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107barney 12-17-2011 06:01 PM
I have wanted cry all day since you told me about this. I just have no words, but know that my heart is breaking for you.

silverjoy 12-17-2011 06:19 PM
Praying for Ellie.

Sandysbabies 12-17-2011 06:20 PM
I am so sorry about little Ellie. Just prayed for her and prayed it is just a sprain maybe like you said from a jump or something. Let us know as soon as you find out. I know you must be a nervious wreck. Just try to have faith that she is going to be okay.

yorkieusa 12-17-2011 06:39 PM
I suppose it can't be dissolved, either, since it can't be split?

Lovetodream88 12-17-2011 06:39 PM
Praying for Ellie and you.

sugarpig 12-17-2011 06:47 PM
Sending healing prayers to Ellie Mae!

Bitsy 12-17-2011 06:53 PM
Sending prayers for sweet Ellie.

TxVicki 12-17-2011 06:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3762351)
Thanks, Brit. We are best buds. I'm trying to stay strong which..isn't working. Just trying to find a neuro that I want her to see. I dunno anymore. I just want her to be better.
Prayers going to Ellie. Is there any way you could take her Michigan State University to their College of Veterinary Medicine??

Ellie May 12-17-2011 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TxVicki (Post 3762619)
Prayers going to Ellie. Is there any way you could take her Michigan State University to their College of Veterinary Medicine??
Unfortunately, MSU does not have a neurologist on staff.
There are three board certified neurologists in Michigan, two of which my vet would be ok with. We have another one who is supposed to be ok, but isn't board certified. Northern Ohio may be doable. At this point, we're just not convinced that we are going to be much farther ahead with a neuro. Might have to do an emergency consult tomorrow though.

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I'd love to be able to dissolve it, but it's a capsule, so I don't think that's allowed. She won't even take water from a dropper right now, so I doubt she would eat/drink it anyway. I'm going to see if her vet has any ideas if the first attempt doesn't go well.

yorkieusa 12-17-2011 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3762533)
She is the same as she was a few hours ago. Just drugged up. At least it has taken some of the pain away.

No idea how to get pills down her throat tonight. Gabapentin is huge and can't be split. I'm not even sure she will swallow it at all.
According to this, and if I'm reading it correctly, a liquid form can be made at a pharmacy that does compounding.

CAUTION: The commercially available human liquid product contains xylitol which can be toxic to dogs. It is possible to have a special formulation made at a pharmacy that does drug compounding so that it does not contain xylitol.

IVDD Drugs and Side Effects

gidget529 12-17-2011 07:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3762626)
Unfortunately, MSU does not have a neurologist on staff.
There are three board certified neurologists in Michigan, two of which my vet would be ok with. We have another one who is supposed to be ok, but isn't board certified. Northern Ohio may be doable. At this point, we're just not convinced that we are going to be much farther ahead with a neuro. Might have to do an emergency consult tomorrow though.

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I'd love to be able to dissolve it, but it's a capsule, so I don't think that's allowed. She won't even take water from a dropper right now, so I doubt she would eat/drink it anyway. I'm going to see if her vet has any ideas if the first attempt doesn't go well.
Can she be admitted and placed on IV tonight if that becomes necessary? (Had to come check and see how you are doing - worried.)

Thor Kent 12-17-2011 07:53 PM
I am sorry that you and your baby are suffering so. I pray that all turns out well. Stay strong for her she needs you now. Lots of prayers going your way.

Ellie May 12-17-2011 07:55 PM
I'll have to see if there is a compounding pharmacy open tomorrow if I can't get this pill down her.

Yes, there are ERs where she could be admitted or I can just get her vet out of bed. Could call the neuro in right now, but we aren't doing surgery, so I'm not quite sure if there would be a point to that. She is moving. Doesn't seem to be dehydrated. Doesn't want to stand, but is soooooo drugged up. Exactly how she acted post-spay with this drug. Within a few hours I think we'll know more. We're doing what her vet thinks is a fair option right now and just hoping it turns out ok.

BabyGirl Rosie 12-17-2011 08:08 PM
I am so sorry. My heart is breaking for you. Praying that Ellie will recover quickly. Hugs to you and her. :(

kjc 12-17-2011 08:09 PM
Just seeing this now... OMGosh... sending prayers and healing thoughts and energy for Ellie, and hugs and prayers for strength for you.


I am sorry, but giving oral meds to dogs with neck injuries makes me crazy... wonder if your vet would do an IV port and give you injectable meds?

ladyjane 12-17-2011 08:20 PM
Crystal, you don't even know what this is. Personally, I think you need to go to the neuro to at least find out. If your vet likes two of the three, I would be going to one of them to at least get an opinion. A blanket statement saying you are not doing surgery...I am not sure where that is coming from. You don't even have a diagnosis nor do you know if/what surgery would be recommended. Maybe it is something simple? Maybe there is an option? I will keep your baby in my thoughts and prayers and also you.

ladyjane 12-17-2011 08:22 PM
Agree with KJC .. not sure how you could possible give a pill to her with her neck in that kind of discomfort. :( Surely there are other options for meds for her.

Anaic 12-17-2011 09:22 PM
Were there any X-rays done?

How old is she?

Gabapentin can be compounded for Shelby is 4 lbs dont remember dosage, its usually one pharmacy in area that can do it overnite, Ultram tiny pill amt 1/4 tablet of 25 mg given with just a bit of soft canned Science AD, we fed through a syringe that helped. Steroids Prednisone reduce inflammation, and pepcid-nexium to reduce her Hydrocephalus, but also to protect her stomach.

Shelby innocently slipped off the couch went into seizure quad paralysis, at ER we had xrays confirm AAI- Atlanto Axial Instability.

I dont know your girl just going on some symptoms here, but from the bottom of my heart see a neurologist, we are in upper Ohio, we used Metropolitan Animal Hosp their neuro dept with Dr Todd Axlund you can see his credential, published, teaches, he was our savior.

Please let me know if there is any thing else I could help you with?

Anaic 12-17-2011 09:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anaic (Post 3762720)
Were there any X-rays done?

How old is she?

Gabapentin can be compounded for Shelby is 4 lbs dont remember dosage, its usually one pharmacy in area that can do it overnite, Ultram tiny pill amt 1/4 tablet of 25 mg given with just a bit of soft canned Science AD, we fed through a syringe that helped. Steroids Prednisone reduce inflammation, and pepcid-nexium to reduce her Hydrocephalus, but also to protect her stomach.

Shelby innocently slipped off the couch went into seizure quad paralysis, at ER we had xrays confirm AAI- Atlanto Axial Instability.

I dont know your girl just going on some symptoms here, but from the bottom of my heart see a neurologist, we are in upper Ohio, we used Metropolitan Animal Hosp their neuro dept with Dr Todd Axlund you can see his credential, published, teaches, he was our savior.

Please let me know if there is any thing else I could help you with?

Never mind I see by your post back in April/May this is a on going issue with her? Lumbar/sacrum area, and she has been on Tramadol for treatment. I see she is older also? couldnt gage the age, but I believe she would benefit from a consult with a neurologist.

Maximo 12-17-2011 10:12 PM
Praying for good news tomorrow.

LuvTaycieGirl 12-17-2011 10:44 PM
Crystal, I am so sorry! Prayers for you and your sweet girl. My heart breaks for you.

Roxy 87 12-17-2011 10:46 PM
Sending prayers for your Ellie.

yorkiegirl2 12-17-2011 11:14 PM
Poor baby !!
I hope they can figure out what is going on and she is on the mend soon.

Lisa and Pic 12-18-2011 03:38 AM
Prayers for you both and I am so very sorry.

megansmomma 12-18-2011 05:06 AM
Crystal, I hope you are able to find some answers as to the exact cause of her pain. I feel so bad that she is not able to find relief from her pain as well. I'll be sure to check back to see how things are going.

gidget529 12-18-2011 06:13 AM
Just checking in this morning. I'm sure you didn't get much rest last night. Hoping both of you are ok.

ladyjane 12-18-2011 06:20 AM
Hoping today is a brighter one for Ellie and Crystal.

107barney 12-18-2011 07:10 AM
Positive Update for Ellie May
 
Crystal told me that Ellie May is improved this morning. She even guarded her food from Ry. I'm sure Crystal will be by later to update in more detail.

ladyjane 12-18-2011 07:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3762940)
Crystal told me that Ellie May is improved this morning. She even guarded her food from Ry. I'm sure Crystal will be by later to update in more detail.
Good news! Thanks for updating. :)

BabyGirl Rosie 12-18-2011 07:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 3762940)
Crystal told me that Ellie May is improved this morning. She even guarded her food from Ry. I'm sure Crystal will be by later to update in more detail.
That is great! So glad to hear!!


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