Specialist for Bladder issues

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by 107barney

Further to my comments, OSU seems to allow owners to make an appointment directly. Just tell your vet you want a copy of the record and make the appt yourself. What audacity to demand you do tests with him "first" before he will give you a referral!!! Is he going to pay for all your new bedding while you wait around for him to grace you with his referral?
I find this outrageous.

Internal Medicine | College of Veterinary Medicine

Oh, I agree...I would be livid. If I were to ask my vet for a referral, there would be no discussion....she would simply honor my wishes and make the referral.

Pay for the bedding...AND the testing!

[Ringo1]

Well, I kind of wondered about the necessity of all those tests prior to seeing the specialist. Here's the things guys - I think he's afriad.

I mean - he IS the one that did the surgery and she didn't have this problem until AFTER the surgery. I truly think he trying to make sure he's covered all the bases before someone else is looking at his work.

Is that crazy for me to think that? I've handled a lot of MedMal cases in my life and I know CYA when I see it. That said I realize human medicine and Vet medicine are not the same.

But I got the impression from the OSU website that referrals were necessary; I'll check your link.

Bottom line - she's going on Sunday for the tests that he 'suggested' unless I cancel. I'll see if I can get someone at OSU today.

I mean - if MY GP can't fix the problem he refers - no questions asked. As I write; I'm thinking it should work the same with the Vet.

[ladyjane]

I don't think I would do any more tests with this vet. If it took you asking for a referral for him to suggest further testing, I am thinking you might want to run the other way.
You are right....if they cannot fix it, they should refer out. Period! I think you have given him ample time and opportunity to help with this problem.

Back in November my George had a dental...about 10 days later his salivary gland was leaking and ended up having to be removed. I suspected something must have happened during the dental..... my vet's response was that IF it did happen she was very sorry....she never once ignored it or put me off. She made the referral to Texas A&M because he needed surgery to repair it. I will never know how it happened and I don't dwell on it because I am very aware of the fact that things happen ... coupled with the fact that I have been going to her since 2001 and have had too many dentals on yorkies to count and there has never been an issue.

Anyway.............yes, I would call OSU and then make your decision. They are going to want to do testing there and sometimes the xrays that general vets do are just not enough or what they need. You could be tossing money to the wind.

I am so sorry you are going through this....stuff like this is extremely frustrating.

[Ringo1]

I called the OSU referral secretary and she said I could make my own appointment.

I asked her about all the testing my Vet wanted to do and she said - NO. Let the specialist decide. You've been dealing with this for how many months; he can't fix it and now let's let the specialist have a chance.

So - thank you! I'm calling to cancel the $300 in tests from her regular Vet and ask that he fax over her records this coming week

Appt - Tuesday the 19th is the first I could get.

Fingers crossed.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Ringo1

I called the OSU referral secretary and she said I could make my own appointment.

I asked her about all the testing my Vet wanted to do and she said - NO. Let the specialist decide. You've been dealing with this for how many months; he can't fix it and now let's let the specialist have a chance.

So - thank you! I'm calling to cancel the $300 in tests from her regular Vet and ask that he fax over her records this coming week

Appt - Tuesday the 19th is the first I could get.

Fingers crossed.

Excellent! I am sure the specialist will get to the bottom of it all.

Now, in the meantime, put diapers on her and a piddle pad under her on the bed! That is what I do with Gabby....although she often gets off of the pad during the night. Trust me, I sympathize and can relate on the bedding issue.

[Ellie May]

Yup, could be a cya move.
Best to just move on to the IMS.

My dog just had a bladder u/s by a general vet. I knew he may not see everything an IMS woud, but figured what the heck. We might get a dx and avoid the specialty hospital. Not a fan of that place... He did see some abnormalities that he had never seen before, but could not dx it. So he sent us to the IMS...and the u/s that he did was free bc of no dx. If he really wants to play this retest game, I'd tell him he s welcome to do so...at no charge to you.

BTW, Ry's IMS wants the next urinalysis to be a double...samples taken cysto and free catch sent out at same time. This would help r/o granulomatous urethritis. Definitely not saying this is your girl's problem, but it is just one example of why repeating a regular u/a before seeing the IMS would have been a waste of money.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Ringo1

I called the OSU referral secretary and she said I could make my own appointment.

I asked her about all the testing my Vet wanted to do and she said - NO. Let the specialist decide. You've been dealing with this for how many months; he can't fix it and now let's let the specialist have a chance.

So - thank you! I'm calling to cancel the $300 in tests from her regular Vet and ask that he fax over her records this coming week

Appt - Tuesday the 19th is the first I could get.

Fingers crossed.

So happy to hear that. Vs a Vs the bedding. It is hard; what I did was a number of things. 1) covered my bed in the daytime with a blue outdoor tarp. 2) if you can't crate or xpen at night. Then take that tarp hopefully it is still clean, and cover it with a cotton light weight large towel at end of bed. 3) Place his bed on towel which has the blue tarp underneath it.

I have a large laundry sink. Then I'd soak towels, sheets if needed if 50/50 white vinegar water cold soak. Overnight. Then I take and saturate an enzaymatic cleaner all over the stain (s). Then I place in washing machine and let soak in cool sudsy water for 2 hrs. Or heck half the day if you want. Then wash. Then I hang out to dry to see if I have gotten all stains out, and for my own nose smell.

But when things were really bad, I did have to finally give up on my down comforter and buy a new one.

So glad, that you are on the road to getting some answers!

[107barney]

Originally Posted by Ringo1

I called the OSU referral secretary and she said I could make my own appointment.

I asked her about all the testing my Vet wanted to do and she said - NO. Let the specialist decide. You've been dealing with this for how many months; he can't fix it and now let's let the specialist have a chance.

So - thank you! I'm calling to cancel the $300 in tests from her regular Vet and ask that he fax over her records this coming week

Appt - Tuesday the 19th is the first I could get.

Fingers crossed.

Great! I'm sure you'll be very happy to finally get some answers.

[yorkieusa]

Keeping our fingers and paws crossed here. Good luck on the 19th.

[kjc]

Keeping Lucy and you in my prayers....

[Ringo1]

So my vet called me on Monday afternoon to 'clear up any misunderstanding."

According to him - he was receiving calls from the specialist office wanting the test results for the tests that we were supposed to do on Sunday.

He was not happy. I went through with him my conversation with the specialist office and how they recommended they do their own tests. He called the referral secretary and she told him that the calls were recorded so he could check?

What is this? I asked him if he listened to a recording of the call - because I see this as a HUGE invasion of my privacy - despite the disclaimer that all calls will be recorded . . . . I do not want my vet listening to a recording of MY call simply because I made my own referral and cancelled tests at his office.

I may well be changing Vets after all this.

No new info - just wanted to vent that I recieved a very odd call from my regular vet.

[107barney]

Are you kidding me!!! This guy has problems. Run....run......run!!

[107barney]

How dare he call them ! You have a right to take your business wherever you damn well please! My vet would never do something like this, and trust me I have been all over two states with my dogs. Wow. just wow. I am almost speechless.

[ladyjane]

This guy is a KOOK! I have never heard of such a thing. Unprofessional is an understatement.

You should tell him that you are entering his name in the YT contest for the most unprofessional vet experience; and that you are confident he will take first place!

Trust me, that place is NOT calling him looking for those test results. They don't do
that....they work with what they get....and do whatever tests that they need. He
is, I am quite certain, lying to you.

You are thinking about changing vets?? I don't think there is a question...you need to do what Cathy said...RUN. Don't let this man push you around like this! Even IF you said something about him to that other place, so WHAT? He clearly was not handling it well that you are getting a second opinion...one has to wonder what his fear is. If he is THAT insecure, you don't want him touching your pups. You only want vets that are confident about their abilities....clearly he is not. If one of my pups had the issues yours has, my vet would have sent me to a specialist...I would not have to ask her for a referral!

[kjc]

OMGoodness! I'm sorry but your vet sounds a bit paranoid to me. And like he could have/should have been doing something more all along to help little Lucy... Now he's trying to CHB... I wouldn't be looking back....

PS: Worked in the field a long time... never heard of phone calls being recorded... except when you leave a voicemail message... had to laugh when I read that one...