why did she even have intact males anyway, was she a breeder. If someone does not breed I will never understand why they don't get their dogs fixed

yes I failed my girl.
 

I was going to write an explanation of what happened. But, truth is I failed my girl. NO I am not a breeder. I did not protect my girl the way I should have. She has in fact delivered 4 puppies on Tuesday. She has been to the vet for a check up yesterday. With Linda's suggestion I called and got her in earlier. This is not something we wanted to happen to our girl. We thought we had protected her.

Linda, you know how bad I feel about this. This is why I called and told you and no one else. You were helpful and led me to a person who could help me with this and help me get prepared for it. You asked about her going to the vet, I told you she had an appointment Friday. But, as you suggested I brought her the next day. She is doing well, we had blood work done again, it all came back good. We can not do another Bile Acid until the puppies are wiened as she will have to fast for this. We do have her calcium pills to help her with nursing. Yes the picture I posted was not the best of her. She had just had her last puppy and just finished cleaning it. Not to mention the really bad hair cut I gave her.

There are alot of things I have learned from this group. If it were not for a lot of you I don't know what I would have done.

Yes she was indeed scheduled for her Spayed, teeth pulled and the liver biopsy to hopefully tell us if it was the Trifexis that made her sick.

I feel I not only let my Piper Girl down. But a lot of you who helped me and Piper down. For this I am truly sorry.

Remorse. Linda you have no idea how much Remorse I have. Knowing what I put my girl thru.

Your friendship and your kindness has always meant alot to me. But, as with everything else I have lost that. So I want to thank you for everything you did for me and Piper.

When someone screws up and then steps up to take responsibility and express their remorse then I, for one, will forgive them for being careless. Losing the friendship of someone you respect is very sad. Maybe with time the damage can be repaired.

I don't want to start anything but when you said that I'm not the one paying the vet bills of $10,000 to save her that lead me to believe that you were breeding to try and make some money for those bills. That could just be my interpretation though.

after Read what I sent you. I realized you may think that. But I assure you. That is not the case. I have worked as much overtime my boss would let me so I can pay these bills. She is worth every long day I put in.

it's really none of my business but why was is your male not fixed, it's always a good idea to fix non breeding dogs but especially so when you have unfixed females around so I can't help but wonder why

All I can say is just "wow"
I pray little piper warrior girl is well and her puppies will grow to be strong healthy babies. I do believe it was an accident, I just cannot bring myself to believe you would intentionally put piper at risk after all she went through.

Piper and her puppies are doing well. She has another vet visit today along with her puppies. We want to make sure she is producing the milk she needs, even tho the puppies have all gained weight. The puppies will be checked out. Tails docked and dew claws removed.

I assure you all this is not something we wanted to happen. We are already dealing with a daughter who is having a very difficult pregnancy and has not been able to work. With this being said, her long term insurance only pays her 60% of her pay. So between us and her dad, we are having to make sure her and her other 2 children keep their home, food on the table and the things she needs for our upcoming grandson. Her Husband has finally found a better paying job so this will now help us some.

With taking care of them, still paying Pipers bills from previous illness and still trying to keep a roof over our head. This was not anything I wanted to happen. This is not an added expense that we needed. But, it happened and we will take care of it.

We are far from being perfect. I'm sure everyone one of us has made a mistake in their lives.

I received a few really nasty personal messages from people I don't even know, who condemned us without even knowing us or what happened. They don't know the lengths we have gone thru to save our Piper.
They don't know all the crying I did when she got sick and we thought we were going to loose her. They don't know that I have a kind boss who let me leave work early everyday she was in that hospital to go visit her so she never thought I abandoned her. A boss that let me come in on the weekend and make up the hours I missed so I could get my 40 hour check. They don't know that twice the vet told us to let her go that there was nothing else they could do for her. They don't know we maxed out everything we had, paid bills late, or not at all that month just so we could give her 1 more day to fight.

We believe our pets are our family. We took them on and it is our job to take care of them.

We had not even had Piper 2 months when she got sick. How many people do you know would take on that expense on a puppy they only had for 2 months? Alot of people would have just let her go. Are the vet would have been calling someone like Linda to save her.

We made a mistake of taking in a male Yorkie who's owner was keeping him outside on a chain because the could not house break him and their 2 young children tormented him. We had him a total of maybe 4 weeks until I could find him a new home. In this time Piper who had never gone into heat. Decided to within a weeks time. We kept them apart while we were not home. And when we were, she would have a diaper on and he would have a belly band on. She was kept in my bathroom at night and he in his kennel. We did this until we thought she was clear of this heat. No more sniffing or humping going on. We thought we were clear of any chances of pregnancy. Unfortunately we were wrong.

She will be spayed as soon as the vet says she is ok to do so.

My personal male is already neutered. My other female who was rescued from the humane society is already spayed.

So yes, we made a mistake. In this mistake we saved a little boy, but could have cost us our little girl. This little boy (Lucky) is now in a wonderful home with a yorkie brother. He is with a co-worker and is living a spoiled country life.

The puppies will be going to homes of 3 really good friends and 1 to my mother. My friends and my mom all know of Pipers issues but are willing to take them anyhow. My mom who already has 3 spoiled rotten yorkies is already sewing a bed and blankets for her new little boy, and making dresses for the girls to wear to their new homes.

We have to live with our mistake. But, we will do everything we can to make sure this mistake never happens again.

I wish you had just left the post from the other day and not commented further, because all I hear now is poor me and look at the good I have done. Sorry, but you could have had Piccolo neutered a year ago....wasn't he just recently neutered? Are you really sure who the father is if you had yet another intact male in your home?

You sent me a text asking why I attacked you...I have not attacked you. I am simply so sad for Piper....whether you like hearing it or not it was totally irresponsible to allow this to happen to her and to her puppies. To say I am disappointed is putting it mildly. Personally, I think you took that chance because you believe Trifexis caused her liver issues. Bottom line, you don't know and you also were told that her liver is still affected by whatever it is ...so why she was put at risk is beyond my comprehension. As to the comments about someone like Linda would have saved her....yes, that is true AND they would have never allowed something like this to happen. Rescues don't house intact animals together whether healthy or not.

I didn't want to say anything more, but your post this morning was so full of the poor me's that I had to. Trust me I know about vet bills and life's issues .. and I am not unsympathetic, but what does that all have to do with Piper being put at risk? I hope that you have learned....and hope others will learn from it as well. I pray that Piper and her puppies will be ok. Nothing more I can say about this.

This was not a oh poor me. I own up to what I did and I take responsibilty for it. I just don't like the personal attacks that I got.

I am leaving this as it is. I want to thank everyone for all the prayers and advice I have received from this sight. Now I will be concentrating on Piper and her babies, and my family.

Thank you for the kind words Joan. This board has helped me out with so many things. I will keep ya'll informed on Piper and the puppies. We have our next appointment today at 3 pm. I will post Monday how they are doing.

I don't know about personal attacks. You accused me of attacking and quite frankly I fail to see how. I assisted you in finding someone to help you, but beyond that I was done. I simply will never comprehend how this could happen.

You say you received a lot of messages...well so did I. Calls, texts and private messages here and on FB. Why? Because I went to bat and I asked people to help and they were stunned....they didn't see anything but the photos of Piper's puppies being posted all over FB and people clammoring over them wanting to buy them...asking you how much. They didn't see a person horrified by an "oopsie" pregnancy. I didn't see it so I don't know what the posts looked like (I unfriended you right away so I would not see them...not something that I could hack) but I understand that no one was informed that this was an accident and that you or anyone else was worried about the health of the mom and the puppies. What I was told was that it looked like a celebration of the birth of these puppies.

Whatever....it's done now. I did not attack you....I distanced myself because it made me so upset. I made a public apology to all of my friends for involving them. I had let my guard down and won't do it again. As I said previously, I will not ever support an individuals efforts to vet their personal pups. I will stick with helping rescue.

Enemies????? She does not have enemies....people are very upset about this "oopsie" thing. I spoke with Bobbie AT LENGTH about getting her boy neutered and I will never understand how it was put off this long.

She said she made a mistake and let Piper down. IMO she should have left it at that. To come back and post again is subjecting yourself to more....just let it be.

But, I am not now, nor was I ever, an enemy.

Maybe you should ask for this thread to be closed and start a new one. I know many of us only want the best for Piper and her puppies.

If you don't know how, just click on the little triangle with the exclamation point at the bottom left and ask for the thread to be closed. You can do that because you started the thread. :)

Better for everyone to move on......