Demodectic Mange
 

My dog has demodectic mange. It looks like a ring work on a localized area and all of the hair on the infected area has fallen :(( according to the vet it is hereditary and acquired from the mom :( has anyone here experienced this and what is the medication given?

Our vet recommended shots every week for 6 weeks and a medicated shampoo for twice a week bath.

Please share your experience if your dog had this mite.

Thanks

My chachi had it yrs ago and had to have a series of dips Im sure they treat it differently now though like I said that was yrs ago. He was fine after treatments and no reaccurance of it

What a relief! :) is it an easy to cure type of skin disease? Im also glad that it was just localized in one area. How long before chachi was cured?

I have dealt with it with foster dogs before, most recently a Bullmastiff. The more research I did, the more I was personally against shots and dips for minor cases. There is a very safe and effective home treatment using hydrogen peroxide, Borax detergent booster and water. I know it sounds weird, and possibly intimidating, it is very, very safe and may be worth a try before trying toxic dips. The technique can easily be found on the web.

Also...it is very common. ALL dogs carry the demodectic mites, but pups and dogs with weaker immune systems just have a hard time fighting off the mites, so they begin to show symptoms.

The vet is giving him ivermectin shots. He only has 1 patch. Is this too much? Will he be able to recover from this?

I'm by no means an expert, just read some things. Personally, for just one spot, I would try home treatment first. Chances are the medicine won't harm him, but with such a minor case, I'd err on the side of caution. If it continued to spread, then I would seek more aggressive treatment. My last foster had at least fifteen small patches and I was able to clear it with the solution described above within two months, doing treating baths every week.

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Good Luck, it will be ok as long as you do everything necessary!

I'm actually having doubts on using the treatment prescribed by our vet because I myself think it is too aggressive. I'll consider your suggestion and thank you so much for your help :) god bless you! :)

Thanks! I hope he'll be okay soon :( i am really over protective with my boogie. It's just that I dont want anything that compromises his well being :) im just so inlove with him 😍❤️❤️

Never give up! I'm so glad you are committed to taking care of your boogie woogie!!! lol Just love the original name!

I have a rescue with Demodex, and with in 2 1/2 months he got his first clear hairpluck/skin scrape; fingers crossed for this week we go in for hopefully our second clear. My foster is also on Ivermectin, although I do oral liquid for him. When I received him he had one patch (mild) on right rear haunch and both eyes were affected.

This has worked for us, along with good food, 2x monthly baths(gentle shampoo), eye washes(just to keep the eye area clean along with some meds for his eye condition).

While puppies that have an undeveloped immune system do usually contract this from the Mother, in older dogs it is thought that their immune system is depressed.

Good luck with your puppy

No dont listen to this advice please. Treat it now with what your vet has prescribed. It sounds like it isnt that bad right now but it could quickly spread, It covered all of his back and he had open wounds before the vet discovered it was mites and he got the correct treatment, You are doing the right thing. If there were any side effects from the meds you would have already seen them and the effects of mange are more dangerous if untreated than any med. It took chachi about 5 dips before he was mite free but again his case sounds alot worse than yours

Research it before putting it down, please. I have personally dealt with dogs who have gotten very ill from the dips vets prescribe a lot. They can be extremely toxic and wreak havoc on the hypothalamus.

Also, OP...go grain free, yeast free if at all possible because the mites thrive on them.

He isnt getting the dips he is getting the shots and you are being very irresponsible for giving someone advuce to not go along with the vets plan of treatment. You are not a vet and you shouldnt be giving that advice its dangerous

First, you have no idea what education I have, thanks, and I find your assumptions quite insulting, and downright rude. I was nothing but polite to you.

Second, I never said NOT to go with the vet's advice, I said what I PERSONALLY, having MUCH experience in this area, would do FIRST.

For your information, the dip I am telling the OP about is very, very safe (safer than table salt, to be exact) and quite effective with mild demodex cases. I have had at least ten fosters with demodectic mange and only ONE that had to be treated with any type of pharmaceutical.

Last I checked, this was a public forum and people are looking for, maybe...possibly, more than one cookie cutter response. I was simply giving another point of view. Have a lovely day :)

Again your not a vet and yes you did tell him not to get the shots. Im not being rude either I have experience with mange too that doesnt make my opinion outweigh a vets diagnosis and treatment and neither does it for you

I did extensive research on this issue....and the severity of the disease process varies. Of course, the more involved the symptoms are, the more aggressive you must treat it. I had several articles that specifically pointed out it is NOT a genetic /hereditary issue, all dogs have this mite, and it is when the immune system is slow to develop or is immature that the mite takes over....... and the article also encourages a completely grain free diet. This article indicated a female that is suffering from this issue, can used for breeding if treated with strict diet control....treat her for a year and then she will be able to be used for breeding again with no problems for her or the puppies. Meds that boost the immune system, along with the grain free diet, for one year, will correct the issue in the breeding female and she will have litters that do not have the issue. I put this to test, as I did have a female that had a minor case of this.....she had 3 litters with no problems at all, then her 4th litter, out of 5 babies, she had 1 male that had the problem. While it was considered localized on the male puppy, it was significantly more involved than with the momma. We did the Ivermectin shots, I gave him Ivermectin by mouth along with immune booster herbs, and when the meds were stopped because the symptoms had disappeared, the rash returned. I converted both momma and (adult) baby to grain free diets and a year later, both were asymptomatic. I have not bred that female again....dont know if I will.....she was very expensive and has a fabulous pedigree. I was told by people that are experts in this, that the male could be used for stud because the mite is passed from the momma to each puppy.....males are not around the puppies to transmit the mite. The jury is still out as to whether I will breed the female......I hate to loose this great line and out of 17 puppies, she only had one that suffered from the issue.....and he is a gorgeous dog that would throw gorgeous babies. Since the issue is cured in both these dogs now, I have been reassured litters produced by either dog would be fine. I am still overly cautious....rather safe than sorry. (I will say I never did use the dip on either of these dogs.....I was cautioned about the toxic effects of that dip and advised to use it ONLY if the situation was deteriorating out of control.)

I gave an opinion. A sound opinion. I will let the OP decide for herself after doing whatever research she feels necessary, and I will allow you to get over yourself. Again, best wishes for a fabulous day.

A dangerous opinion and please keep your ungenuine have a good day to yourself by the way you never mentioned to her to do research

Oh...and for fun. I am not a vet. You are correct. My father, however, is...and I grew up in a vet clinic and non-profit rescue. That a long time ago though, so at this point I am strictly speaking of my more recent fostering experiences.

I am sorry but I forgot to mention we do monthly blood work to check liver function as Ivermectin in dosages given to combat Demodex can be toxic to the liver.

I was never advised to do dips - perhaps because his demodex in main was surrounding his eyes, and he had other eye problems going on at the time.

My philosophy is if the treatment works, don't mess with it, baring other serious issues or complications.

Also I have a double coated breed and I was advised to keep the coat short, and to thoroughly blow dry the coat after each bath. Humidity and moisture is a thriving environment for these mites.

I agree with you about the dips after I have researched them. This was done to chachi 8 yrs ago and he was a severe case. So would I do it again I dont know but he is going on 10 yrs old and has shown no ill affects from it

Yes, I did. I told her..."the technique can easily be found on the web". Verbatim.

Is having to spell out everything like I'm talking to children a solid rule for this site, or is that exclusive only to a few of you?

Pray tell, what is dangerous about my opinion? Trying a month of homeopathic, safe treatment is not detrimental to the health of the dog. Demodex is not fatal. If a safer, less big pharm treatment works, what is the harm? If it doesn't work, a more aggressive approach can be taken. Why START with aggressive? It's not cancer or bloat or poisoning...it is a mild skin problem.

I'm not trying to be nasty. I'm just having a difficult time understanding why you are so hell bent on being nasty to me because I have a different opinion than you. It's rather disturbing.

Its disturbing to me when someone who is not a vet tells someone to go against vet treatment. Mange isnt a mild skin infection and it can get very sever and lead to staph infections or even get to the point it is untreatable. The op is not the only one reading this advice but everyone else on here that has a dog being treated by a vet and its just not cool or sound advice to give someone to go against their vets plan of treatment

Here is my opinion for this condition in this instance as described. It presents a philosophical viewpoint if you will, or my stance on health care.

I try to weigh all the risks versus benefits of a particular condition and treatment thereof. If my vet prescribes an "aggressive" treatment I would want to know why.

In my opinion mange can get out of control pretty quickly especially if there are underlying other health factors, and you don't know that at the initial diagnosis of Mange. If a three month dose of Ivermection can avoid this, with minimal risk to the liver, and the proper screening of liver function, then I say go for it.

If keeping the hair short and blow drying, and having a de-humidifier in the room works to keep moisture at bay so be it.

I also wash out his crate daily with a mild bleach solution and our den/doggy room.

I also say go for grain free, yeast free diet, and immune supportive herbs.

Okay. Whatever you say. You are clearly only reading what you want. I have just as much right to share my experiences and opinions as you do, and will continue to do so despite what you think.

I would go with the advice of a vet over advice on the web any day of the week and if your father was a vet you should know how dangerous it is for someone on an online forum to give someone advice to go against a vets plan for treatment

Well, that is a difference of character then. I prefer to weigh options and research a number of options before following ANY person blindly. My dad, the vet, taught me that.

Research is fine but the treatment plan this vet has prescribed is not out of the norm. I dont think anyone but another vet should give someone advice to follow a vet treatment. It is fine to tell someone to research but thats not what you did and I will never go along with someone doing that