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Ellie May 04-27-2013 07:36 PM

Restlessns with an upset tummy is normal as well as mild quirky rubbing behaviors. Ellie rubs her face on furniture after she eats.

MomtoJasper 04-28-2013 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4198621)
Bile Acid Test. It can tell how well the liver is doing removing bile acids from the blood after digestion of fatty foods.

Oh I see now. Thank you for explaining. So much to learn with these sweet creatures.

How is Tibbe today?

sandy simpson 04-28-2013 07:21 AM

My Spud rubs his face on the chairs. I thought that was a normal Yorkie activity. I wonder if Tibbe should be on any kind of a bland diet because he is having stomach issues. Whatever the vet says to do. Watch everything he eats and I would not do any flea meds until he is better. I do hope this little fella starts feeling like himself again. It is very frustrating not knowing what is going on and you know he is not himself. Healing prayers for you and sweet Tibbe.

yorkietalkjilly 04-28-2013 01:18 PM

He's been on Hill's I/D GI for the past year but Friday the vet changed him to Hill's I/D Low Fat and he seems to be doing better. He's had breakfast today and demanded a "Seek Treat" session twice in the last 30 minutes where I hide his kibble around the house while he waits on the couch and he goes and seeks it out, crunches it down. I didn't know if he'd accept that low fat food made mostly of grains and easily-digestible things as his treats but he does. I looked at the ingredients of the Hill's and it's not too impressive but anything that will help him not be sick is what it takes. He's about 90% himself today but still lacking his full force zest for life and fun.

It's good to know a lot of dogs rub their face and I've had others do that but not Scotty or Jilly. But he doe it only sporadically and not for very long and at the same times - when I go to the restroom sometimes and sometimes on the doggie steps when he's waiting for me to get up and open the door to go outside. It seems more like a habit now. He won't just get up and go rub his face and he never does headpressing, drooling, circling or is uncoordinated or weak, etc. That Ginger video really shook me up last night after seeing that little thing rubbing her face as she did and pressing her little head, unable to just just up the stairs. She seemed to be suffering. If I were around a dog that acted like that, we'd be off to the vet right then.

yorkietalkjilly 04-28-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MomtoJasper (Post 4198850)
Oh I see now. Thank you for explaining. So much to learn with these sweet creatures.

How is Tibbe today?

I do too! Much to learn. And I just got my explanation off one of the shunt websites. I'm far from any expert and just learning. For all I know, the bile acids test studies how the liver works to process protein and fat and even more things - I just don't know. I read a little every day until my eyes kind of give out or I get too worried. Then I stop and read more when I can.

lisaly 04-28-2013 07:29 PM

You and Tibbe have never been far from my thoughts over the past couple of days. I'm so relieved that Tibbe is 90% himself. I'm waiting anxiously to hear that he is all better. Be well, my friends. I'm praying for both of you.

yorkietalkjilly 04-28-2013 08:36 PM

Hopefully his BAT tomorrow will be WNL or at least not so bad he'll need surgery. He's not had that good an evening. Playing Hide and Seek Treats and doing some more training, he essentially had his evening meal and then started behaving oddly again - very clingy and standing and staring at me when he's not right beside me or on me. He's following me everywhere, ears out to his side. He's unhappy and I don't know why.

Thank you all again for all your prayers and good thoughts.

kjc 04-28-2013 10:01 PM

Has Tibbe had any UTIs? Just remember a High BAT result does not always mean Liver Shunt. Tink's were way high and she had no large shunt. Her bile duct (from the liver to the gall bladder) was blocked, which was remedied with medication.

Was he tested for pancreatitis?

lisaly 04-29-2013 12:25 AM

You both have been through so much. I'm praying for excellent results and for Tibbe to feel completely well again.

yorkietalkjilly 04-29-2013 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kjc (Post 4199634)
Has Tibbe had any UTIs? Just remember a High BAT result does not always mean Liver Shunt. Tink's were way high and she had no large shunt. Her bile duct (from the liver to the gall bladder) was blocked, which was remedied with medication.

Was he tested for pancreatitis?

No. Never and doesn't show frequency or problems. No thick, discolored or smelly residue or blood around the opening of urethra or on the hair. He seems ok in that department so far in his life. But that is good info to know for future reference.

They did a SNAP test for pancreatitis last June or July during his last big bout of this and it was normal.

rubymoon2072 04-29-2013 07:39 AM

i am just seeing this prayers for you and tibbe.

lynzy420 04-29-2013 08:01 AM

Oh Jeanie, so sorry for all you've been going through and Tibbe, you know how much I adore him!! His pic is on my shelf at work!! Love Tibbe, give him a nose nuggie for me!

yorkietalkjilly 04-29-2013 08:29 AM

No BAT today - Tibbe had a stash!
 
I'm so frustrated we have to wait a day for Tibbe's BAT. I fell asleep on the couch last night around 9:15 pm or so after taking Tibbe's bowl up about 8:30 pm to start his 12 hour fast so I could take him in for is test today. I woke up around the 10 o'clock news was coming on to the sound of Tibbe crunching kibble! I sat up and there he stood crunching! I didn't worry too much thinking one piece of leftover kibble from our Hide and Seek Treats game wasn't going to make a big difference in his test. Went to bed and soon there was Tibbe coming into the bedroom and then started crunching more kibble he obviously had in his mouth! Where was he getting this stuff? Still, I didn't worry too much over 2 pieces but got out of bed and looked around in the den for anymore kibble he could have missed in our Seek game and there was nothing. The spots I hide it in and all around them were free of kibble. Back to bed and just as I'm drifting off, Tibbe comes back in the bedroom, apparently with another piece or two of kibble in his mouth, and starts to crunch away, even dropping one piece on the rug as I looked down at him. Half asleep, I got up to get it but he grabbed it up and gulped it whole as I was still sitting up! Back out of bed and down the hall and into the den and living room with even a flashlight to shine in any nooks and crannies and no kibble anywhere. But I realize that by now he's had 4 pieces at least of kibble during his fast and who knows how much else he might have eaten down in the den after I was in bed - from wherever he'd got his stash of old goodies.

Today, I did find what could be a few crumbs of kibble down in the corner of the couch under his CedricNLola blanket and wonder if my little prince has been stashing kibble there for some reason! He's never ever done that before as far as I know and maybe that was crumbs of something else he stashed there but now I'm spending the day and taking my time going over every place I can think of to find stashed kibble. I did find about 3 pieces in his Squirrel In The Stump toy and 2 in his toy basket! At times as a game I do sprinkle kibble treats over his toy basket and he tears out his toys one by one to hunt for the kibble in there and I guess he missed those B4. Ugh! I've found one piece in his airline carrier and one on the Utility Porch floor near the door. Turns out, there seems to be kibble all over this house even though it is cleaned regularly. So, I just don't know where any other pieces of kibble might be but apparently he knows the places and can readily access them all with his nose anytime and he did that last night after his bowl was taken up!

Anyway, after at least 4 pieces of kibble after his fast began and who knows how many more he could have scarfed, I had to forego his BAT today. Now another day of waiting and gearing up for the whole thing again tonight and start that dread and worry all over again. Grrrrr.

Then, on top of everything else, he woke me at 5:20 am this morning growling his adorable "I want" growl and barking and doing his cutest antics to get me up from bed and following him into the kitchen where he led me to his empty bowl spot and started spinning around and barking earnestly at me and looking at that empty spot and back to me and at the spot and back to me and at the spot and back to me. That little boy was hungry and then some! I had given up on his BAT for today anyway after all those kibbles he ate so I dished up his breakfast and he stood over that bowl and crunched and crunched and crunched away. He was so full when he joined me on the couch under the afghan and turned on his back for a tummy rub that his tummy seemed rounded up and out! Back to sleep he went. I soon joined him in sleep and we slept in a bit. Guess I was pretty tired to sleep almost 12 hours, off and on.

I have realized that I'm going to have to barricade him in the bedroom tonight just in case he still has an unknown kibble resources somewhere. And I've searched it already and found no kibble. We're getting that BAT tomorrow come h_ _ _ or high-water!

kjc 04-29-2013 09:43 AM

Oh my! The Tibster is on the loose!

Yorkiemom1 04-29-2013 11:09 AM

He has a stash just in case he is ever starving to death.....like THAT is ever going to happen!!!....and he has to rely on self perservation instincts!!!! I love all the little rituals they have....so adorable and I swear, you can actually HEAR them telling you exactly what they want! I am glad he is feeling better.....and doing his "little things" that tug at your heart strings....

yorkietalkjilly 04-29-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 4199940)
He has a stash just in case he is ever starving to death.....like THAT is ever going to happen!!!....and he has to rely on self perservation instincts!!!! I love all the little rituals they have....so adorable and I swear, you can actually HEAR them telling you exactly what they want! I am glad he is feeling better.....and doing his "little things" that tug at your heart strings....

Who would have thought he would sabotage his test like that!!! Little stinker! He is back to himself now - he dog-laughed for the first time today and normally, he dog-laughs a lot as he's so upbeat and into all things. When he is ill or feeling bad, I wait for that first dog-laugh to tell me he's Tibbe again.

And isn't it so like a Yorkie to have squirreled away some goodies and know exactly where they are since his mommie decided to starve him to death two hours after his dinner!!!!!!

LanaHamilton 04-29-2013 12:45 PM

Prayers are with you and little Tebbe, I hope everything will be ok!

lisaly 04-29-2013 03:23 PM

And this is one of the many reasons why I love Tibbe so much. I feel so bad that your worrying still remains, but I'm so trilled to hear that Tibbe has begun his dog laughs once again.

jacquelinebabco 04-29-2013 03:34 PM

What a smart little guy to prepare for emergencies that his mom causes him. I'm sure you will be relieved with great results when the test is over. Keeping you both I'm my thoughts and prayers!

Jacksmom052709 04-29-2013 03:50 PM

Jeanie - just now seeing this (I typically don't visit this thread as it depresses me) and sending you and Tibbe lots of prayers and good thoughts. Hope his BAT goes well tomorrow!

Maximo 04-29-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4200023)
Who would have thought he would sabotage his test like that!!! Little stinker! He is back to himself now - he dog-laughed for the first time today and normally, he dog-laughs a lot as he's so upbeat and into all things. When he is ill or feeling bad, I wait for that first dog-laugh to tell me he's Tibbe again.

And isn't it so like a Yorkie to have squirreled away some goodies and know exactly where they are since his mommie decided to starve him to death two hours after his dinner!!!!!!

Oh no, Tibbe! Happy to hear he is laughing and back to himself. Hoping tonight he will abide by the necessary fasting so that he can have the tests done tomorrow. Praying for good results. :)

yorkietalkjilly 04-29-2013 08:18 PM

He hasn't had a good night. Scratching a lot and restless. Cannot settle to sleep - he's been up and down 50 times since about 8:00 p.m. - seems quite hyper. I'm about to get desperate and give him some Benadryl. If I can't sleep tonight, I can't get him to his appt. tomorrow - without sleep I get too dizzy to drive and always have for some reason. He's lying in the window sill gnawing at his front feet right now. I wonder if it is all the junk in that Hill's I/D Low Fat - the corn meal and things like that that is itching him and the histamine making him hyper. Now he's scratching his belly again with his hind feet - just like he did on the Royal Canin GI last year. He started doing that a lot tonight. Now he's trying to jump down off the couch. Usually by this time, he's been asleep for hours but tonight he cannot settle. He's not clingy though and he's not acting nauseated or having loud tummy sounds etc like when his tummy is bad. His head is up and his ears pricked. It's pretty awful to see him so miserable. And just a few hours ago he was fine and happy. Poor little thing.

kjc 04-29-2013 09:45 PM

Aw! Poor Tibbe... have you ever tried homecooking for him... even just a bland diet for his upset times? Definitely sounds like an allergic reaction going on...

AnneJ68 04-30-2013 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4198226)
d I'm scared to death to do it. I hate gutless people but I'm scared silly to find out he could be very ill. I'm just scared to death. I obviously have no spine now. After so much illness, bad news and horror stories all of Jilly's life, you'd think I would be tough as a boot but now I find I'm a mass of jelly. I'm sick to my stomach and feel butterflies.

Tibbe, is your baby. Your not gutless, spineless, or a mass of jelly. You are a loving caring human who wants nothing but the best for Tibbe. And that's why Tibbe is lucky to have you.

Prays to you both.

yorkietalkjilly 04-30-2013 07:24 AM

Tibbe back at vet getting his BAT today.
 
Thanks again, YT, for all of these words of support. It sure helps when going through such bad times.

Tibbe is at the vet getting his BAT. We didn't have any problems with his finding kibble again last night as he just wasn't himself. He didn't really sleep all night - was too restless and he was scratching his tummy a lot with his find feet. About 11:45 pm, I gave up and though I was scared, gave him 1/4 teaspoon of Children's Benadryl. It put him to sleep for about an hour and then he woke and was more hyper than ever! To get him to stay in one place, I had to put him in his airline carrier in a chair next to the bed, propped the front of it up with his little blanket to make it hard for him to keep popping up and finally he settled down a bit. But I couldn't sleep a wink and every time I looked in his carrier door, his eyes were open. He would whine or try to stand about every 15 mins. all night. We just had a terrible night. We were both to tired this morning, we just dragged into the vet but Tibbe did get happy once they started taking him back. Then, I could hear him barking his face off trying to get noticed. It was his "look at me!" bark and I know it so well. But I could hear it all the way out the front door!!! Poor vets and vet techs!

Oh, I just found out they have to send the test off so it will be tonight or tomorrow I think she said before they get the results and can call me. So, eating is pretty much out. I stopped for chocolate-covered donuts on the way back from the vet - was so hungry I thought - ate 3 bites and put it back for later. Can't eat or even digest food.

Yorkiemom1 04-30-2013 07:44 AM

These babies will kill us, wont they??! It is sheer torture to see them as miserable as poor little Tibbe was last night....and you having to jump thru hoops, trying desperately to get him relief and calm enough for both of you to get some sleep. I could really "feel your pain" as you did this, then did that, then checked continually....been there, done that.....you survived last night, and at least you are almost finished with this next part! Then we wait for the results...but Tibbe will be home soon!

yorkiemini 04-30-2013 08:19 AM

I so want to do something to help you, but don't know what it could be, so I will keep,offering up prayers and sending you the "be strong" vibes. I could not sleep or eat the days Cali was T the vets with her little tummy problem, so I know how exhausted you can get.

Keep the faith and keep,counting you blessings!

lisaly 04-30-2013 01:43 PM

The wait is now so difficult, and I know how beat up and scared you must feel. I can feel your love in every written word, and I can't wait for the day that you can rest easily. You and Tibbe are so lucky to have each other. I hope you are resting and that you feel better soon.

Lisa and Pic 04-30-2013 01:46 PM

Prayers for little Tibbe and for you. (Especially prayers for Tibbe to get some relief and for you both to have a good night's sleep tonight.)

Juliealfies mum 04-30-2013 01:48 PM

Sending some hugs for you and little Tibbe, I hope you have a better night tonight.


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