Conditioner For 'Cotton' Coats - Thanks JEN (jencar98) !

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by TexasKat08

What's the difference between PEK Conditioner and PEK Maracuja?

They are different formulas with the Maracuja designed for long coated breeds like yorkies. I've tried both formulas the original PEK and the maracuja. I like them both, but prefer the scent of the original over the maracuja. And, actually may have got better results with the original formula.

[TexasKat08]

Originally Posted by jencar98

They are different formulas with the Maracuja designed for long coated breeds like yorkies. I've tried both formulas the original PEK and the maracuja. I like them both, but prefer the scent of the original over the maracuja. And, actually may have got better results with the original formula.

Thanks! So now I am just not-so-patiently waiting for my account to be validated so I can shop! I'm excited to try the PEK because my little guy is cottony and we have never been able to grow his hair to any length. But I want to try and it sounds like this product will help!

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by TexasKat08

Thanks! So now I am just not-so-patiently waiting for my account to be validated so I can shop! I'm excited to try the PEK because my little guy is cottony and we have never been able to grow his hair to any length. But I want to try and it sounds like this product will help!

Does his coat break, just slow to grow or do you keep him cut down?? I ask bc typically a cotton coat will grow faster than silk. The PEK won't grow coat but will make a difficult coat easier to groom. If his coat is very short you may not notice a huge difference until the coat grows out some. But once he has hair more than an inch or so long, you'll notice how much easier it is to get out tangles, also his hair will feel like silk.

Be certain to leave the PEK on his coat for a few minutes. I comb it through my kids coats and it takes about 5 minutes with the shorter coats and 10 min. or so with Reno in full coat.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by jencar98

They are different formulas with the Maracuja designed for long coated breeds like yorkies. I've tried both formulas the original PEK and the maracuja. I like them both, but prefer the scent of the original over the maracuja. And, actually may have got better results with the original formula.

I love the scent of the original. I have not tried any other scent, but that one is wonderful.

[TexasKat08]

Originally Posted by jencar98

Does his coat break, just slow to grow or do you keep him cut down?? I ask bc typically a cotton coat will grow faster than silk. The PEK won't grow coat but will make a difficult coat easier to groom. If his coat is very short you may not notice a huge difference until the coat grows out some. But once he has hair more than an inch or so long, you'll notice how much easier it is to get out tangles, also his hair will feel like silk.

Be certain to leave the PEK on his coat for a few minutes. I comb it through my kids coats and it takes about 5 minutes with the shorter coats and 10 min. or so with Reno in full coat.

No, it grows fast. We just keep him cut short so that he doesn't mat and tangle. He isn't fond of grooming either so it seems more fair to him to keep it short than to struggle with the brushing. His hair (my lovely DH is measuring it as we speak) is about 3 inches long right now. I am also going to invest in a better brush and comb. We use a pin brush and pin comb, but I noticed the pins on the brush are starting to push in. Any ideas on brushes? Thanks for the tip on how long to leave the conditioner in. I am also going to get a new spray bottle to dilute for daily brushing.

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by TexasKat08

No, it grows fast. We just keep him cut short so that he doesn't mat and tangle. He isn't fond of grooming either so it seems more fair to him to keep it short than to struggle with the brushing. His hair (my lovely DH is measuring it as we speak) is about 3 inches long right now. I am also going to invest in a better brush and comb. We use a pin brush and pin comb, but I noticed the pins on the brush are starting to push in. Any ideas on brushes? Thanks for the tip on how long to leave the conditioner in. I am also going to get a new spray bottle to dilute for daily brushing.

Aha...I understand now. Reno has a silk coat now, but his puppy coat could be a nightmare to deal with as it was typical cottony puppy hair. The PEK saved us both! I was determined to grow out his coat, with the puppy mats and adult long coat coming in, I would spend hours combing out little mats. You'll see a big difference in the ease of combing out tangles, and his coat will feel so silky soft.

I've got several brushes and prefer the Chris Christensen pin brushes. I use their smallest metal pin brush and also love the wood pin brush. I know many yt members love the Madan brushes from Mimimomo (Jenny, topline pet, I think) and they are more reasonably priced than the CC ones.

[TexasKat08]

Originally Posted by jencar98

I've got several brushes and prefer the Chris Christensen pin brushes. I use their smallest metal pin brush and also love the wood pin brush. I know many yt members love the Madan brushes from Mimimomo (Jenny, topline pet, I think) and they are more reasonably priced than the CC ones.

I have seen some recommendations for Madan as well and found them on toplinepet. I've also seen Chris Christensen recommended for all types of products. Is that line sold retail in a store or just online? I need to google, I guess, and do some research.

[Meggy]

I'm new in this site and I found it very beautiful, I'm italian ( sorry my american is so poor and bad! ). I'm the mom of three girls with very long hair and different ( one is fine, silk and perfectly straight; the other two are cottony one is very fine the other less fine )
I read in this forum that many people love Plush Puppy Blow Dry Cream and Seabreeze oil please I would know how to use them ( when, diluition and so on )

I would try also Pet Silk Top Knot Gel, how to use it?

Many thanks

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by Meggy

I'm new in this site and I found it very beautiful, I'm italian ( sorry my american is so poor and bad! ). I'm the mom of three girls with very long hair and different ( one is fine, silk and perfectly straight; the other two are cottony one is very fine the other less fine )
I read in this forum that many people love Plush Puppy Blow Dry Cream and Seabreeze oil please I would know how to use them ( when, diluition and so on )

I would try also Pet Silk Top Knot Gel, how to use it?

Many thanks

Hi and welcome to YT! I've used a few of the Plush Puppy products but not since finding Iv San Bernard. Without definite instructions on how to use, I would probably use about a tsp of the blow dry cream, rub between your palms and then over the coat of your dog. I would work the cream into a damp coat, then blow dry. The Seabreeze oil is typically used when you are wrapping a dog, it's to protect , moisturize and condition the coat. Show dogs are kept in oil with wraps in between shows. If you're not wanting to wrap your dog's coat, I would just very lightly spray the coat and brush the oil through.

I don't know about the dilution rates. You may just have to play around with the ratios to get the mix right. As like the ISB products, there probably is no "set" amount, I would use whatever works for your dogs.

[TexasKat08]

Ordered apple shampoo & conditioner, clarifying shampoo and PEK conditioner from ISB. Can't wait to try it all out!!

[PrinceHenry]

Originally Posted by jencar98

LOLOL...no, you're not alone! My grooming cabinet looks like I've opened shop for hair products. I'm always searching for the "ultimate product" and honestly feel like the Iv San Bernard is it. I've been using it now for over a year and that is by far the longest any product has lasted here....and I've actually re-ordered - which, I almost never do.

Here ya go:

PEK Conditionner : Iv San Bernard (USA & Canada), Fine Italian Pet Grooming Products and Equipment

They do set up at some dog shows. Also, I talked to their rep about the possibility of them offering sample sizes here on YT. She told me they would when they got back in the States - they were in Canada right then.

The one thing I've heard from some show people is, the conditioner will make hair so silky, they have to use extra top knot gel/spray or stick-em up.....but that's not a problem, given the great results for the rest of the coat. I suggested watering it down for the topknot hair.

Looks like there are different kinds on that site. Orange n mint. Which one do you all use?

[TexasKat08]

Shoot! The ISB guy (with a super heavy accent) called me today (awesome customer service) to tell me they were out of the medium size bottle of PEK and my items wouldn't ship until Monday. I am disappointed, but I think he said they would ship them overnight.

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by PrinceHenry

Looks like there are different kinds on that site. Orange n mint. Which one do you all use?

I would order the original PEK, the container on their site looks orange, but the product itself is green in color.

Originally Posted by TexasKat08

Shoot! The ISB guy (with a super heavy accent) called me today (awesome customer service) to tell me they were out of the medium size bottle of PEK and my items wouldn't ship until Monday. I am disappointed, but I think he said they would ship them overnight.

Sorry about the delay, I know it's hard to wait.

That would be Baxter, I believe he is French/Canadian and he is super nice. I've always received excellent customer service from anyone with ISB.

[Suze225]

I am totally in love with PEK conditioner and mink oil from IV San Bernard. This is our second bath using these products and the second time is even better than the first. I am amazed, Bella's coat normally has very little shine, after her bath today she is almost glowing and soooooooo soft and silky! I will never use anything else again!!!!!

[kpstoybox]

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

For my yorkies, I have found that the best way to use PEK, is to make a spritz/spray out of it. I don't use it as a creme rinse anymore because it just gets rinsed out. I shampoo my dogs then towel dry them and spritz it on, the brush or comb just slides right thru. Amazing. Using it as a spritz, it will last a long long time. Don't use too much either. A little dab will do ya. I put about a half to 3/4 teaspoon to a pint of water. Use hot water to dissolve it faster when you make it.
Has anyone else tried it this way?

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU DEB!!!

I finally made my PEK spritz and am just AMAZED at how much easier Cabo's grooming was today. The comb went through his coat with hardly a snag. The ball of hair left in the comb after his comb out was just about nil proving it goes through the snarls and mats with ease and does not rip them out. And it doesn't leave a heavy or greasy feel when dry.
It is truly a miracle product for the heavier coats!! I will post some pics tonight for you to see. Thanks again!!