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joy and bella · 09-30-2006, 06:03 PM

That is horrible how the vet treated the situation. i have an emergency vet near me that did a similar thing....and like you i waited it out. my emergency vet back home isnt like this....but occasionally you will run into ones that arent very considerate of our emotions. i am sorry you had to go through that ...and i am very happy everything worked out. you will be in my prayers....

louie's mom · 09-30-2006, 06:38 PM

i had a simalar experience at the emergancy vet hospital with my lasa. she had taken a fall and i rushed her in and they took x-rays and told me she needed hip replacement surgery. she was only maybe a year old. but she didn't break her hip but they wanted to replace it. of course i had been crying all the way there and while i was there. but my sweet madeline was acting like herself maybe a little sore and stressed from everything but she was okay . i told them that i could not afford the surgery. which i didn't feel that she needed since she was walking around and nothing was broken...they wanted me to get pet credit or take out a loan. i told them that it wasn't possible for me to make a decission like that without my husband.(but if i really thought she needed it i would have done it in a heartbeat) it is very sad that they try to take advantage of you while your in such grief. just to let you know madeline is seven years old and has never had a problem with her hip or anything else. i am glad to hear that you baby is better and you are also..

annette and louie

daisy mae06 · 09-30-2006, 07:20 PM

I am so glad Boo is better. I also want to welcome you to YT.

I hope Boo Is all better soon And keep us posted. Did you take him to you regular vet To have them look him over also?

peanut · 09-30-2006, 08:17 PM

When he was walking in circles was he close to the walls and like a dog on a mission...would he stop when you called him or just acted like you where not there???? The reason I ask this is you might want to get his bile acid tested....

Lacy's Mom · 09-30-2006, 09:37 PM

I've seen some similar posts about emergency room visits. The last one was the dog had pyometra (uterus infection) and was full of pus that was being discharged. The emergency vet advised immediate spay, hysterectomy at an outrageous price. The owner decided she didn't want to have it done because it was a valuable breeder. I, personally, would have, but the point I am getting at is that the emergency vet basically did nothing since she refused. They could have at least given her a shot of oxytocin since her cervix was still open (had recently given birth) to expel a good portion of the bacteria and given her an injection of antibiotics then she could have seen her regular vet in the morning for a spay at 1/4 of the cost, but they still gave her a bill for the visit and did nothing!!!??? The dog was okay, but it very well could have turned out differently.

I'm glad Boobear seems normal now. I would still have a blood work up done just to see if anything shows up though.

Saleswman · 10-01-2006, 03:45 AM

I am having a real problem with this thread about the Emergency Vets......all the posts are in agreement......it seems like these Vets are not eithical at all......what is the deal......don't they have the same code of eithics that a General Vet does? Don't they sign the same placque on the wall to take care of an animal with diligence and care?

This really makes me furious......to take advantage and refuse treatment, or play on someone's sympathy in order to get a bigger charge?????? Sounds like an attorney that runs after car wrecks.....(sorry attorneys out there).

What is the solution? Education....be very educated on the ails of your Yorkie, so that He/She doesnt try the above tactics.

What a shame......it really disgusts me.....

Bnot · 10-01-2006, 08:43 AM

Well, least I have one emergency trip I can now laugh at, but it was 20 years ago.

My young female cat, suddenly started walking really low to the ground, and crying. My older sister was over, she said "you need to take that cat to the vet, something is hurting her bad, she's in pain"! Well, TC continuted this even when company left, so I took her to the emergency clinic, with my Visa card that only had like 500 dollar limit at that time. I was just getting established in life back then, and was having a tough time making ends meet.

We'd had cats all our lives, but they were all male cats. Seems Mom would never let us keep a female.

I think this was 1986. Later it got, the more pain she looked like she was in, I looked up the one emergency vet, and off we went. They saw me and TC immediately. They checked her out good, and told me my cat was "In Heat", charged me $100 bucks and sent me home!!

My older sister and I still laugh about that one! I paid 100 bucks to find out my cat was in heat! My big sis got a cat last year, and it was female. When it came in heat, I told her "you need to take that cat to the vet, somethings wrong with it"! We both laughed.

When I had her spayed several weeks later, the total bill was like 65 bucks back then! Cost more to find out she was in heat, than to spay her! LOL

Emergency clinics can be good or bad, but glad to know I'm not the only one that feels they got ripped off. But 20 years later, I can now laugh at my trip, and call it "experience".

baileyBooBear · 10-01-2006, 09:33 AM

I meant to mention in my follow up post that I did take him to the vet the next day. They checked him out good, test, bloodwork, etc. Everything came back normal.
It has been 7 days since his episode and he is still normal showing no signs of any effects of last week.
I dont know if I will every know what was wrong with him. Im still thinking it could have been a nervous thing. I have 2 other dogs and a cat, a 15 yr old poodle (Sophie) who pretty much stays under the bed (they get along great) and my newest additions of an 10 mth old akita mix (bailey) and 9 mth old cat (Remy), these two try to get boobear to play and he just isnt interested. Bailey and Remy play great and kinda rough, and it makes him nervous. So maybe he just had enough, I dont know. I will continue as usual to watch him close and keep everyone updated.
Thanks again for showing support, it really helps and lets me know Im not alone.

JeanieK · 10-01-2006, 09:56 AM

It is sad, the way they take advantage of a peson in distress. It isn't only vets. I had a dentist do the same thing. I had lost the filling out of a tooth, and the tooth was bad anyway. I went to a dentist, that would get me in immediately. he charged me $90 to tell me that I would need to go to an oral surgeon. they sent me there. He charged me $209, just to pull a tooth that he said was loose anyway. No oral surgery no ansthetic except novocain, just pulled the tooth.

Years before that My son had a baby tooth that had not come out, and they said the permanent tooth was lying sideways in the gum. they wanted to put some sort of apparatus on it that would connect to the tooth that was lying down, blah blah blah. I told them I couldn't afford that and asked couldn't they just pull it and then see what happens. Oh no they couldn't do that blah blah blah. they had me in tears before I left. Made me feel like a bad mother because I couldn't afford to do that.

Within a year, the baby tooth fell out and the permanent tooth came in just fine.

In my opinion the medical profession can be just as unethical as car repairmen.

JeanieK · 10-01-2006, 09:57 AM

Sorry that last post was off track. It just make me furious how they can put a person in tears and not feel bad about it.

connie k · 10-01-2006, 10:39 AM

I once a had a puppy who did something similiar. Buster was a norfolk terrier. He had low blood sugar. If it happens again try some nutra-cal or sugar water. If it is low blood sugar and you don't do anything about it, it can cause blindness and even death. I sure hope your baby is okay. Our puppy who had low blood sugar and an intestinal problem died. He wasn't absorbing his food. It was a lot of heartache and a high vet bill to help him and he still didn't make it even after IV's and an over night stay. They said because he was so small he just couldn't fight it. Please watch your little guy closely.

PCMom · 10-01-2006, 11:36 AM

First let me say how happy I am that BooBear is back to normal. I don't want to scare you but I do want to make you aware. As many people here know my yorkie, Pepper, has a neurological illness called Cerebellar Abiotrophy. It affects his nervous system, meaning he can't walk, sit, stand, eat, drink, pee etc. without falling over.He also has seizures and vomits almost everyday. He is like this about 65% of the time now. It started out that these spells would last a few minutes and would only hit once or twice a week. Now its everyday and lasts for hours. One of the symptoms is that head movement you mentioned. My hubby and I discribe it as "doing a Katherine Hepburn" sounds terrible but does give you an idea what it looks like. The thing about CA is that ALL tests come back normal. The only way to know for absolute sure that a pup has it is by autopsy or brain biopsy. So the vets make an educated guess based on a process of elimination. Like I said, I don't want to scare you but I do want you to be aware! This illness is genetic...the females are the carriers, the males get the illness. When I got Pepper at 4 months of age the vets told me he wouldn't make it a year...he is now 2 1/2 years old. There is no cure for it and it is getting worse. When his life gets to be more of a burden to him then a joy I will have to let him go...but for now he is a very happy, very spoiled yorkie! It took me a year and a half to find a vet who would treat him for normal stuff...the rest just acted like it was a waste of their precious time or they wanted to re-run very expensive tests that they knew had already been done at least twice. I guess there are people like that in every profession and I am so sorry that you had to deal with one while you were scared for your poor baby! As I said, I am so glad booBear is feeling better!

ChestersMom · 10-01-2006, 12:14 PM

Guess this sort of stuff happens everywhere. I rescued a 15-year-old Yorkie a few years ago who had been dumped at the animal shelter. Supposedly, the owner had called and said she had been spayed. Well, three weeks later we had an emergency hysterectomy at a cost of $365.00. I decided to call the same vet later (not giving my name) to find out how much it was to spay they quoted me less than $100.00. When I confronted the vet when I took her back for a check-up she cited risk as the reason it was so much more. I made it very clear to her that "risk" costs absolutely nothing and that it was the dog taking the risk, not her. I never went back to that clinic. Guess I'm in the wrong profession. But then, I'm the kind that would take chicken and vegetables as payment. SOOOO GLAD Boo is better. Keep an eye on him and we'll all pray it's not going to happen again.

09-30-2006, 06:03 PM	#16
joy and bella Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: florida Posts: 1,232	That is horrible how the vet treated the situation. i have an emergency vet near me that did a similar thing....and like you i waited it out. my emergency vet back home isnt like this....but occasionally you will run into ones that arent very considerate of our emotions. i am sorry you had to go through that ...and i am very happy everything worked out. you will be in my prayers.... __________________ I LOVE my baby girl Bella!!!! She is my world!!

09-30-2006, 07:20 PM	#18
daisy mae06 Kodi & Pixie 2 Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: NEBRASKA Posts: 14,766	So glad boo is better I am so glad Boo is better. I also want to welcome you to YT. I hope Boo Is all better soon And keep us posted. Did you take him to you regular vet To have them look him over also? __________________ OK Yorkie Rescue - http://okyorkierescue.org LorisCritterSitter.com

09-30-2006, 08:17 PM	#19
peanut Dogs Rule Cats Drool! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 7,895	When he was walking in circles was he close to the walls and like a dog on a mission...would he stop when you called him or just acted like you where not there???? The reason I ask this is you might want to get his bile acid tested.... __________________ KIM

10-01-2006, 03:45 AM	#21
Saleswman Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,643	You know what.... I am having a real problem with this thread about the Emergency Vets......all the posts are in agreement......it seems like these Vets are not eithical at all......what is the deal......don't they have the same code of eithics that a General Vet does? Don't they sign the same placque on the wall to take care of an animal with diligence and care? This really makes me furious......to take advantage and refuse treatment, or play on someone's sympathy in order to get a bigger charge?????? Sounds like an attorney that runs after car wrecks.....(sorry attorneys out there). What is the solution? Education....be very educated on the ails of your Yorkie, so that He/She doesnt try the above tactics. What a shame......it really disgusts me.....

10-01-2006, 09:33 AM	#23
baileyBooBear YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 3	BooBear I meant to mention in my follow up post that I did take him to the vet the next day. They checked him out good, test, bloodwork, etc. Everything came back normal. It has been 7 days since his episode and he is still normal showing no signs of any effects of last week. I dont know if I will every know what was wrong with him. Im still thinking it could have been a nervous thing. I have 2 other dogs and a cat, a 15 yr old poodle (Sophie) who pretty much stays under the bed (they get along great) and my newest additions of an 10 mth old akita mix (bailey) and 9 mth old cat (Remy), these two try to get boobear to play and he just isnt interested. Bailey and Remy play great and kinda rough, and it makes him nervous. So maybe he just had enough, I dont know. I will continue as usual to watch him close and keep everyone updated. Thanks again for showing support, it really helps and lets me know Im not alone.

09-30-2006, 06:38 PM	#17
louie's mom Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: charlotte Posts: 99	i had a simalar experience at the emergancy vet hospital with my lasa. she had taken a fall and i rushed her in and they took x-rays and told me she needed hip replacement surgery. she was only maybe a year old. but she didn't break her hip but they wanted to replace it. of course i had been crying all the way there and while i was there. but my sweet madeline was acting like herself maybe a little sore and stressed from everything but she was okay . i told them that i could not afford the surgery. which i didn't feel that she needed since she was walking around and nothing was broken...they wanted me to get pet credit or take out a loan. i told them that it wasn't possible for me to make a decission like that without my husband.(but if i really thought she needed it i would have done it in a heartbeat) it is very sad that they try to take advantage of you while your in such grief. just to let you know madeline is seven years old and has never had a problem with her hip or anything else. i am glad to hear that you baby is better and you are also.. annette and louie

09-30-2006, 09:37 PM	#20
Lacy's Mom YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 3,065	I've seen some similar posts about emergency room visits. The last one was the dog had pyometra (uterus infection) and was full of pus that was being discharged. The emergency vet advised immediate spay, hysterectomy at an outrageous price. The owner decided she didn't want to have it done because it was a valuable breeder. I, personally, would have, but the point I am getting at is that the emergency vet basically did nothing since she refused. They could have at least given her a shot of oxytocin since her cervix was still open (had recently given birth) to expel a good portion of the bacteria and given her an injection of antibiotics then she could have seen her regular vet in the morning for a spay at 1/4 of the cost, but they still gave her a bill for the visit and did nothing!!!??? The dog was okay, but it very well could have turned out differently. I'm glad Boobear seems normal now. I would still have a blood work up done just to see if anything shows up though.

10-01-2006, 08:43 AM	#22
Bnot YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mobile AL Posts: 1,399	Well, least I have one emergency trip I can now laugh at, but it was 20 years ago. My young female cat, suddenly started walking really low to the ground, and crying. My older sister was over, she said "you need to take that cat to the vet, something is hurting her bad, she's in pain"! Well, TC continuted this even when company left, so I took her to the emergency clinic, with my Visa card that only had like 500 dollar limit at that time. I was just getting established in life back then, and was having a tough time making ends meet. We'd had cats all our lives, but they were all male cats. Seems Mom would never let us keep a female. I think this was 1986. Later it got, the more pain she looked like she was in, I looked up the one emergency vet, and off we went. They saw me and TC immediately. They checked her out good, and told me my cat was "In Heat", charged me $100 bucks and sent me home!! My older sister and I still laugh about that one! I paid 100 bucks to find out my cat was in heat! My big sis got a cat last year, and it was female. When it came in heat, I told her "you need to take that cat to the vet, somethings wrong with it"! We both laughed. When I had her spayed several weeks later, the total bill was like 65 bucks back then! Cost more to find out she was in heat, than to spay her! LOL Emergency clinics can be good or bad, but glad to know I'm not the only one that feels they got ripped off. But 20 years later, I can now laugh at my trip, and call it "experience".

10-01-2006, 09:56 AM	#24
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	It is sad, the way they take advantage of a peson in distress. It isn't only vets. I had a dentist do the same thing. I had lost the filling out of a tooth, and the tooth was bad anyway. I went to a dentist, that would get me in immediately. he charged me $90 to tell me that I would need to go to an oral surgeon. they sent me there. He charged me $209, just to pull a tooth that he said was loose anyway. No oral surgery no ansthetic except novocain, just pulled the tooth. Years before that My son had a baby tooth that had not come out, and they said the permanent tooth was lying sideways in the gum. they wanted to put some sort of apparatus on it that would connect to the tooth that was lying down, blah blah blah. I told them I couldn't afford that and asked couldn't they just pull it and then see what happens. Oh no they couldn't do that blah blah blah. they had me in tears before I left. Made me feel like a bad mother because I couldn't afford to do that. Within a year, the baby tooth fell out and the permanent tooth came in just fine. In my opinion the medical profession can be just as unethical as car repairmen.

10-01-2006, 09:57 AM	#25
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	Sorry that last post was off track. It just make me furious how they can put a person in tears and not feel bad about it.

10-01-2006, 10:39 AM	#26
connie k Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: georgia Posts: 131	I once a had a puppy who did something similiar. Buster was a norfolk terrier. He had low blood sugar. If it happens again try some nutra-cal or sugar water. If it is low blood sugar and you don't do anything about it, it can cause blindness and even death. I sure hope your baby is okay. Our puppy who had low blood sugar and an intestinal problem died. He wasn't absorbing his food. It was a lot of heartache and a high vet bill to help him and he still didn't make it even after IV's and an over night stay. They said because he was so small he just couldn't fight it. Please watch your little guy closely.

10-01-2006, 11:36 AM	#27
PCMom Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Location: California Posts: 85	First let me say how happy I am that BooBear is back to normal. I don't want to scare you but I do want to make you aware. As many people here know my yorkie, Pepper, has a neurological illness called Cerebellar Abiotrophy. It affects his nervous system, meaning he can't walk, sit, stand, eat, drink, pee etc. without falling over.He also has seizures and vomits almost everyday. He is like this about 65% of the time now. It started out that these spells would last a few minutes and would only hit once or twice a week. Now its everyday and lasts for hours. One of the symptoms is that head movement you mentioned. My hubby and I discribe it as "doing a Katherine Hepburn" sounds terrible but does give you an idea what it looks like. The thing about CA is that ALL tests come back normal. The only way to know for absolute sure that a pup has it is by autopsy or brain biopsy. So the vets make an educated guess based on a process of elimination. Like I said, I don't want to scare you but I do want you to be aware! This illness is genetic...the females are the carriers, the males get the illness. When I got Pepper at 4 months of age the vets told me he wouldn't make it a year...he is now 2 1/2 years old. There is no cure for it and it is getting worse. When his life gets to be more of a burden to him then a joy I will have to let him go...but for now he is a very happy, very spoiled yorkie! It took me a year and a half to find a vet who would treat him for normal stuff...the rest just acted like it was a waste of their precious time or they wanted to re-run very expensive tests that they knew had already been done at least twice. I guess there are people like that in every profession and I am so sorry that you had to deal with one while you were scared for your poor baby! As I said, I am so glad booBear is feeling better! __________________ Miss Pep C & Kathy Member of the Spoiled Rotten Club RIP Sir Pepper and Charlie Love

10-01-2006, 12:14 PM	#28
ChestersMom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bacliff, TX Posts: 947	Guess this sort of stuff happens everywhere. I rescued a 15-year-old Yorkie a few years ago who had been dumped at the animal shelter. Supposedly, the owner had called and said she had been spayed. Well, three weeks later we had an emergency hysterectomy at a cost of $365.00. I decided to call the same vet later (not giving my name) to find out how much it was to spay they quoted me less than $100.00. When I confronted the vet when I took her back for a check-up she cited risk as the reason it was so much more. I made it very clear to her that "risk" costs absolutely nothing and that it was the dog taking the risk, not her. I never went back to that clinic. Guess I'm in the wrong profession. But then, I'm the kind that would take chicken and vegetables as payment. SOOOO GLAD Boo is better. Keep an eye on him and we'll all pray it's not going to happen again.