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BlueBelle · 04-09-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 107barney

I agree that you need to take this dog to a board certified surgeon for an opinion. Best wishes.

What she said

ladyjane · 04-09-2013, 01:32 PM

Your puppy absolutely needs to be seen by a board certified surgeon. There is about a 5 percent (which means a 95 percent failure rate); chance that a splint will work in this area. Most vets are very aware of this...yet they still do it to help people cut cost. In the end many of the pups end up needing bone grafting after these splints do not work and the bone does not heal. The pups suffer in the meantime.
Please get a second opinion from a boarded surgeon ..

kimp5 · 04-09-2013, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Your puppy absolutely needs to be seen by a board certified surgeon. There is about a 5 percent (which means a 95 percent failure rate); chance that a splint will work in this area. Most vets are very aware of this...yet they still do it to help people cut cost. In the end many of the pups end up needing bone grafting after these splints do not work and the bone does not heal. The pups suffer in the meantime.
Please get a second opinion from a boarded surgeon ..

my story exactly...luckily my ending seems that the bone is healing ( isaw it) but Im sure the grafts made the difference and a great surgeon....an I barely let her move for 7 weeks

sherreegowen33 · 04-09-2013, 03:28 PM

Praying all heals well for Reese. Don't feel bad Mommy, accidents happen.
My heart is breaking for you though, hard being a mommy and your baby gets hurt...

Buster Brown · 04-09-2013, 04:07 PM

I am so sorry to hear about your baby's accident. I too would recommend a board certified Orthopedist. You really want this to heal correctly so as to lessen the amount pain now, dogs will hide the pain, and the pain of arthritis in the leg in later years.
Best wishes and prayers for baby Reese and hugs for you accidents happen.

Yorkiedaze · 04-09-2013, 05:57 PM

I got a 4 month old long hair Chihuahua out of the shelter a few years ago with a broken foot as well. The Vet. was very good at putting that foot in a splint and it healed perfectly. Guess it depends on how good the Vet. is. Anyway I wrapped the splint with saran wrap and taped it so she could go outside to potty and not get it wet from the damp grass or dirty. Never a problem.

MomtoJasper · 04-09-2013, 06:33 PM

I'm so sorry to hear about your Reese. I am also a newbie here. I have only had my Jasper for a week and a half. I know I would be feeling the same guilt as you. But, as others have said accidents happen. You are doing all of the right things for your baby now. Praying he gets relief soon.

Steph & Jasper

ReesesPieces · 04-10-2013, 12:59 AM

Thanks everyone for the advice. I have checked up on the vet who seen him and he specialises in orthopedic surgery in paticular fracture and lameness treatments so its seems he should know what he is doing, I am going to take him for a second opinion this evening though as I am so worried this will have lasting damage.

He slept so well last night, the whole night with only 1 teeny cry at 4am and that was it.

He does not seem to like outside. He shakes when I bring him to the door and every more so when we go outside.

A question for those with pups with breaks before, I have seen it is best to keep him as still as possible but others say still but with room to walk around. I have set up a make shift play pen for him, so he has hit crate which opens into the pen which is also the size of his crate. Does this sound like too much room for him when I need to leave him alone for any length of time? My family have told me just the crate is too small and is cruel but I don't want him getting more hurt?

So sorry for all the questions! I must sound so silly.

kimp5 · 04-10-2013, 05:28 AM

Hi,
Mine is just finishing up her crate restriction. I have to tell you she was in a small crate most of the time. I was told as little to no movement as possible.
No pen. She was in a crate at night that was big enough for a bed pee pad. I hung a water bottle on the side. When she was trying to be active I put her in a smaller crate so she could only get up turn around and sit down.
When we were home we let her sit on our lap on the floor. If she got feisty, in the crate she went. I would suggest some tranquilzers to take the edge off.
Cruel? it will feel that way, trust me. Just make sure she gets plenty of lap time. Its the best thing for her. My dog did a pen with a cast and it didnt work at all. The vet never told me to totally restrict her (not that the cast would have worked anyway in my case but it was worse after 5 weeks)
My surgeon said no walking around..zero..except if shes outdoor potty trained (she isnt) and even then just small circles. She stood alot and turned around. I had to pad her crate bottom because yorkies like to jump/stand. I also had to lower the top roof (my husband designed a makeshift roof. It was really hard but today she has graduated out of the crate with 1 block walks a couple times a day and can now be in a small room (I have a 4 ft by 10 foot screened area she walks around in, but that just started yesterday) Her leg is totally functional and the surgeon was amazed even her ulna healed which he did not expect, but wont be able to run/play for another 3 months...ugh Im almost there..I remember thinking OMG I cant do this but it passes faster than you think...

kimp5 · 04-10-2013, 05:29 AM

Oh and mine shook going outside alot at the beginning but that wears off over time...just take him out a little at a time..in your arms

ladyjane · 04-10-2013, 05:50 AM

I can only pray that your second opinion is with a board certified surgeon. I have never heard of "rods" put in the wrist joint of a pup (the repair is different than that from what I know)....and I have had three vets give me the stats that I gave you...so that 5 percent figure did not come from just one. I have a lot of experience with fractures in yorkies and am very worried for your puppy and will pray it all works out for him. Of course 5 percent is not zero...but that number would scare me.

If you need to find a boarded surgeon, you can search here:

American College of Veterinary Surgeons

Best wishes to you and your puppy. Keep us posted please.

chestermama · 04-13-2013, 10:11 PM

wishing him a speedy recovery as well, poor baby

ReesesPieces · 04-14-2013, 12:11 AM

Hi all. Quick update.

Reese has now seen another vet who told us he has extremely soft bones. (Same story) He would be very confident his bones would not hold the equipment that would be needed and he did not feel it was his best option. There was a vetinary nurse there thaa had taken the same treatment plan on her puppy a few years ago and it had all worked out great.

The vet looked at the break and checked the healing and has said he is doing incredibly well so it looks like he may be all okay. We will have to be so careful of him his whole life because of his soft bones but he is THE most well behaved little boy ever. He loves to play but is so calm about it and is just so lovely. He is fine not running about and much prefers hugs and snuggles. He is also totally fine about being alone if we have to run errands etc. He sleeps all night and goes on his pads perfectly. We were also trying to learn sit while sitting on the soft bedding yesterday and even though it was only for about 3 minutes he was getting it so well. He will be such a clever boy!

He is back to this vet on Wednesday to check it and will be going twice a week to have it looked at to make sure all is okay but he is totally confident all will heal great, he just won't be able to jump or run much ever.

Thank you all so much for your help and advice. I actually live in the UK and so don't have the board certified thing exactly but went to our sort of equivalent. You all helped me soo much! I will continue to update!

kimp5 · 04-14-2013, 03:06 AM

Can we clone him?? He sounds amazing! Mine thinks running is the only option...
Im so glad you dont have to go through the whole surgery thing, its truly hard. I didnt realize there is 10 weeks of rehab AFTER 8 weeks of crate restriction. Keep us updated!!

wisteria · 04-14-2013, 03:22 AM

oh poor Reese, I am sure you will get lots of advise.

04-09-2013, 01:32 PM	#17
ladyjane Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 27,490	Your puppy absolutely needs to be seen by a board certified surgeon. There is about a 5 percent (which means a 95 percent failure rate); chance that a splint will work in this area. Most vets are very aware of this...yet they still do it to help people cut cost. In the end many of the pups end up needing bone grafting after these splints do not work and the bone does not heal. The pups suffer in the meantime. Please get a second opinion from a boarded surgeon .. __________________ CLOUD NINE BEDS--YORKIE HAVEN RESCUE MY ETSY SHOP Last edited by ladyjane; 04-09-2013 at 01:34 PM.

04-09-2013, 04:07 PM	#20
Buster Brown Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Toluca Lake, CA Posts: 5,491	I am so sorry to hear about your baby's accident. I too would recommend a board certified Orthopedist. You really want this to heal correctly so as to lessen the amount pain now, dogs will hide the pain, and the pain of arthritis in the leg in later years. Best wishes and prayers for baby Reese and hugs for you accidents happen. __________________ CarolynBuster Brown "The happiest people don't have the best of everything, they just make the best of everything."

04-09-2013, 05:57 PM	#21
Yorkiedaze My hairy-legged girls Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lompoc, ca. Posts: 12,228	I got a 4 month old long hair Chihuahua out of the shelter a few years ago with a broken foot as well. The Vet. was very good at putting that foot in a splint and it healed perfectly. Guess it depends on how good the Vet. is. Anyway I wrapped the splint with saran wrap and taped it so she could go outside to potty and not get it wet from the damp grass or dirty. Never a problem. __________________ AZRAEL RAZAEL JILLI ANN

04-10-2013, 05:50 AM	#26
ladyjane Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 27,490	I can only pray that your second opinion is with a board certified surgeon. I have never heard of "rods" put in the wrist joint of a pup (the repair is different than that from what I know)....and I have had three vets give me the stats that I gave you...so that 5 percent figure did not come from just one. I have a lot of experience with fractures in yorkies and am very worried for your puppy and will pray it all works out for him. Of course 5 percent is not zero...but that number would scare me. If you need to find a boarded surgeon, you can search here: American College of Veterinary Surgeons Best wishes to you and your puppy. Keep us posted please. __________________ CLOUD NINE BEDS--YORKIE HAVEN RESCUE MY ETSY SHOP

04-14-2013, 03:22 AM	#30
wisteria YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Easton, PA Posts: 593	oh poor Reese, I am sure you will get lots of advise. __________________ Bella's Mom....& loving each moment!

04-09-2013, 03:28 PM	#19
sherreegowen33 YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: jerome Posts: 9	Praying all heals well for Reese. Don't feel bad Mommy, accidents happen. My heart is breaking for you though, hard being a mommy and your baby gets hurt...

04-09-2013, 06:33 PM	#22
MomtoJasper Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Munford, Tennessee, USA Posts: 1,598 Blog Entries: 2	I'm so sorry to hear about your Reese. I am also a newbie here. I have only had my Jasper for a week and a half. I know I would be feeling the same guilt as you. But, as others have said accidents happen. You are doing all of the right things for your baby now. Praying he gets relief soon. Steph & Jasper

04-10-2013, 12:59 AM	#23
ReesesPieces Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NI Posts: 14	Thanks everyone for the advice. I have checked up on the vet who seen him and he specialises in orthopedic surgery in paticular fracture and lameness treatments so its seems he should know what he is doing, I am going to take him for a second opinion this evening though as I am so worried this will have lasting damage. He slept so well last night, the whole night with only 1 teeny cry at 4am and that was it. He does not seem to like outside. He shakes when I bring him to the door and every more so when we go outside. A question for those with pups with breaks before, I have seen it is best to keep him as still as possible but others say still but with room to walk around. I have set up a make shift play pen for him, so he has hit crate which opens into the pen which is also the size of his crate. Does this sound like too much room for him when I need to leave him alone for any length of time? My family have told me just the crate is too small and is cruel but I don't want him getting more hurt? So sorry for all the questions! I must sound so silly.

04-10-2013, 05:28 AM	#24
kimp5 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Boston MA Posts: 890	Hi, Mine is just finishing up her crate restriction. I have to tell you she was in a small crate most of the time. I was told as little to no movement as possible. No pen. She was in a crate at night that was big enough for a bed pee pad. I hung a water bottle on the side. When she was trying to be active I put her in a smaller crate so she could only get up turn around and sit down. When we were home we let her sit on our lap on the floor. If she got feisty, in the crate she went. I would suggest some tranquilzers to take the edge off. Cruel? it will feel that way, trust me. Just make sure she gets plenty of lap time. Its the best thing for her. My dog did a pen with a cast and it didnt work at all. The vet never told me to totally restrict her (not that the cast would have worked anyway in my case but it was worse after 5 weeks) My surgeon said no walking around..zero..except if shes outdoor potty trained (she isnt) and even then just small circles. She stood alot and turned around. I had to pad her crate bottom because yorkies like to jump/stand. I also had to lower the top roof (my husband designed a makeshift roof. It was really hard but today she has graduated out of the crate with 1 block walks a couple times a day and can now be in a small room (I have a 4 ft by 10 foot screened area she walks around in, but that just started yesterday) Her leg is totally functional and the surgeon was amazed even her ulna healed which he did not expect, but wont be able to run/play for another 3 months...ugh Im almost there..I remember thinking OMG I cant do this but it passes faster than you think...

04-10-2013, 05:29 AM	#25
kimp5 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Boston MA Posts: 890	Oh and mine shook going outside alot at the beginning but that wears off over time...just take him out a little at a time..in your arms

04-13-2013, 10:11 PM	#27
chestermama YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: washington Posts: 3,383 Blog Entries: 1	wishing him a speedy recovery as well, poor baby

04-14-2013, 12:11 AM	#28
ReesesPieces Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NI Posts: 14	Hi all. Quick update. Reese has now seen another vet who told us he has extremely soft bones. (Same story) He would be very confident his bones would not hold the equipment that would be needed and he did not feel it was his best option. There was a vetinary nurse there thaa had taken the same treatment plan on her puppy a few years ago and it had all worked out great. The vet looked at the break and checked the healing and has said he is doing incredibly well so it looks like he may be all okay. We will have to be so careful of him his whole life because of his soft bones but he is THE most well behaved little boy ever. He loves to play but is so calm about it and is just so lovely. He is fine not running about and much prefers hugs and snuggles. He is also totally fine about being alone if we have to run errands etc. He sleeps all night and goes on his pads perfectly. We were also trying to learn sit while sitting on the soft bedding yesterday and even though it was only for about 3 minutes he was getting it so well. He will be such a clever boy! He is back to this vet on Wednesday to check it and will be going twice a week to have it looked at to make sure all is okay but he is totally confident all will heal great, he just won't be able to jump or run much ever. Thank you all so much for your help and advice. I actually live in the UK and so don't have the board certified thing exactly but went to our sort of equivalent. You all helped me soo much! I will continue to update!

04-14-2013, 03:06 AM	#29
kimp5 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Boston MA Posts: 890	Can we clone him?? He sounds amazing! Mine thinks running is the only option... Im so glad you dont have to go through the whole surgery thing, its truly hard. I didnt realize there is 10 weeks of rehab AFTER 8 weeks of crate restriction. Keep us updated!!