Bile Acid Test of Happy
 

Did the cet repeat thw bile test afain a week apart?

Its my understanding to get an acurate bile test two or three are done a week apart.

As far as the spay do the preop nlood work which covera more than clotting and check the spay neuter sticky also ask about the anethias used and personally I dont leave mu dogs overnight.

I find it ridiculous vets say they will want to monitor them over night when you then find out there is no staff at the office overnight, even so most cets do a spay neuter day and have several dogs staying, I prefer to monktor my furbaby myself and I also ensure the vet will be on call for an emergency.

Hope that helps.

I have little one who has been diagnosed with MVD. Her liver enzymes keep going up everytime we do bloodwork on her. You mention that you give low protein treats. May I ask what those are? I would love to find a treat that I could give my little Roxi. We have taken all treats away from her and right now all I feed her is the RC Hepatic dry and l/d canned. It's kind of hard to do training when you can't give her any sort of treats. Thanks.

I steam broccoli for my dog as a treat ... she loves it and it is the good protein. I also give her COCO Therapy Coconut Chips ... they are dried pieces of coconut. She loves them!! My little Cocoroni also has a liver shunt. I tried looking for dog treats for her but was unlucky. I see my vet next week again for another apointment so I am going to ask about other things too ... like bananas, apple, etc. I bought a Magic Bullet to make the pieces smaller. It works awesome!!

Treats..
 

Blue Buffalo wilderness <--lower protein

Taste Of The Wild roasted wetlands foul <--I used this

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Have you considered raw, BARF or model prey raw feeding?

We love the Stella and Chewy's freeze dried patties.


P.S. We LOVE Zuke's Mini Naturals!

I don't think it's recommended for dogs with compromised livers to be on a raw diet... do they even make a low-protein raw food? Lol!

We use Cheerios (plain) and Gerber's Graduates Puffs, and veggies for treats... Oh and Tink's on Hill's Prescription L/D

Tink's Bile Acid Test was over 300, pre and post.

The Hills L/D is lower protein, but higher in fat, as the fat is good for the liver. Does Happy have a weight problem that needs to be controlled by other than portion control? Hill's L/D is recommended by the University of Tennessee (leading researchers of Liver Shunt for the last 25-30 years).

Vital is a low protein raw premade.
With raw you have control over every ingredient.
You need to do a lot of research before considering raw, model prey would not be a good fit for your dog and his needs.
Raw is recomended for dogs especially with comprimised immune systems and organ functions.

Check out the raw.org etc but remember your dog has special needs a feneral raw diet isnt for him model prey is definately out. Switching to raw is a longgggg process otherwise you can make your dog ill by switching too fast and from the bacterial level change.

I beleive in raw and feed BARF but it is not as easy as feeding kibble it takes knowledge research constant observation and a keen sense of knowing what to look for.

The salmon Zukes are fatty have you tries the other flavors notice the levels on the back.

My dogs rarely would eat the peanut butter.

There are many people here very pleased with wellness I dont use or love it but it has been very reccomended here.

You might want to consider a consult with a vet nutrionist. You can find one at American College of Veterinary Nutrition
Also, this is an informative site about food written by a vet nutritionist:
Welcome to Pet Diets

:thumbup: Raw is contraindicated in dogs with compromised livers or immune systems.

Where? By who?

Raw is not safe for dogs with liver disease. Premade raw is very high in protein. It looks low in protein because of all the moisture. Mathematically converting to dry matter, it is much higher. Liver compromised dogs also have compromised immune systems. And ut isn't just low vs high protein, but type of protein.

Your Dog's Itchy Skin

Vet reccomededs raw for kidbey liver failure and weakened immune systems

VND is not the same as DVM or VMD. This person is a vet tech interested in natural management.

That's right, contraindicated.

Alright first for treats, veggies are a great treat, try all different kinds, my boys love carrots, beans, celery, sweet potatoe (you can get dried sweet potatoe), parsnips, et al. Most veggies are good, but NO ONIONs. Garlic is debatable, so I rarely add garlic to any homecooked treats I do.

My boys also love fruits. Blueberries, strawberries, bananas they just about die for. Apples I peel the skin off. Mangos, Papaya, pineapple et al.
No Raisins, currants, or figs. NO GRAPES. Watermelon is great too.

Neutering: I for sure would get a Full Blood Panel done, if the co-agulation test is something in addition to the Full Panel, then I would get that done too, particularly if your vet recommended one be done.

To neuter your pet or not, is a decision which should be made between you and your vet; taking into account "all" health concerns. Research for males in particular seem to indicate that there is no overweening health benefit to neutering.

If you decide or absolutely have to keep your boy intact, then I would ask the vet to guide me into what I should look for in terms of health issues with an un-neutered male. Testicular cancer although rare in un-neutered males does happen, so ask the vet what you should be looking for, as a responsible owner.

Some and I emphasize some, un-neutered males may mark more than neutered ones. And you would need to make sure your boy is NOT allowed to roam free off lead. Which I hope anyway you don't do.

The results of your BATS "might" be indicative of MVD. At this point for me I would be going to a specialist to see what they have to say, and to repeat the BATS, and then what ever other diagnostic tests are recommended.

Until I get a full assessment of the liver and or other critical organ functions I would not go with Raw. But once all test results are in, I would go with a canine nutritionist to establish a good raw diet.

u don't recommend raw food for a dog w/liver issues...it's like telling an overweight person to eat more chocolates

stella & chewy's also has a very high fat content

No home made or raw
 

Ultrasound was done..!
 

It is really variable by specialist. Some don't even believe in low protein for mild, asymptomatic MVD.

The foods you listed are not made for liver disease, so the types of protein may not be best for the liver. Some do use the NB Veg. It really is a matter of seeing what the specialist wants. L/D is a good food but high in fat.

Milk Thistle
 

I found an article on Milk Thistle - http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ml#post3992438

My question is whether we can put Happy on Milk Thistle or keep him on Denosyl tablets? Feeding tablets is a challenge for us :(

Check out Marin. It's milk thistle for dogs. It's very palatable, and my dog always readily ate it. Be careful with liquid milk thistles as they often times have a lot of alcohol in them. Denamarin is a combo of Marin and denosyl. I don't use them with my dog unless she flares up with a liver infection.

My dog Daisy has MVD. She ate Hill's L/D canned for a while and did ok. RC Hepatic made her sick. The other food you might consider is Purina HA - my dog did ok on that as well and it's low in fat. She mostly eats home cooked food. Her protein is at around 16% but as Ellie May said that depends on the specialist and the dog. My dog cannot eat meat of any kind nor fish of any kind. She can eat eggs and vegetarian sources of protein only.

Your specialist should be able to advise you about food or else just ask your vet. Personally, I wouldn't feed any of the foods you listed.

Vital is 11%a and 13%that crude in the higheat proteins.

Go with whatever you feel confident in.
The link I posted on raw was the first in a google search.
In all honesty if your dog is in a critical state making drastic changes isnt the best idea IMO.
There are other low protein diet specialty foods out there (kibble and homecook)
Its more important to get tge veterinary nutricianists content recomendations and choose a food from that.

I bet my dogs lives on raw but if it isnt in you r dogs best interest or someyhing you can put the effort of finances research etc I'll be the first to tell you to go another route.

For what its worth I'd go with Innova as I have fed it before but many here claim sucess with wellness something I've never fed.

Otger than that goodluck and anything you cgoose is going to require trial and research.

That is a very sweeping assumption.

1. What was fed? Exact amounts, foods, and sources should be cited in addition to length of time fed.

2. What were the issues that each dog was trying to overcome? Age, weight, breed, test results, patient history, etc.

3. Where are the studies substantiating this?

I respectfully would state that each owner should make their own decision based upon what they are comfortable with. Unless a boarded vet nutritionist with years of experience feeding PMR attempted to convince me otherwise, I would be a very difficult client to advise.

Well good thing you don't have a liver compromised dog then. Walk a mile my friend and you'd be surprised at what you'd do.

Obviously, I respect your experience and I feel comfortable stating that you would go to ends of the earth for your pets, however, that is unrelated to my post. To the OP, clearly you should weigh 107barney's advice as more credible than mine, but I am in no way stating what diet is acceptable. I am simply seeking further information.