[QUOTE=Yorkieluv;1146405]Thanks for caring about Winston...and yes I'm going to get the bile acid test that you suggested in the past, along with other test. But how old was Miko and how much did he weigh when he was diagnosed? Did he have symptoms as a puppy? Winston did not, this came on as an adult, 2 years old and at that time 7 pounds. He never had even a single episode of hypoglycemia as a puppy, I had never even heard of Nutri-Cal until he had his 2nd seizure at the vets office, his blood sugar at the time was in the 30's, the vet thought it was from eating a "toadstool/mushroom" out in the yard, which can cause hypoglycemia. I took him back weekly for what she called liver test...they all came back within normal limits. This was before I knew of YT and really didn't know to ask if it was a "bile acid test" or any numbers. So now I know, and I will ask the right questions. He hasn't had a seizure since March 8th...and I know he hasn't eaten anything wrong. I'll keep you updated as soon as I know anything...Thank you again, you have a ton of experience and I appreciate your sound advise..

Hi Kathy!

I know of yorkies who were 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, and even 10 before they were diagnosed.

Miko was around 9-10 months and around 7-8 lbs when he was diagnosed.

Anyway, I'm sure Winston will be okay :) You're a good mommy to him, and I pray that whatever happened to him is no big deal at all :) No more episodes!

How is Winston today?

My parents have a lab that has seizures. At his worst he had them a couple times per week. They kept a seizure log and figured out the seizures generally happened when he got too excited or startled. The vet put him on phenobarbitol and the seizures are controlled now. He has them maybe once a month at most. I know labs are nothing like yorkies, but just thought I would share.

I hope you're able to find a cause and effective treatment for Winston. Poor little guy. :(

Hi everybody!!! Winston is just fine right now...he acts totally normal between episodes, before and after...it's just DURING that scares the daylights out of me. That's probably why I have put off getting him thoroughly examined...when he's fine, he's fine...and I don't want to run a lot of tests if they're not necessary...I really thought I had it figured out...just simply feed him more frequently...and it seemed to be working, until yesterday. So now I'm back at square one, I really do not think it's low blood sugar alone. I have the day off for Memorial Day, so I think I'll do a little research, to find out exactly what to ask the vet...Thanks for your concern, and please keep saying a little prayer for Winston...

How did he do over the weekend??

Hi...Winston my boy has been totally fine since he had that episode on Sunday, he puzzles me. Going to take him to the vet next week, have to figure out what I want them to do, what test does he need...I don't want to go in there and not know what I'm asking for...We'll just have to wait and see...Thanks a ton for your caring concern, so nice of you!!!

When you take Winston to see the vet next week, ask if you can bring him in immediately when he's having a seizure. Our Bo has seizures from time to time but his is a result of severe head trauma when he was only two weeks old. Long story short, accident, no exactly sure what happened but believe he was attached to mom when she jumped out of the cage to greet my grandkids before school, room was dark and believe a book back wacked him in the head. Bo shouldn't even be here. I hand fed him. He is going to be 4 this coming October. Because he was so young the vet was very hesitant to put him on medication. When the seizures became more frequent and worse, I rushed him in to the vet. That's really the best time for them to see the dog. Needless to say, Bo is mentally challenged but learns more and more with each litter we have. I wish you much luck in finding out the source of the seizures. I know first hand how terrifying they can be. March 2nd Bo had a severe seizure and a stroke. I was fully prepared to have him put to sleep but he showed signs of improvement the following day when I took him to the vet. Most of his seizures don't last too long and I'm usually able to bring him back by holding him tightly and rubbing under his chin and neck with soft talking. Some have been much worse than others to the point I think he quits breathing and his body is as hard as a rock. I thank the good Lord for giving me strength during those times but I know in my heart that with each seizure it could be the last. Hopefully you can find the cause and medication will cure Winston. I'll be praying for him.........and you.

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Oh my gosh, your story of Bo is heartbreaking, and I sure do wish you and he well, take care of that little guy...
There were 2 different occasions, that I was lucky enough to get Winston to the vet during seizures, that's when they found his glucose to be so low. Both times they gave IV/glucose and he came back just fine...my main concern is he's having the seizure first, and this brings his sugar down. I do always treat with Nutri-Cal now...but in my heart I feel like I'm missing something...something that maybe I can control, that will prevent this from ever happening again. He was 2 years old when this first occurred, and he's never had a head injury that I'm aware of...he eats good, runs and plays like normal...hmmmm...Do you or anyone else out there think a thunderstorm, could trigger something in his brain that makes him seize? He is terrified of storms, and does a whole lot of pacing, before-during-and after...That's the only thing I can think of that he does differently now then he did as a pup...anyway, we'll see what happens at the vets office...I thank you and everyone else for the ideas...suggestions...and of course your caring concern for my boy Winston.

Kathy, I just came across this thread today. I am so sorry that Winston had a seizure. I can't imagine how scarey that must be both for you and for him. I have no advice since I am a real dummy on health issues but I do have lots of prayers coming your way. I know how frustrating it is when you go to the dr. for help and they don't know the answers but hopefully this time he will.:) Patty

YoHoo Patty...Thanks for your support, prayers!!! I'm still praying for you too...How's it going, are you running laps yet? No, I doubt it...but I sure do wish you well, hoping that therapy is progressing as you'd hoped, and that the outcome will be marvelous...Let me know if I can help in any way, I've been so worried about you thru all this...Hugs and Prayers!!!

poor winston...

Kathy, I only just found this thread about your Winston tonight!!! What with Papi's YorkieTrain, I have read little else. I am so glad he is doing better. My senior girl Spanky had seizures when she was much younger; the reason was always undiagnosed. Each time she was treated with Phenobarb'. As she grew older, their frequency reduced A LOT and she has not had one in several years now. I hope and pray that the same happens with your precious Winston, that they just stop.
Hugs to you and Winston when you're both feeling bad.

Lauren:hug:

Lauren...Hi buddy!!! Thanks for your concern for Winston, I so appreciate it!!!
I feel kind of silly taking him to the vet tomorrow...When he's feeling good, he is totally fine. But I'm going to take him, asks for some test, I just hope I don't look and sound like an over concerned mom...I want to be prepared...with questions in hand. Sorry to hear your Spanky went thru this, but Oh so happy she's not experiencing them any more, could I be so lucky? I've heard scary things about Phenobarb...and I doubt that I'll give him anything like that unless it gets a whole lot worse. Mostly just want to know what it is, or more importantly what it's not...Anyway, thanks for your input...and well wishes. I'll let everybody know what, if anything I find out.

IMO never feel like your overly concerned...this is like a child and these drs/vets are there to help and answer ANYTHING you throw at them! If the visit is 30 minutes and you pay 40 for the office call....trust me they made thier money! Leave no stone unturned! My Diggy had seizures also and the breeder and her vet tried to convince me he was no seizing and simply trying not to vomit...RIDICULOUS The breeder refused to pay for any tests and wanted to give me my $$ back. NO WAY I spent hours on the phone with the breeder and hours of her trying to convince me I was PARANOID and over thinking this! Thank God for this site I started coming in here and getting advice comparing symptoms and narrowed it down to Hypoglycemia or Liver issue. Did the bile acid, his numbers were great, and his sugar was way down. It was simply Hypo and controlled with frequent feedings, and nutrical. Had I given up, I am sure he would have suffered many more seizures that were completely preventable with some persistance. PLease stay strong and don't feel like your paranoid and over thinking. You need peace of mind and to be able to enjoy your baby. I wish you luck and strength. Get a piece of paper write down your questions AND their answers. I know when I am nervous and upset I forget half the stuff being said. I pulled out my list and went right down it ? after? and the vet actually said, You are the most knowledgable yorkie mom she had ever came across and it helped her soooo much. She welcomes the noted and symptoms, his feeding schedule potty schedule and every little move he made! It probably was a smidge on the overboard side lol but none the less she loved it and applauded me on my efforts for this baby. So ask away and be persistant. This is your baby, and their job to help you!

diggy4...Thanks so much for the encouragement...I can be a little bit stubborn, persistant...and maybe slightly overprotective of him, but it really is for his own good...He can't talk, so I have to, for him.
Everybody concerned...He passed the physical part of his exam with flying colors, the vet didn't see, hear or feel anything out of the usual. She answered all my questions and added a few of her own...He had some blood work done yesterday, no results back yet, they drew blood for blood count, chemistry and thyroid panel. Goes back next Tuesday for pre and post meal bile acid test, then on Wednesday he'll have more blood drawn for insulin levels, sounds like a glucose challenge, to see how he responds to sugar. I talked this over with my hubby, and I think for our peace of mind, it'll be worth the time and money spent. She said he'll need to be treated for the seizures if we don't find a cause, as he's had more then 6 in a years time, a lot more and they do seem to be somewhat violent and last longer then most seizures. So, I'm going to just take a deep breath and hope everything turns out okay, for Winston's sake!!! The one thing that concerns me is she prefers Phenobarb...if his liver is functioning properly, with frequent test for levels, she thinks it's the safest, we'll have to wait and see.
I do want to thank everybody for their suggestions, advise and most of all their caring concern for my little boy, Winston thanks you from the bottom of his little heart!!!

Hey, thats what we are here for! There is not a test for epilepsy right?? I think my vet said that. My girl friends beagle has a seizure every other month so about 6 a year. She does not treat her. Not out of disconcern but the seizures are painless (says the vet) and the side effects of the meds for seizures can be more detrimental than the seizure itself.....How long do his seizures last?? Youve probably said but i missed it. Mollys are 2-5 minutes. Vet thinks epilepsy.

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Kathy,

I am so sorry I just saw this thread. With the PattiCake train that was basically all I was reading when I was signing on as there were so many posts as you know. You were right there with us posting and giving encouragement and you never said a word about Winston. I feel so bad that I missed the thread about your little one. I am so glad he is feeling better and I am sending my prayers that he will continue to be healthy. Again I apologize for missing your thread.

Jay

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Kathy, just checking in Hon' to see how Winston is doing; I saw what you wrote about the test results. This must be just so scary for you.... I can only imagine what you are feeling.... how difficult it must be for you to swallow past that "rock" you have sitting in your chest (that's the awful feeling we get when we are so scared for our babies wellbeing.)
Hugs to you and your precious baby. Please know that I am thinking of you, and holding only the very BEST thought for Winston.
Lauren:ghug:
and some flowers for Winston;s Mommy....:rose40::rose40::rose40::rose40::rose40:

AAAAHHHH...Thanks, now I have tears in my eyes, you guys are the greatest...Really I can't thank you enough...It means a great deal to me to know there are people here that truly do care.

Aw, Kathy! I feel badly that I was so concerned about my own baby I didn't even post any encouragement for you and Winston.

I read the posts, but never said anything. Bad YT member!:(

But I am glad things are at least evening out for you information-wise. I hope you are able to discover Winston's problem and find a good treatment for him. Poor little fella. You're a good mommy to keep fighting for him since he can't say anything for himself (except, "Aren't I cute."):p

Tink and I will send up a prayer for Winston.:)

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Read the latest news on Winston, and you won't regret being very thorough in blood panels, etc. Charlie and I are sending our warmest thoughts to Winston. This must be a worrisome time for your family. Take care, Deborah and Charlie

All I can say is thank you all for your prayers and good thoughts for Winston. He is such a good boy and I really don't want to miss anything that maybe we can avoid...or control...that's why I decided to have all these test done...If all is good with them, we'll probably be starting him on an anti-convulsant, I did ask the vet if it would be okay not to medicate him...because he really does act totally normal when he's not seizing...She said that because of the frequency and the severity it would be best to try with medication to prevent...or at the very least slow down the number of seizures he's having, I guess long term...they can effect his overall well-being. So, now we test and wait, test and wait...test and wait some more. I don't know, if she doesn't find anything I'm considering a neurology consult...where, I don't know yet...Thanks a bunch everybody...and keep the good thoughts coming.

Just checking in to see how Winston is feeling today :) I hope your vets are able to find the cause of the seizures...

Hi Kathy,
I was just checking in to see how your little guy is doing. How was he over the weekend?? Do you have any new news on his test results?

Don't worry about him being shy. You'll see, the more you take him out and let him interact with other people and dogs, the more comfortable he will become in public.
Hope you had a great weekend; wish you could have been at our meetup. I would so have loved to meet you. I posted some pics; they are just so cute - take a look:
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...t=82671&page=2


Hugs,
Lauren:)

No news yet...But he goes for his bile acid test in the morning, I'll ask then how his chem panel, CBC and thyroid panel turned out. He's feeling good now...no seizures since May 27th!!! I wish, I hope...that'll be his last.
As I'm writing this, I noticed a Google ad right above this reply box..."Pet Seizures and Epilepsy...Prevent and Treat Acute Seizures and Epilepsy in Cats and Dogs".
I may just go check it out!!! Never know...maybe it's an "omen"!

I'm back...It's for a Herbal/Homeopathic liquid drop called PetAlive EaseSure Drops...I have no idea!!!
Lauren...I saw your pictures...Looks as though you all had a fantabulous time!!! It's amazing to me how well the dogs seem to get along, Winston is just not that friendly to others...I can see it now...him trying desparately to get away!!!

Good luck tomorrow with Winstons tests....waiting for results seems like years....Be strong and know you are doing everything you can and all will be okay! :D :) Please let us know as soon as you hear anything and give WInston a kiss from Bella and Diggy!

Will do...kisses from everyone!!! Will let you guys know, when I know. Thanks a bunch!!!

Reading your post and look forward to hearing about Winston's tests. Oh, how I hope you are able to find out what is wrong with your precious pup, and it is as simple as a dropper of medicine a day.

Take care, Deborah