oh poor baby Galen, poor Teri. He always looked so beautiful and he still will. No need for tears it grows back. I don't know what your dog sitter did or didn't do but Yikes !! He will look darling with or without his long hair. You may even find that you prefer him in a shorter cut. Maybe a Joey cut. Cant wait to see a pic. of the new Galen.

joyce evans 08-24-2013 10:32 AM
Ohh...Teri he will be ok and his hair will grow back. I'll just bet he's as beautiful with short hair as he is with long. Post pictures when you can.

joyce evans 08-24-2013 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by lisaly (Post 4302806)
I'm really sorry, Teri. You made the right choice for Galen, though. You don't want him to fear being groomed, and I couldn't stand it either if I was hurting my little girl.

PM me your address and which ones you'd like to try, and I would be very happy to send you some. I can't wait to see Galen. He's going to look gorgeous this way, too, Galen is going to look so tiny.
Just want to say that your baby is absolutely beautiful!!


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